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WTF!!! (French Airforce FUBAR)
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Red Squirrel:
That's a big oops! lol.   I guess it's definitely a story you can tell people that not lot of people will be able to say they did.  "You accidentally what?!"

What happens when the pilot ejects too, are those planes designed to try to gracefully land/crash or does it just keep going in whatever direction it was going with zero control?  In most cases you'd pull that if the plane is already crashing though.
langwadt:

--- Quote from: Red Squirrel on April 14, 2020, 07:56:03 pm ---That's a big oops! lol.   I guess it's definitely a story you can tell people that not lot of people will be able to say they did.  "You accidentally what?!"

What happens when the pilot ejects too, are those planes designed to try to gracefully land/crash or does it just keep going in whatever direction it was going with zero control?  In most cases you'd pull that if the plane is already crashing though.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornfield_Bomber :)
m98:
This incident shows some serious procedural flaws. How could a passenger not wear his safety gear properly, not be strapped in properly, not be briefed on what to never touch in the cockpit and where he can safely hold on during the flight? What where they thinking? What was the pilot thinking? If they really lack all common sense on how to prepare an untrained passenger, they shouldn't be allowed to fly them.
sam[PS]:
I think the real problem is what this tourist was doing in a Jet.
Some people think because they have a high hierarchical position all is due to them. For me what this show is no sorry but no. He had nothing to do there. Jet aircraft are tools ment for highly trained professionals, and all the military procedure are made in this optics also. I can totally imagine why those highly skilled personnels where bored by this situation and kinda did it more loosely as they probably should. Because they should not be asked to amuse a stupid tourist just because he has money or hierarchical power. Of course the report won't mention that because it is primarily targeted at those kind of high hierarchical place dumbass. But to me the real fault is there. A similar situation but with a much more dramatic issue happened in US navy about ten years ago where a Nimitz class submarine hit a Japanese fishing boat destroying it and putting all it's crew in life jeopardy. The inquiry revealed that at the time of the collision the bar was held by an amiral's teenager son. Tourist here again !
Some should be taught that money can't buy competence and there is a reason if military personnels follow years of training to do this kinds of things. 

Just my 2cts...
paulca:

--- Quote from: jogri on April 10, 2020, 06:24:14 pm ---I think one of the worst moments for the pilot was getting out of his seat after he landed: If the ejector seat goes off while you're strapped in you are relatively safe, but it could be rather nasty if it goes off while you are removing your seat straps.

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Which is why a checklist item is the arm/disarm switch.  Usually the first thing to be disarmed on opening the canopy and the last thing to arm on closing it.

.. assuming the arm/disarm works.

The ground crew who greets you also have the safety pins, one for the seats included.
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