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| Mr. Scram:
--- Quote from: Bud on October 04, 2020, 05:35:31 pm ---Fck the platform. I remember times when eBay fees were only 1 or 2 percent. Techinically nothing changed since then except for bureaucracy at eBay. It was WEB site before and it is still WEB site now. Why we pay way more now? --- End quote --- Because they bought out the competition. |
| SilverSolder:
It's the "drug dealer business model", get people hooked, then... bang. Remember when Youtube had no advertisements? .... |
| rsjsouza:
--- Quote from: nctnico on October 04, 2020, 05:48:22 pm --- --- Quote from: Bud on October 04, 2020, 05:35:31 pm ---Fck the platform. I remember times when eBay fees were only 1 or 2 percent. Techinically nothing changed since then except for bureaucracy at eBay. It was WEB site before and it is still WEB site now. Why we pay way more now? --- End quote --- Because back then Ebay wasn't operating in a sustainable way. At some point there has to be a healthy return on investment. It goes like this will all start-ups. Sell at a low price to gain market share and then raise the prices to recoup the investments & start turning a profit. Nothing wrong with that for as long as people are willing to pay for the service. --- End quote --- Precisely. So many other outlets started to charge for access to their portals (news outlets, for example) and people complain but forget they need to pay the bills. --- Quote from: SilverSolder on October 04, 2020, 06:07:16 pm --- --- Quote from: nctnico on October 04, 2020, 03:00:06 pm --- --- Quote from: Simon on October 03, 2020, 09:02:44 pm ---At the end of the day if you are doing regular business you self insure to a degree. Again this is why I mark up eaby stuff, ebay is far more likely to yield problems than direct sales from my site so the ebay cohort get to pay the ebay share of self insurance. --- End quote --- That is the way to do it. When I sell something on Ebay I price it with the Ebay & Paypal fees added to the price. --- End quote --- Exactly, and as a buyer, I accept paying the higher price for something that I couldn't find without putting in even more effort than making the $ needed to pay those fees. --- End quote --- Yes, but the common man is usually unaware of this. In another group there was someone complaining that a convenience store at a gas station was charging too much for a product that could be found at a nearby supermarket for less - I told them the reason is in the name: "convenience", but my explanation was received with a cold stare. |
| SilverSolder:
--- Quote from: rsjsouza on October 05, 2020, 09:50:39 pm ---[...] --- Quote from: SilverSolder on October 04, 2020, 06:07:16 pm ---[...] as a buyer, I accept paying the higher price for something that I couldn't find without putting in even more effort than making the $ needed to pay those fees. --- End quote --- Yes, but the common man is usually unaware of this. In another group there was someone complaining that a convenience store at a gas station was charging too much for a product that could be found at a nearby supermarket for less - I told them the reason is in the name: "convenience", but my explanation was received with a cold stare. --- End quote --- In my working life, I have dealt with professional buyers many times. They are a pleasure to deal with: you explain what your costs are, you are open about the profit margin you expect to make in order for this to be worthwhile to your company. In turn they are open about what the price has to be in order for their business to make sense. You do some toing and froing, and then the deal is done - afterwards, they don't whine and complain - everyone is happy, because a deal was hammered out that works for everyone. If it was not possible to reach a deal - both sides walk away friends, until the next opportunity. It is the "amateur buyers" that are the problem: no understanding of structural costs, or the need for margins, and in many case no understanding of the product or even their own needs. They will make poor decisions, enter into poor agreements, and then they will cry and whine like babies, blaming everone but themselves afterwards. Come to think of it, this sounds like a lot of voters! :D |
| james_s:
--- Quote from: rsjsouza on October 05, 2020, 09:50:39 pm ---Precisely. So many other outlets started to charge for access to their portals (news outlets, for example) and people complain but forget they need to pay the bills. --- End quote --- They made the mistake of making it free early on, offering all of their content and then everybody including me got in the mentality of expecting news to be free. Now when I find a news site that has a paywall I leave and go elsewhere to find the same news. I realize they have to pay the bills but I'm not sure how they can put that one back in the bag. |
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