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| coppice:
--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on February 22, 2020, 05:01:19 pm --- --- Quote from: coppice on February 21, 2020, 05:11:30 pm ---Unless they are required to have at least one unusually robust flight attendant on each flight, I can't see that providing any improvement in safety. --- End quote --- Having a "robust" flight attendant in the sealed cockpit with a pilot focused on flying an aircraft doesn't sound like a risk in itself at all. --- End quote --- That's the thing with security. Its never binary. |
| Mr. Scram:
--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on February 22, 2020, 01:51:38 pm ---It has been suggested in the industry but the pilots pushed back as you'd expect and the airlines have the cost of training pilots so it's a bit of sticking point. --- End quote --- While pilots pose a risk their presence is also a huge improvement to safety. They're trained to the level they are not because they need to fly an airplane but because they need the skills and aptitude to quickly and effectively identify and mitigate potentially catastrophic issues. That's how they earn their keep and why they're not just bus drivers. Flying an aircraft can reliably be done by computers but the human flexibility is beyond computers for now and the foreseeable future. |
| Mr. Scram:
--- Quote from: coppice on February 22, 2020, 05:05:30 pm ---That's the thing with security. Its never binary. --- End quote --- Part of the issue is wanting to eliminate every risk there is. You need to make choices and guard against the likely or catastrophic scenarios while accepting the exceptions. That's why aircraft aren't fitted with some systems that may save lives. They would very rarely be used and the added complexity from both a technological and training point of view would introduce other risks. |
| McBryce:
--- Quote from: Theboel on February 22, 2020, 02:21:26 pm ---Hi, Sorry if its sound stupid. Any body have any idea how long black box and cockpit voice recorder can survive in sea water ? --- End quote --- The time limits often referred to are only the time that the becon signal is being transmitted. So as soon as the transmission stops they are more or less impossible to find in a situation like this. The box itself could survive years, even in deep saltwater. McBryce. |
| donotdespisethesnake:
--- Quote from: janoc on February 22, 2020, 04:06:13 pm ---Here is an actual airline captain explaining the level where these systems are today and what the issues are: On Boeing single-pilot system for airliners: --- End quote --- Airline pilot says we still need pilots... he would say that, wouldn't he? But yes, we still need pilots. Someone has to feed the dog ;) |
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