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Would you watch EEVBlog on anything other than Youtube?
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Re: Would you watch EEVBlog on anything other than Youtube?
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2018, 02:21:56 am »
Yes. I care about the content, not the platform. If someone decided that they wanted to publish content that I liked on some other platform instead of YouTube, I'd watch it on that other platform (assuming, of course, that it's watchable ;)).
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Re: Would you watch EEVBlog on anything other than Youtube?
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2018, 06:31:18 am »
I just tried the link.  The picture is really fuzzy.  When dave does online schematic/pcb screenshots, I cant read any of the text.
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Re: Would you watch EEVBlog on anything other than Youtube?
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2018, 06:33:40 am »
I would very much like to give Youtube the flick but even the site linked above turned out a bit shit. Probably not the sites fault as such but it would not play a video and threw up a "Sorry, the browser you are using is not currently supported, Disqus actively supports the following browsers : Firefox - Chrome - Internet Explorer 11+ - Safari"

I generally view most videos from this stupid dumb as fuck LG television which uses a thinned down version of Chrome, the thing is only a few years old and LG no longer provide firmware upgrades or support for these models and expect everyone to run out and purchase a new one, well fuck you LG. You won't ever see my money again and I'm pretty sure we have consumer laws down here that specifically address this particular lack of support issue. I might do another letter and remind them how disgruntled I still am.
 

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Re: Would you watch EEVBlog on anything other than Youtube?
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2018, 07:10:49 am »
I just tried the link.  The picture is really fuzzy.  When dave does online schematic/pcb screenshots, I cant read any of the text.
Yes, the resolution is certainly not FullHD.
Looks about the same as 360p on Youtube. Absolutely unacceptable.  :--
 

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Re: Would you watch EEVBlog on anything other than Youtube?
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2018, 09:38:48 pm »
I generally view most videos from this stupid dumb as fuck LG television which uses a thinned down version of Chrome, the thing is only a few years old and LG no longer provide firmware upgrades or support for these models and expect everyone to run out and purchase a new one, well fuck you LG. You won't ever see my money again and I'm pretty sure we have consumer laws down here that specifically address this particular lack of support issue. I might do another letter and remind them how disgruntled I still am.

Heh, yeah, "smart TV" is an oxymoron.
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Re: Would you watch EEVBlog on anything other than Youtube?
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2018, 09:39:31 pm »
I just tried the link.  The picture is really fuzzy.  When dave does online schematic/pcb screenshots, I cant read any of the text.
Yes, the resolution is certainly not FullHD.
Looks about the same as 360p on Youtube. Absolutely unacceptable.  :--

That's the thing. To compete with YouTube takes big bucks.
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Re: Would you watch EEVBlog on anything other than Youtube?
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2018, 01:33:20 am »
I just tried the link.  The picture is really fuzzy.  When dave does online schematic/pcb screenshots, I cant read any of the text.
Yes, the resolution is certainly not FullHD.
Looks about the same as 360p on Youtube. Absolutely unacceptable.  :--

That's the thing. To compete with YouTube takes big bucks.
Bittorrent. It not only handles 4K with ease but also is ready for 8K 3D HDR when it eventually gets affordable for the average consumer.
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Re: Would you watch EEVBlog on anything other than Youtube?
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2018, 02:43:39 am »
Yes. I care about the content, not the platform. If someone decided that they wanted to publish content that I liked on some other platform instead of YouTube, I'd watch it on that other platform (assuming, of course, that it's watchable ;)).

Absolutely agree with you.
 

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Re: Would you watch EEVBlog on anything other than Youtube?
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2018, 01:09:24 pm »
"Would you watch Dave's videos much longer, If they are only available on Youtube ?"
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Re: Would you watch EEVBlog on anything other than Youtube?
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2018, 07:45:48 pm »
"Would you watch Dave's videos much longer, If they are only available on Youtube ?"

Do you mean will I continue to watch Dave's videos or boycott them if they're only available on YouTube?

For now, I'll continue to watch even if they're only on YouTube. Although Google's and advertisers' shenanigans are annoying, they haven't gotten to the point of driving me away...yet.
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Re: Would you watch EEVBlog on anything other than Youtube?
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2018, 10:59:47 pm »
Of course I'm going to continue watching YouTube and I doubt that I am going to hunt around for GeeWhizVideo.com.

In the special case of EEVblog, if the videos on the home page are linked somewhere else and if that somewhere else shovels out high quality video then I guess I'll play along.

EEVblog isn't the only YouTube provider I visit.  I simply can't get away from YouTube as long as they are the only credible provider and none of the 'me too!' providers have the money it takes to compete with YouTube.
 

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Re: Would you watch EEVBlog on anything other than Youtube?
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2018, 11:10:24 pm »
I concur. My subscription list has grown surprisingly long. It's amazing how many electronics-related channels exist on YouTube (as ez24's project illustrates).
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Re: Would you watch EEVBlog on anything other than Youtube?
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2018, 11:23:42 pm »
I saw Dave tweet today about Bitshute. I'm so used to just going to Youtube it has surprised me how hard it is to change.
I think there is a critical mass aspect to it as well. Once I am there there isn't any of the other stuff I watch available.

Yep, and therein lies the critical mass problem.
And IMO Bitchute is probably the best alternative at present.

It doesn't matter how good a platform is technically, if it doesn't have other stuff you want to see then most will not bother to use it long term.
Also it doesn't even matter how popular a site is if it doesn't have the right mechanisms, like Facebook, it won't win as the dominate video platform.
 

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Re: Would you watch EEVBlog on anything other than Youtube?
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2018, 12:31:21 am »
And IMO Bitchute is probably the best alternative at present.
First look at the Bitchute link Wilfed put up and it's great, more should use it !

Because I now have a reasonably fast connection I particularly liked the way a vid loaded fully so if I don't get back to watch it for a a day or so it doesn't want to start all over again like YT.  ::)  :--
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Re: Would you watch EEVBlog on anything other than Youtube?
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2018, 12:37:13 am »
I do not give crap about facebook or youtube, but i do about video quality. Give me a link to whatever as long as it is smooth sream and i will watch. I also do not give crap about any drive-by garbage that the platform tries to push with videos. Therefore no particular platfotm matters to me, it all just about quality and content.
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Re: Would you watch EEVBlog on anything other than Youtube?
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2018, 12:50:30 am »
I would, though I do admit Youtube is my goto for general video viewing and searching, so I'd have to remember to check the other platform too for new videos.   
 

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Re: Would you watch EEVBlog on anything other than Youtube?
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2018, 01:51:22 am »
I see where Bitchute chose to caption the title in RED.  This isn't entirely useful to people who suffer from red-green color deficiency.  In other words, I can't read them!

Red is a particularly bad color to use.  I was messing around with some python package updates today and I simply couldn't read the error message.  I knew something went sideways because there was a large message but I have no idea what.


 

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Re: Would you watch EEVBlog on anything other than Youtube?
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2018, 03:09:27 am »
There are apparently a lot of potential A/V hosting services out there e.g.:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_video_hosting_services

I don't know how competive such cloud providers like Amazon/AWS/whatever they call their best option or Microsoft/Azure/whatever they call theirs are but they may be worth a look too.  Seems like a long while ago MS was really pushing people to use Azure-whatever for video distribution though I'm not sure if that was only with Silverlight (isn't that dead now?) or in general or what. 

Personally I'll actively AVOID youtube, facebook, and the usual sorts of "we dominate the internet" sites.  Other threads here have discussed how anti-consumer and anti-producer YouTube/Google/Alphabet is / has become, and that's pretty much par for the course with "we're big enough that we don't have to care about quality / service / responsiveness / fairness / etc, so we won't" companies. 

Near monopolies are bad for the internet and in general.  Power corrupts, etc. etc.  And there are lots of commercial interests (and I'll lump YouTube, Facebook et. al. in here as well as the "traditional media / broadcast / cable / ISP companies") which would LOVE to turn the internet into a "walled garden" and nothing more than a "broadcast medium" controlled by big corporate gate keepers that control the "microphone and the camera" for the world.

Decentralization is best and we have to appreciate having OTHER OPTIONS than the "big ones" because otherwise one day soon there won't be options.  There won't be a practical ability to self publish, self host, etc. etc.  That is already slipping away or gone with email and web and telephony / conferencing / IM type servers.

So speaking for my self my #1 respect goes to whoever basically arranges self-hosting or at least something small scale and not mainstream like having one's own VPS or colocated server or whatever.

On equal or better footing with that would be making use of any "library" / "media freedom" oriented systems to try to publish things in ways designed to ensure their open access to whatever content they've created.  e.g. wikimedia, internet archive, things like MIT does with open courseware, bit-torrent, distributed mirror sites like linux distributions use, whatever combination applies.  Using multiple distribution technologies / servers / techniques beats having a single one that WILL one day disappear.  If content is worth creating and mass sharing then it's probably worth preserving, too, as the intellectual / cultural / knowledge heritage of the world, the era, etc.  It is a sad thing when useful / interesting content disappears forever just because some cruddy "service" like PhotoBucket, AOL, Yahoo, CompuServe, MySpace or YouTube or whoever goes out of business and poof thousands or millions of person-years of content disappears because there is no alternative, there is no backup, etc. 

PhotoBucket should be contemporary warning there, as should YouTubes "disappearing" / censored videos / sites etc.

And then there's always the risk of a walled garden or loss due to incompatibility and obsolescence.  What happened to all the FLASH content out there that is basically gone now that FLASH is more or less dead?  What about all the platforms that couldn't even view FLASH back when or presently?  AIR?  JAVA?  Silverlight?  Needs some DRM plugin that doesn't even work on all platforms today and will be gone entirely in 5 years?  etc. etc. 

We need to learn our lessons and use open protocols, open media formats, open services, not create or trust monopolies on small scales or large scales with our content as individuals or en masse with the future of the internet.

Net neutrality starts with the choices we make about what we do to publish / create / share / access content.

 
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Re: Would you watch EEVBlog on anything other than Youtube?
« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2018, 04:26:55 pm »
I view on YouTube, but mostly on my Apple TV.
 

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Re: Would you watch EEVBlog on anything other than Youtube?
« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2018, 11:23:13 pm »

With YouTube (owned by Google -big surprise) going the censorship rout, everybody needs an alternative video hosting service.
 

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Re: Would you watch EEVBlog on anything other than Youtube?
« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2018, 11:43:49 pm »
I'd watch Dave's content even if the only presentation technology he used was marionettes or hand shadow puppetry.

However, it is awfully convenient to watch via YouTube.  I like that it has the ability to play videos selected in a browser to smart devices (TVs) with a YouTube application built-in. 
 

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Re: Would you watch EEVBlog on anything other than Youtube?
« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2018, 02:27:31 pm »
Bittorrent. It not only handles 4K with ease but also is ready for 8K 3D HDR when it eventually gets affordable for the average consumer.

I almost always download the video from YouTube anyway because streaming just sucks.  Unfortunately YouTube blocks downloads above 720p unless I take special steps.  So if I cannot download the video or it is not 720p or better, I am not interested.  My preference would be downloading via bittorrent which is better than using a browser anyway but nobody supports that except piracy sites.
 
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Re: Would you watch EEVBlog on anything other than Youtube?
« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2018, 02:28:59 pm »
With YouTube (owned by Google -big surprise) going the censorship rout, everybody needs an alternative video hosting service.

They sure are.  And Google searches conveniently do not return results which identify where they are doing this.
 

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Re: Would you watch EEVBlog on anything other than Youtube?
« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2018, 01:08:33 am »
I almost always download the video from YouTube anyway because streaming just sucks.  Unfortunately YouTube blocks downloads above 720p unless I take special steps.  So if I cannot download the video or it is not 720p or better, I am not interested.  My preference would be downloading via bittorrent which is better than using a browser anyway but nobody supports that except piracy sites.
I use youtube-dl and it always downloads the highest quality available. (I do that largely so I can use mpv to upscale everything to 4K.) Maybe your version is out of date?
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