"One Hung Low" was initially a comical assembly of Chinese sounding syllables that when Anglicised made an indirect reference to one testicle hanging lower than the other. It is not in common usage in Australia but at least as far as I encounter it, it still means nothing more than that.
However on this forum it seems to have morphed into a not even veiled insult to the Chinese and all things Chinese made. I think its use-by date has passed. Whether or not it is a racial slur depends more on how it is received than spoken.
In the UK we have "rice boys", which is a racist term for east Asians.Any racism you may think is expressed may only be your perception.
Calling something crap is fine, it's just that there is no need to make it racist too.
You have to appreciate that it's not just being prudish for the sake of being a prude. It's not PC. It's about saying things that are harmful. When people say them they probably don't mean any harm, but they are doing it unintentionally.Words do not harm, they cannot bruise, maim cut or brake bones, among adults they are harmless.
As I pointed out, Dave is a textbook example. I like his videos and style for the most part, don't get me wrong, but this aspect is like a walking, taking cliché.
Got to love the Aussie sense of humor.:D
http://www.ziggy.com.au/funny%20graphics%2002.htm (http://www.ziggy.com.au/funny%20graphics%2002.htm)
Mist amateur radio operators in the US are acquainted with the term "Rice Box" it referred to gear made in Japan that was marginally engineered, and used cheap parts. such as pot metal screws (YES they exist).
Calling a spade a spade is not hate speech.
If it is Crap; call it what it is, shame them into making a better quality product; it worked for the Japanese.
Now the best made amateur radio gear comes from Japan, some from the US, the stuff made in China is a distant third place.
Enough with the Politically Correct crap already.
Neither is calling a texan a "redneck" or all americans "Obese"
I am not one for being always politically correct, but I don't have to have the subtlety of a blunt hammer to talk, converse or just communicate.
Quote from: AF6LJ on Today at 06:57:00 AM (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=53584.msg748382#msg748382)Mist amateur radio operators in the US are acquainted with the term "Rice Box" it referred to gear made in Japan that was marginally engineered, and used cheap parts. such as pot metal screws (YES they exist).
Calling a spade a spade is not hate speech.
If it is Crap; call it what it is, shame them into making a better quality product; it worked for the Japanese.
Now the best made amateur radio gear comes from Japan, some from the US, the stuff made in China is a distant third place.
Enough with the Politically Correct crap already.
I am sure it is a nice place, but the point I am trying to make is not everyone conforms to a stereotype.
Labelling people on the basis of age, race, ethnicity, geography, is at best juvenile fun.
Once I heard a word "rice cars", probably a racist calling for Japanese racing cars?
QuoteOnce I heard a word "rice cars", probably a racist calling for Japanese racing cars?
Well here on the west coast I've heard them called rice rockets, and it's a complement.
QuoteOnce I heard a word "rice cars", probably a racist calling for Japanese racing cars?
Well here on the west coast I've heard them called rice rockets, and it's a complement.
I never thought of that as being negative.QuoteOnce I heard a word "rice cars", probably a racist calling for Japanese racing cars?
Well here on the west coast I've heard them called rice rockets, and it's a complement.
Like I pointed out earlier;QuoteOnce I heard a word "rice cars", probably a racist calling for Japanese racing cars?
Well here on the west coast I've heard them called rice rockets, and it's a complement.
Around here 'rice boy' is a person that pimps his car for the *appearance* of performance, even if it actually makes the car slower. Compare this with a 'race boy' that modifies his car to actually go faster.
As for the quality of Chinese products, in most cases they are definitely of lower quality than similar let's say German or Japanese.
We should look at reality as is, no need to distort it with political agenda.
"Rice" is a reference to the stereotype that Japanese people live on rice. Historically it has been used as a racist insult.
That's not PC, is just plain racist.
Give China ten years and then look out.
That's not PC, is just plain racist.
Any racism you may think is expressed may only be your perception.
No, it's a historical fact.QuoteWords do not harm, they cannot bruise, maim cut or brake bones, among adults they are harmless.
No blacks
No dogs
No Irish
Harmless?QuoteI have to say this, and i mean it with kindness; what kind of life have you lived that has led to you being in a place where you are so intolerant of what people say?
What a bizarre question. If you saw someone being mugged, would you just ignore it because intervention would be intolerance of mugger culture?
I might as well ask why you are so intolerant of what I am saying. Why don't you want me to complain, why censor me? It makes no sense.
For fuck sake, no one's talking about mugging but words!QuoteI have to say this, and i mean it with kindness; what kind of life have you lived that has led to you being in a place where you are so intolerant of what people say?
What a bizarre question. If you saw someone being mugged, would you just ignore it because intervention would be intolerance of mugger culture?
I might as well ask why you are so intolerant of what I am saying. Why don't you want me to complain, why censor me? It makes no sense.
Any racism you may think is expressed may only be your perception.
No, it's a historical fact.QuoteWords do not harm, they cannot bruise, maim cut or brake bones, among adults they are harmless.
No blacks
No dogs
No Irish
Harmless?QuoteI have to say this, and i mean it with kindness; what kind of life have you lived that has led to you being in a place where you are so intolerant of what people say?
What a bizarre question. If you saw someone being mugged, would you just ignore it because intervention would be intolerance of mugger culture?
I might as well ask why you are so intolerant of what I am saying. Why don't you want me to complain, why censor me? It makes no sense.
And if that doesn't work out, I guess I'll spend the night banging on my Wang:
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/38/1b/75/381b75cb92d30e801cc36925695d80ef.jpg)
Personally, I love the fact that words and phrases have multiple meanings. If someone gets hung up on one meaning, and is offended by it, that is a deliberate choice on their part. And is not my problem.
When I was in College I played with an older Wang all the time. I had a ball..And if that doesn't work out, I guess I'll spend the night banging on my Wang:
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/38/1b/75/381b75cb92d30e801cc36925695d80ef.jpg)
Personally, I love the fact that words and phrases have multiple meanings. If someone gets hung up on one meaning, and is offended by it, that is a deliberate choice on their part. And is not my problem.
Nice Wang! I'd love to have a play with it. ;-)
Then later, hopefully eat a Bimbo:
I hope we are done...Awww
I'm going to the Zoo.
(http://www.luxury-thailand-travel.com/images/Phuket-Zoo.jpg)
Any racism you may think is expressed may only be your perception.
No, it's a historical fact.QuoteWords do not harm, they cannot bruise, maim cut or brake bones, among adults they are harmless.
No blacks
No dogs
No Irish
Harmless?QuoteI have to say this, and i mean it with kindness; what kind of life have you lived that has led to you being in a place where you are so intolerant of what people say?
What a bizarre question. If you saw someone being mugged, would you just ignore it because intervention would be intolerance of mugger culture?
I might as well ask why you are so intolerant of what I am saying. Why don't you want me to complain, why censor me? It makes no sense.
I'll address this and then I am done with you.
First;
I don't ignore people being mugged, I have been mugged myself more than once, and after the second time I empowered myself and sent the next three running. OH and the last one was stupid enough to have his girlfriend with him, he was going to beat up the ugly old woman to show her what kind of a man he was.
When I finally finished beating his face into the sidewalk; the only reason I stopped is because his girlfriend begged me to do so. He and his girlfriend didn't walk away they ran.
In answer to your second question.
I have little patience for those such as yourself who are intolerant of the language others use.
You think it empowers you, no it doesn't it shows a lack of respect for the basic freedom all of us were born with. In a free country this kind of disrespect for freedom of speech is shunned and even occasionally laughed at out loud.
Time to move on; there are more constructive things to discuss.
Perhaps you should meditate on why words effect you the way they do.
May Piece be with you..
You are now on my ignore lise.
When I was in College I played with an older Wang all the time. I had a ball..And if that doesn't work out, I guess I'll spend the night banging on my Wang:
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/38/1b/75/381b75cb92d30e801cc36925695d80ef.jpg)
Personally, I love the fact that words and phrases have multiple meanings. If someone gets hung up on one meaning, and is offended by it, that is a deliberate choice on their part. And is not my problem.
Nice Wang! I'd love to have a play with it. ;-)
I never thought of that as being negative.QuoteOnce I heard a word "rice cars", probably a racist calling for Japanese racing cars?
Well here on the west coast I've heard them called rice rockets, and it's a complement.
Then again I have always thought of it in relation to the term used for those Japnise motorcycles that had insane horsepower to weight ratio that would do 170MPH and above.
My grandfather owned a Crotch Rocket that could do 180MPH. It was made for the track but my uncle took it out on I-80 and almost messed his pants when the speedo climbed up to 160 in a heartbeat, He chickened out and came home...
In all seriousness my self esteem is fine. I am in decent shape for someone who is as old as I am, (old enough to be Dave's mother :) )Any racism you may think is expressed may only be your perception.
No, it's a historical fact.QuoteWords do not harm, they cannot bruise, maim cut or brake bones, among adults they are harmless.
No blacks
No dogs
No Irish
Harmless?QuoteI have to say this, and i mean it with kindness; what kind of life have you lived that has led to you being in a place where you are so intolerant of what people say?
What a bizarre question. If you saw someone being mugged, would you just ignore it because intervention would be intolerance of mugger culture?
I might as well ask why you are so intolerant of what I am saying. Why don't you want me to complain, why censor me? It makes no sense.
I'll address this and then I am done with you.
First;
I don't ignore people being mugged, I have been mugged myself more than once, and after the second time I empowered myself and sent the next three running. OH and the last one was stupid enough to have his girlfriend with him, he was going to beat up the ugly old woman to show her what kind of a man he was.
When I finally finished beating his face into the sidewalk; the only reason I stopped is because his girlfriend begged me to do so. He and his girlfriend didn't walk away they ran.
In answer to your second question.
I have little patience for those such as yourself who are intolerant of the language others use.
You think it empowers you, no it doesn't it shows a lack of respect for the basic freedom all of us were born with. In a free country this kind of disrespect for freedom of speech is shunned and even occasionally laughed at out loud.
Time to move on; there are more constructive things to discuss.
Perhaps you should meditate on why words effect you the way they do.
May Piece be with you..
You are now on my ignore lise.
WTF! Why do you call yourself ugly old woman? Please improve that self-esteem!
I'm sure you think yourself about being a lot uglier than you really are. I know it perfectly, it happened to me.
Never underestimate yourself, please. Fuck off those bastards that mine your motivation and destroy your mood! I'm working on it and it's difficult to me, but I'm moving forward at my own pace and weird way ;)
Never went to a privite school, the Old Wang was a Wang 2200 that shared a disk unit and a printer with several other old Wang 2200s. Cool machine all discreet TTL chips and it ran Wang Basic, each unit had it's own tape drive. Not bad for a machine out of 1974.When I was in College I played with an older Wang all the time. I had a ball..And if that doesn't work out, I guess I'll spend the night banging on my Wang:
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/38/1b/75/381b75cb92d30e801cc36925695d80ef.jpg)
Personally, I love the fact that words and phrases have multiple meanings. If someone gets hung up on one meaning, and is offended by it, that is a deliberate choice on their part. And is not my problem.
Nice Wang! I'd love to have a play with it. ;-)
Did you like old wangs in college and played with them? Were you studying at a catholic school?
Where's that ball come from and what happened to it?
You are making me very intrigued!
;)
I have friends who still ride, even around my age, I always worry a little; they have good judgment it's the idiot drivers doing stupid things that worry me. Just tell your son to not sell that bike to any of his friends, that way if the next owner does something stupid on it and has to pay the price he will be guilt free and still have all his friends.I never thought of that as being negative.QuoteOnce I heard a word "rice cars", probably a racist calling for Japanese racing cars?
Well here on the west coast I've heard them called rice rockets, and it's a complement.
Then again I have always thought of it in relation to the term used for those Japnise motorcycles that had insane horsepower to weight ratio that would do 170MPH and above.
My grandfather owned a Crotch Rocket that could do 180MPH. It was made for the track but my uncle took it out on I-80 and almost messed his pants when the speedo climbed up to 160 in a heartbeat, He chickened out and came home...
Sounds like my son. I helped him buy a new motorcycle-Kawasaki Ninja ZX-10R. When I helped him, I asked him to be smart about riding it, even though he has ridden for years and has owned sport bikes in the past. He confessed to me after about 6 months that he took it out onto I-4 to see what it could do, 165 MPH, still 4K RPM to redline and he said he backed it off and rode the speed limit home. I love it when my son learns his own lessons without help from me. :-+ By the way, his bike will exceed 200 MPH without doing any of the track mods available for it. Now that he is a newlywed (1 year next month) he is thinking about trading it for a cruiser to be kinder to his wife.
In all seriousness my self esteem is fine. I am in decent shape for someone who is as old as I am, (old enough to be Dave's mother :) )Any racism you may think is expressed may only be your perception.
No, it's a historical fact.QuoteWords do not harm, they cannot bruise, maim cut or brake bones, among adults they are harmless.
No blacks
No dogs
No Irish
Harmless?QuoteI have to say this, and i mean it with kindness; what kind of life have you lived that has led to you being in a place where you are so intolerant of what people say?
What a bizarre question. If you saw someone being mugged, would you just ignore it because intervention would be intolerance of mugger culture?
I might as well ask why you are so intolerant of what I am saying. Why don't you want me to complain, why censor me? It makes no sense.
I'll address this and then I am done with you.
First;
I don't ignore people being mugged, I have been mugged myself more than once, and after the second time I empowered myself and sent the next three running. OH and the last one was stupid enough to have his girlfriend with him, he was going to beat up the ugly old woman to show her what kind of a man he was.
When I finally finished beating his face into the sidewalk; the only reason I stopped is because his girlfriend begged me to do so. He and his girlfriend didn't walk away they ran.
In answer to your second question.
I have little patience for those such as yourself who are intolerant of the language others use.
You think it empowers you, no it doesn't it shows a lack of respect for the basic freedom all of us were born with. In a free country this kind of disrespect for freedom of speech is shunned and even occasionally laughed at out loud.
Time to move on; there are more constructive things to discuss.
Perhaps you should meditate on why words effect you the way they do.
May Piece be with you..
You are now on my ignore lise.
WTF! Why do you call yourself ugly old woman? Please improve that self-esteem!
I'm sure you think yourself about being a lot uglier than you really are. I know it perfectly, it happened to me.
Never underestimate yourself, please. Fuck off those bastards that mine your motivation and destroy your mood! I'm working on it and it's difficult to me, but I'm moving forward at my own pace and weird way ;)
The ugly old woman remark was in reference to something the last attacker said before I decided it was time to really hurt him.
QuoteNever went to a privite school, the Old Wang was a Wang 2200 that shared a disk unit and a printer with several other old Wang 2200s. Cool machine all discreet TTL chips and it ran Wang Basic, each unit had it's own tape drive. Not bad for a machine out of 1974.When I was in College I played with an older Wang all the time. I had a ball..And if that doesn't work out, I guess I'll spend the night banging on my Wang:
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/38/1b/75/381b75cb92d30e801cc36925695d80ef.jpg)
Personally, I love the fact that words and phrases have multiple meanings. If someone gets hung up on one meaning, and is offended by it, that is a deliberate choice on their part. And is not my problem.
Nice Wang! I'd love to have a play with it. ;-)
Did you like old wangs in college and played with them? Were you studying at a catholic school?
Where's that ball come from and what happened to it?
You are making me very intrigued!
;)
The college had them up for sale back in 1995, I thought about buying one just for grins and giggles but they wanabout ver $1200.00 a piece for them. Forget That. When I am in the mood there is a working Kpro-484 in the garage. It is not a Wang; but you know what they say......
;)
In all seriousness my self esteem is fine. I am in decent shape for someone who is as old as I am, (old enough to be Dave's mother :) )Any racism you may think is expressed may only be your perception.
No, it's a historical fact.QuoteWords do not harm, they cannot bruise, maim cut or brake bones, among adults they are harmless.
No blacks
No dogs
No Irish
Harmless?QuoteI have to say this, and i mean it with kindness; what kind of life have you lived that has led to you being in a place where you are so intolerant of what people say?
What a bizarre question. If you saw someone being mugged, would you just ignore it because intervention would be intolerance of mugger culture?
I might as well ask why you are so intolerant of what I am saying. Why don't you want me to complain, why censor me? It makes no sense.
I'll address this and then I am done with you.
First;
I don't ignore people being mugged, I have been mugged myself more than once, and after the second time I empowered myself and sent the next three running. OH and the last one was stupid enough to have his girlfriend with him, he was going to beat up the ugly old woman to show her what kind of a man he was.
When I finally finished beating his face into the sidewalk; the only reason I stopped is because his girlfriend begged me to do so. He and his girlfriend didn't walk away they ran.
In answer to your second question.
I have little patience for those such as yourself who are intolerant of the language others use.
You think it empowers you, no it doesn't it shows a lack of respect for the basic freedom all of us were born with. In a free country this kind of disrespect for freedom of speech is shunned and even occasionally laughed at out loud.
Time to move on; there are more constructive things to discuss.
Perhaps you should meditate on why words effect you the way they do.
May Piece be with you..
You are now on my ignore lise.
WTF! Why do you call yourself ugly old woman? Please improve that self-esteem!
I'm sure you think yourself about being a lot uglier than you really are. I know it perfectly, it happened to me.
Never underestimate yourself, please. Fuck off those bastards that mine your motivation and destroy your mood! I'm working on it and it's difficult to me, but I'm moving forward at my own pace and weird way ;)
The ugly old woman remark was in reference to something the last attacker said before I decided it was time to really hurt him.
Of great! I'm very happy to know it! I'm still not as lucky in that shit long story.QuoteNever went to a privite school, the Old Wang was a Wang 2200 that shared a disk unit and a printer with several other old Wang 2200s. Cool machine all discreet TTL chips and it ran Wang Basic, each unit had it's own tape drive. Not bad for a machine out of 1974.When I was in College I played with an older Wang all the time. I had a ball..And if that doesn't work out, I guess I'll spend the night banging on my Wang:
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/38/1b/75/381b75cb92d30e801cc36925695d80ef.jpg)
Personally, I love the fact that words and phrases have multiple meanings. If someone gets hung up on one meaning, and is offended by it, that is a deliberate choice on their part. And is not my problem.
Nice Wang! I'd love to have a play with it. ;-)
Did you like old wangs in college and played with them? Were you studying at a catholic school?
Where's that ball come from and what happened to it?
You are making me very intrigued!
;)
The college had them up for sale back in 1995, I thought about buying one just for grins and giggles but they wanabout ver $1200.00 a piece for them. Forget That. When I am in the mood there is a working Kpro-484 in the garage. It is not a Wang; but you know what they say......
;)
I just made a stupid twisted joke about catholic priests in schools and such shit. It's unfortunately quite common, so it's widely used dark humor.
Kaypro? From the DMM inventor? Is that an improved Kaypro 4? Amazing! I'm totally insanely obsessed with retrocomputing at even participating at expositions, despite being even younger than Dave. I'm a vintage lover by all means too (and a BTTF, Tron... fanboy too), old movies and music too.
I'm bored about the anxious masculinity in technology, it makes me puke and get into an aggressing bullying testosterone environment most of the time. I'm also not a neurotypical guy and have a weird soft personality, despite my rude look and movements.
It's pathetic in classrooms, really. I wish there were more women in this field. I'm sure you are a very strong hardcore geek warrior, someone to be proud to know and a great role model!
Show photos of your Kaypro 484, please! I would kill to use and play with one of these machines!
"Rice" is a reference to the stereotype that Japanese people live on rice. Historically it has been used as a racist insult.
That's not PC, is just plain racist.
It's kind of incredible how you lot manage to so consistently miss the point. It seems to be something about engineers, always looking for some kind of narrow logic while not seeing the obvious wider picture that everyone else.
Mojo, sorry mate, you usually have some pretty good input on this forum but I think this topic seems to press a few buttons with you.
This thread will only go downhill, I'm sure of it, someone give me a good reason why it shouldn't be locked?
Back to the geek speak... by the way, 21st October 2015 nears *excited*
Back to the geek speak... by the way, 21st October 2015 nears *excited*
I tried to book an huge cinema for the trilogy marathon, but Universal have vetoed the titles for the entire month of October. Exclusive deal with Hoyts >:(
EOL.
...Oh no, the guy starts talking to himself...
So yeah, I have had just about enough of your bullshit. You just couldn't leave this topic alone, could you? ...
...it's also carries pretty much the same gravity as the N word.There is no "gravity" in the N-word, because N's use the N-word all the time.
...it's also carries pretty much the same gravity as the N word.There is no "gravity" in the N-word, because N's use the N-word all the time.
The "offended" ones are simply self-victimising, and will soon find another word/expression to self-victimise, search attention, search trouble.
It's racist that non-N's get instantly punished for using the N-word, and N's can do it openly.
Got to love the Aussie sense of humor.:D
http://www.ziggy.com.au/funny%20graphics%2002.htm (http://www.ziggy.com.au/funny%20graphics%2002.htm)
That's Great.
We have a bakery here in Southern Kalifornia called the Bimbo Bakery.
And I laugh every time I see their trucks.
For what it's worth I don't like seeing thinly veiled racism on here. I fully support Mojo's point of view in this thread and others.
If Dave and the moderators are interested in improving the quality of this forum than perhaps they'd like to direct their bans etc to those who are complaining like spoiled children that they can't be mean to people any more because of 'PC gone mad'.
I don't really want to get drawn into a discussion about it, I just want to register my point of view.
I don't really want to get drawn into a discussion about it, I just want to register my point of view.
I couldn't have said it better......it's also carries pretty much the same gravity as the N word.There is no "gravity" in the N-word, because N's use the N-word all the time.
The "offended" ones are simply self-victimising, and will soon find another word/expression to self-victimise, search attention, search trouble.
It's racist that non-N's get instantly punished for using the N-word, and N's can do it openly.
For what it's worth I don't like seeing thinly veiled racism on here. I fully support Mojo's point of view in this thread and others.
If Dave and the moderators are interested in improving the quality of this forum than perhaps they'd like to direct their bans etc to those who are complaining like spoiled children that they can't be mean to people any more because of 'PC gone mad'.
I don't really want to get drawn into a discussion about it, I just want to register my point of view.
So if I tell my racist joke in the forest and no one is there to hear it? Am I still a racist and is that ok?
A useful thought experiment in these situations is to picture yourself saying your hilarious joke that's totally not racist in front of a group of people you've only recently met which includes some members of the race in question.
If I was talking to a group of people who are not close friends and there was an Irish person there, I wouldn't feel comfortable telling my hilarious joke about the two Irishmen and their two pigs.
Similarly I work with several Chinese people and I wouldn't feel comfortable using the term 'Wun Hung Lo' or 'rice boy' (seriously WTF) within earshot of them.
So if I tell my racist joke in the forest and no one is there to hear it? Am I still a racist and is that ok?The Central Scrutinizer will have it on file.
Similarly I work with several Chinese people and I wouldn't feel comfortable using the term 'Wun Hung Lo' or 'rice boy' (seriously WTF) within earshot of them.And I work with some Indian people who don't mind if I take the piss out of Indians. In fact one of them disagrees with all the PC bullshit and in many respects preferred how it was in the 70s when racist jokes were fine. Of course he doesn't like racism but PC has just made it worse in many respects.
...' or 'rice boy' (seriously WTF) within earshot of them.
You shouldn,t because Dutch was the english word for Diets in the middle ages and whole germany,holland and belgium fell into the Diets speaking countries :P
https://nl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diets
Don't worry, "rice boy" is an invention of mojo-chans own making he claims is common parlance in the UK. ... The whole rice thing is an americanism, something to do with japanese imported cars in the USA (DSM cars). It is clearly a play on words "racer" to "ricer". A car is a "ricer" if its an import covered in bling and at least 3 aftermarket company decals on the side windows. Normally used to refer to a shit cheap version with pretend turbo sound, etc. Of course the driver is also a ricer too.
SIGNS THAT YOU ARE A RICER
-You have more exhaust decibels than your engine has horsepower.
-You have aftermarket FRONT wheels for racing but stock rear wheels.
-Your engine makes twice as much horsepower as torque.
-You ever painted your wheels to match the same color of your car.
-You put your automatic car in neutral at every stoplight in order to roll it back and try to fool other people into thinking you have a manual
-DuPont gave up trying to figure out the shade you were asking for.
-Your mod list includes stereo equipment, shifter handle, MOMO steering wheel, PIA driving lights, exhaust tip, but no REAL engine parts.
-A chameleon lizard undergoes fewer shade changes than your custom paint scheme.
-Your rims and tires are so large, that you have to install the tire/wheel from underneath the car because it simply won't fit in the wheel well going in from the side.
-The dealer laughs when you bring your car back in for service under warranty, and you've only had it 6 months...
-Your tires / rims stick out from the lip of your car by more than 1".
-Your paint job is from the WRONG end of the color spectrum.
-You installed spacers on your STOCK wheels and tires to get them to stick out past the fender.
-You see cars like yours in a Shriner's Parade for Children and clowns are driving them.
-You bring a empty Maxwell House coffee can with you to compare size when you shop for an aftermarket exhaust system.
-Your Eclipse GS-T hardtop has a "SPYDER" emblem on the rear...
-Your knowledge of suspension is: "the more negative camber, the better the handling."
-You push your through the staging lanes. That way, maybe you can break into the 16s by keeping the motor cool between runs.
-You add a super tall rear wing, and a hundred pounds of aftermarket ground effects, yet you gut the interior and yank out the rear seat for weight savings.
-Your rear wing AND your rear window have a third mount brake light...
-The back lighting in the gauges in your A-pillar gauge pod work long before the actual gauges are hooked up.
-You cut 4 coil springs and scrape the chassis on the ground. Sparks are cool when you corner at normal traffic speeds!
-You have to find a way to drive AROUND speed bumps in a parking lot.
-You install clear corner and brake lights to be different.
-You install colored bulbs in your clear lenses.
-You ever put neon on the bottom of your car, and then busted it on the first speed bump you went over.
-You painted the UNDERBODY of your car to match
-If your rear spoiler is taller then you are.
-if you can fit fist f**k your exhaust tip
You have more stereo WATTS than engine TORQUE!
-If your tailpipe extension is the most expensive mod you’ve done to your engine yet.
-Your tailpipe extension fell off during a quarter mile race and you went three tenths of a second faster due to weight savings.
-EVERY car in your class has a turbo pushing double digits worth of boost.
-You spent $5,000 on the engine and you can not out run a stock Camaro, Firebird, or Mustang GT
-You want the 'wastegate' sound, but don't want to install a turbocharger system.
-You think Nitrous Oxide on your Hyundai Sonata puts you in the same performance league as the Chevy Corvette.
-The automatic version of your car runs 2 seconds slower in the 1/4mile.
-If the 1970 Plymouth Daytona Superbird has a smaller spoiler than your car does.
-You think the Del Sol is a sports car...
-A torque converter does NOTHING for your car.
-You think a deep farty noise = the sound of high performance
-If you think that horsepower is far more important than torque
-If you have ever claimed that switching to a cone filter has given you more than 10 HP.
-If you have ever considered installing more than one set of fog/driving lights.
-If you claim that the aftermarket cold air intake system you just installed doubled your horsepower or took 2 or more seconds off of your E/T.
-Your baseball cap is always on backwards when you drive.
-You spent all night on the Internet trying to find a company that makes a turbocharger system for your Hyundai...
-If you removed your side view mirrors and put them at the TOP of the door / window frame.
-If you think the Fugees are 'speed' music.
-MOMO is 'absolutely required' to go fast.
-Your four cylinder has a dual exhaust system installed.
-Your four cylinder has four exhaust pipes ("Hey, one for each cylinder!")
-The color of your interior upholstery hurts the cones and rods in other people's eyes.
-If you cannot drive your car in snow as the ground effects create a plow effect.
-If you have installed driving lights to compensate for headlight blackouts / tape.
-If you think that 280 horsepower and 185 lb/ft of torque are impressive for a ‘mildly’ modified engine.
-If you have stickers on your car for parts that you could not point out if asked where those parts are installed.
-You think pushrods are a bad thing…
-Your car has more decals than you do the quarter in seconds.
-Every Honda you EVER owned, all the way back to your 1978 Accord was either a V-Tech or a TYPE-R.
-You took your rear seat out and gutted your interior for weight savings but you installed 400 pounds of electronics, neon, DVD, Sony, etc.
If you gutted the interior to save weight on a car that you will never take to the track…
-You lean your seat so far back when you are driving, that everytime you hit a bump, its your back and not your butt that hurts.
-You have hydraulics and sixteen switches on a car you claim runs low 10s on the street and corners better than a Porsche.
-If you can estimate that your car makes more than 250 HP without ever running it at the track or getting a dyno reading.
-You claim that you can get a titanium block for your engine.
-If you have ever thought Hyundai and "PERFORMANCE" went hand in hand
-If you've ever gone to a parts shop or speed warehouse and asked for a 1" to 6" exhaust adapter...
-If you've ever contemplated adding "TYPE-R" stickers to your Sonata…
-If you've removed more than 1/2 of the coils from your springs by cutting them yourself ...
-If you have more neon lights on your car then a strip club...
-You put Kanji on your Ford ZX2 or Ford Probe...
-You own a "TYPE-R" Hyundai or Mazda.
-You couldn't afford headlight masking, so you just painted them with flat black Krylon and its peeling.
-You claim that polishing your intake gave you 5hp.
-You own a V-TECH Hyundai or Mazda (especially a V-TECH ROTORY Mazda RX-7)
-You have neon INSIDE your car or in your ENGINE compartment
-You ever claimed that high gas mileage made your car superior in performance to V8s.
-If it takes you 8000rpm to reach 30mph from a dead stop at WOT.
-You think yellow plastic interior trim makes your car cool
-You spend $500 for a giant hand welded tube for a muffler with the weld marks extremely visible
-If you paint your drum brakes to simulate Hi-po calipers
-If you install fake hi-po caliper / disc simulators
-You have a FRONT wing.
-If you lower your car and add ground effects but retain the stock 14inch wheels with disc style wheel covers
-If you equate the sound of performance with the sound of a Weed Eaterâ„¢
-If you think bolting a fake muffler to one side to simulate dual exhaust is cool
-If you think colored head lights work better
-Clear tail lights and turn signals. They’re colored for a REASON!
-If you take mom's 4 door Honda accord and do any kind of mod to it
-You drive a Ford Escort station wagon with Kanji, wide tires, and Limp Bizkit stickers on the rear hatch
-You claim you lost the race because you had a passenger in the car.
-You claim how if you went from a roll you would have beat him.
-You claim you lost because you missed a shift.. and your car is an automatic.
-You claim you lost because he must have been on the juice..
-Flying past the person who is 10 car lengths in front of you after they have put on their brakes.. and claim a victory.
-after losing you flip your opponent off.. rev your motor and fail to break the wheels loose even around a corner.
-Tell everyone about how you lost the cop because of your "driving skills".
-you are a white kid driving an import.. wear baggy pants/hat turned around, walk with a fake limp and end every sentence with "yew know wha I'm sayin?"
-Your idea of aiming a handgun is raising your arm over your head, pointing the gun away from you, and then just letting your wrist fall to the side to where the gun is almost sideway ...
-drive around in a $20,000 import with $10,000 in mods.. and still live with your parents.
-You can relate to every line of the song "Pretty Fly For A White Guy" by the Offspring
-you take offense when I say.. "your sister is like your car.. small, tight and relatively easy to get into."
Being minority here, let's get away from the racism thread shit in order not to get banned.
Too late. It's clear that Dave is never, ever going to stop harassing me. I'm switching to other sites.
If anyone wants a copy of my bulk post deletion software, PM me. Nearly 4000 posts took about an hour, and near zero effort.
Thanks for the link, but it wasn't about the word "Dutch" in itself, rather expressions with the word, e.g. "Dutch treat" or "go Dutch".
Can I say good ridance ?
Typo, should be "riddance".
... my bulk post deletion software ... Nearly 4000 posts took about an hour.
Indians is a different story. I know quite some Indians, and they love to bash their own race.All the people I personally know bash their own race and group-religion. But none of them likes the way their so-said-race-reprensentatives are shown up on TV to play victim of whatever.
...My point is that if your joke or phrase fails the thought experiment test then you should be thinking very carefully about if and when to use it...Oh no, the Mojo guy is back again...
... Nearly 4000 posts took about an hour.
Childish to the end...
If anyone wants a copy of my bulk post deletion software, PM me.His political-correct-post-generation software still isn't ready to be distributed.
Inspector: I'm recommending we withhold your budget.
Until my disciplinary and administrative recommendations are instituted.
I'd say there are severe doubts as to the overall efficiency here at Denton.
Frost: Now just a moment, sir.
We've arrested a drug pusher for peddling ecstasy to kids, a woman for ABH, and her husband for killing a horse for the insurance money.
And last, but not least, we've tracked down the murderer of six people.
Mullet: Yes, an effective cohesion of resources resulting in the reduction of undesirable elements in society wishing to commit offences.
Frost: Or to put it my language, we nicked the lot.
Can I say good ridance ?Being minority here, let's get away from the racism thread shit in order not to get banned.
Too late. It's clear that Dave is never, ever going to stop harassing me. I'm switching to other sites.
If anyone wants a copy of my bulk post deletion software, PM me. Nearly 4000 posts took about an hour, and near zero effort.
Typo, should be "riddance".
Some/many of you may be familiar with the UK police series "A Touch of Frost". One of the episodes deals with this politically corrrect languange and it's this passage that I find hilarious (from 1:10:38):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOzulhZx7oc?t=1h10m18s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOzulhZx7oc)QuoteJust to let you know, you can insert the youtube time cue by adding ?t=..h..m..s at the end of the URL, so for example I have fixed yours to:Hmm.. It seems you have to put 20 seconds back for it to buffer... I've changed the URL to 1h10m18s...
/watch?v=lOzulhZx7oc?t=1h10m38s :-+
Some/many of you may be familiar with the UK police series "A Touch of Frost". One of the episodes deals with this politically corrrect languange and it's this passage that I find hilarious (from 1:10:38):
Just to let you know, you can insert the youtube time cue by adding ?t=..h..m..s at the end of the URL, so for example I have fixed yours to:
/watch?v=lOzulhZx7oc?t=1h10m38s :-+
Hmm.. It seems you have to put 20 seconds back for it to buffer... I've changed the URL to 1h10m18s...
Being minority here, let's get away from the racism thread shit in order not to get banned.
Too late. It's clear that Dave is never, ever going to stop harassing me. I'm switching to other sites.
If anyone wants a copy of my bulk post deletion software, PM me. Nearly 4000 posts took about an hour, and near zero effort.
But it doesn't seem that those terms are used. But another term, native americans and mexicans are used, or are they called mexican-americans?
Personally I do not understand that americans dare to use a term like afro-american?
That can never be political correct in our country? To me it sounds like an afro-american is different than a standard american?
How stupid. So to be not racist in the USA everyone should then also use terms like dutch-americans, irish-americans, italian-americans, polish-americans?
But it doesn't seem that those terms are used. But another term, native americans and mexicans are used, or are they called mexican-americans?
I don't get it that it looks like only groups of people with a different skin color get a different name, and that in my book is real racism.
My problem with this is why is someone able to delete 4000 of their own posts? Being able to edit/delete your post for say an hour after making it is great to fix mistakes, but going back just messes with the flow of the old threads.It's been discussed before - the general feeling has been it is useful to be able to go back and add new information to old posts so it has stayed that way.
My problem with this is why is someone able to delete 4000 of their own posts? Being able to edit/delete your post for say an hour after making it is great to fix mistakes, but going back just messes with the flow of the old threads.It's been discussed before - the general feeling has been it is useful to be able to go back and add new information to old posts so it has stayed that way.
My problem with this is why is someone able to delete 4000 of their own posts? Being able to edit/delete your post for say an hour after making it is great to fix mistakes, but going back just messes with the flow of the old threads.It's been discussed before - the general feeling has been it is useful to be able to go back and add new information to old posts so it has stayed that way.
You have to admit it allows a less than honest person to Re-Write History.
My problem with this is why is someone able to delete 4000 of their own posts? Being able to edit/delete your post for say an hour after making it is great to fix mistakes, but going back just messes with the flow of the old threads.
If this thread should be closed, before it does, I just want to say that excluding one person who has removed themself, the level of maturity here is downright impressive.
I grew up with a different ideology, I think you did also.My problem with this is why is someone able to delete 4000 of their own posts? Being able to edit/delete your post for say an hour after making it is great to fix mistakes, but going back just messes with the flow of the old threads.It's been discussed before - the general feeling has been it is useful to be able to go back and add new information to old posts so it has stayed that way.
You have to admit it allows a less than honest person to Re-Write History.
The ability to re-write history used to take a lot of time and effort , sometimes spanning generations.
Now, all you have to do is click modify.
I'm sure by most this is seen as "progress".
Yeah, I'm allergic at the ability to edit old posts after a reasonable amount of time has elapsed. Can you tell?
If this thread should be closed, before it does, I just want to say that excluding one person who has removed themself, the level of maturity here is downright impressive.
I commend the people who could see what was happening ...
I am confident many more agree with you ...
... and are thankful for your effort.
Too late. It's clear that Dave is never, ever going to stop harassing me. I'm switching to other sites.
That reminds me of an ex of mine who dumped me, then regularly phoned me up, gave me an hour of verbal abuse, then when I finally told her I'd be registering her as a nuisance caller if she called again she accused me of threatening behaviour!
QuoteThat reminds me of an ex of mine who dumped me, then regularly phoned me up, gave me an hour of verbal abuse, then when I finally told her I'd be registering her as a nuisance caller if she called again she accused me of threatening behaviour!
You just will have to forgive her behavior, she was a starter wife.
QuoteThat reminds me of an ex of mine who dumped me, then regularly phoned me up, gave me an hour of verbal abuse, then when I finally told her I'd be registering her as a nuisance caller if she called again she accused me of threatening behaviour!
You just will have to forgive her behavior, she was a starter wife.
I have never been married, it was an ex GF. I've been very close, but thankfully as it turned out my mistake was rectified, although it didn't seem that way at the time.
I didn't want to believe a mob could gather here to hound a long standing member out.
I didn't want to believe a mob could gather here to hound a long standing member out.
Thanks for explaining, makes a lot of sense. And no unfortunately we are far from perfect, we in the Netherlands do have exactly the same problems with some groups that came here 30 to 40 years ago but kept their way of doing from the original country. That might be OK but some of them are requesting now that we adapt, towards their culture.
Practically speaking, a term for a specific ethnicity is only needed so long as that ethnicity needs to be referred to. The Dutch, Irish, Italians, and Polish were ALL discriminated against historically, when that ethnicity was new to us. But we got over it, which wasn't too hard because they generally don't ask to be identified as such, and don't try to act as separate groups.
That eventual acceptance is not prevented by skin color. A lot of Brazilians, Jamaicans, Indians (from India), Cubans, Iranians, and so on have successfully integrated as well.
But African Americans, Native Americans, and Mexicans often deliberately choose to act as separate groups, both socially and politically. This is what perpetuates discrimination and racism, and it will never go away so long as this separatism still exists.
In the Netherlands, maybe you haven't been exposed to this. If so, then that's awesome, but you won't understand unless you come here. Turn on the TV, there's an episode of Swamp People on with a Native American alligator hunter, who's constantly going on about how he's better than the rest because he's Native American. Go to a major Black Music Festival to expand your musical horizons, only to find that only half of it is music, the other half is whipping the crowd into a frenzy with firey speeches about their heritage of being oppressed by white men. Go to the store, and the checkout line you're in is held up by an 18-year old Mexican trying to buy alcohol, who pretends he doesn't speak a word of English and doesn't understand he's being asked for ID; then goes and laughs about it afterwards with his friends, in perfect English. Find an offer in your mailbox to buy "The Black Pages", a phone directory of black-owned businesses; and know that even though it might not be needed, you could never, ever promote your business under your own ethnicity without scandal. Discover that this is commonplace, encouraged, and something you will see on an almost daily basis. So-called "reverse racism" is absolutely rampant, which is a misnomer, as there is no such thing. There is only racism.
This thread represents the lowest ebb of the EEVBlog forum I have seen in 5 years. It is a complete disgrace. I didn't want to believe a mob could gather here to hound a long standing member out. It is just shameful. Seeing a moderator getting involved is disappointing.
I will not ever look on the EEVBlog forum the same again.
I commend the people who could see what was happening and spoke up against it. I am confident many more agree with you and are thankful for your effort. I am one of them.
With great power comes great responsibility or something like that :)My problem with this is why is someone able to delete 4000 of their own posts? Being able to edit/delete your post for say an hour after making it is great to fix mistakes, but going back just messes with the flow of the old threads.It's been discussed before - the general feeling has been it is useful to be able to go back and add new information to old posts so it has stayed that way.
You have to admit it allows a less than honest person to Re-Write History.
Getting back on topic, I decided to try my google fu (https://translate.google.com/#zh-CN/en/%E4%B8%87%0A%E7%BA%A2%0A%E8%80%81%E5%93%A6) on this one.
Click the loudspeaker icon at the bottom of the chinese panel to hear it spoken by a fair oriental maiden :-DD
Ten thousand
Red
Old Well
I'm sure there are better translations :-+
With great power comes great responsibility or something like that :)My problem with this is why is someone able to delete 4000 of their own posts? Being able to edit/delete your post for say an hour after making it is great to fix mistakes, but going back just messes with the flow of the old threads.It's been discussed before - the general feeling has been it is useful to be able to go back and add new information to old posts so it has stayed that way.
You have to admit it allows a less than honest person to Re-Write History.
...While I see no glory in him going, if you ever did look at the content of his posts, there was little, if any technical content, and any there was was so vague as to add no real value....
Well the whole racial debate is incredible difficult. That which one group sees as harmless can be offensive to another...No it's not. Keep the socialists and other freeriders out of every "group" and everything runs smooth.
Well the whole racial debate is incredible difficult. That which one group sees as harmless can be offensive to another...No it's not. Keep the socialists and other freeriders out of every "group" and everything runs smooth.
Being a victim is a fulltime job for those guys.
Getting back on topic, I decided to try my google fu (https://translate.google.com/#zh-CN/en/%E4%B8%87%0A%E7%BA%A2%0A%E8%80%81%E5%93%A6) on this one.
This thread represents the lowest ebb of the EEVBlog forum I have seen in 5 years. It is a complete disgrace. I didn't want to believe a mob could gather here to hound a long standing member out. It is just shameful. Seeing a moderator getting involved is disappointing.
I will not ever look on the EEVBlog forum the same again.
I commend the people who could see what was happening and spoke up against it. I am confident many more agree with you and are thankful for your effort. I am one of them.
I am sorry you feel this way. Either way someone will get upset. This thread was not about Mojo, he chose to chip in and i warned him it was a bad idea, then he threw a tantrum. Whatever we do someone will be an injured party and this sort of talk will always crop up one way or the other. As others have mentioned this thread has been quite adult. It all went downhill when guess who joined in. Mojo has done plenty to derail plenty of threads. He's welcome to stay go do as he damn well pleases, but this is not his forum and there is no point in pushing a discussion in a certain direction then crying when he can't hold his own.
Personally i get fed up with the rascism argument. I see plenty of so called ethnic minorities deliberately islolating themselves as they have no interest in the rest of us just carrying on as though they are "back home" then we come along and set up positive descrimination schemes to try and coax them to engage.
If someone calls themselbes a nigger then they can't complain about being called a nigger. On this very forum i received a report because a member had refered to a guy in a youtube video that was linkd in the thread as a nigger. So I had to trawl back and find how it started as i could not beleive that that particular member would be rascists because i knew him of old. Guess what the guy in the video kept calling himself a nigger and this user would have not known the difference as he caomes from a culturally isolated country and had no idea.
I spent 14 years being persecuted when I lived in italy just because i was a foreigner, and few knew I had a far higher standard of italian heritage than most of them. They were so ignorant where i lived that every foreigner was "albanese scum" as it was the albanese that were coming over at the time i arrived.
Please reduce SNR, it's becoming too high!
I propose a poll to open or close this forum thread.
To me, this is boring and disturbing.
I think moderators and Dave should be more neutral about this stuff the next time, apply a ban or whatever way to solve conflicts with the lowest possible noise. I think they should avoid endless arguing even if they are right.
Please reduce SNR, it's becoming too high!
Please reduce SNR, it's becoming too high!
Please reduce SNR, it's becoming too high!
I personally prefer a much higher signal to noise.
I propose a poll to open or close this forum thread.
To me, this is boring and disturbing.
I think moderators and Dave should be more neutral about this stuff the next time, apply a ban or whatever way to solve conflicts with the lowest possible noise. I think they should avoid endless arguing even if they are right.
Please reduce SNR, it's becoming too high!
I am afraid some things don't resolve themsleves quietly, not matter how hard you try. People have been told and point have been made but whether or not people are willing to be adult about it is another matter. If you lock one thread another will crop up or worse the same argument will crop up in an entirely different thread. If we have to have it out best to just have it out.
Please reduce SNR, it's becoming too high!
Nothing is ever as effective at increasing SNR on the internet as mental filtering, there is no substitute (well, except turning it off I guess).
I propose a poll to open or close this forum thread.
To me, this is boring and disturbing.
I think moderators and Dave should be more neutral about this stuff the next time, apply a ban or whatever way to solve conflicts with the lowest possible noise. I think they should avoid endless arguing even if they are right.
Please reduce SNR, it's becoming too high!
I am afraid some things don't resolve themsleves quietly, not matter how hard you try. People have been told and point have been made but whether or not people are willing to be adult about it is another matter. If you lock one thread another will crop up or worse the same argument will crop up in an entirely different thread. If we have to have it out best to just have it out.
I'm still trying to understand the fundamentals. I wrote something foolish! I'm sorry for the shameful mistake!
What kind of liberalism? The weird American version that confuses their take on 1920's Social Liberalism with a one size fits all Socialism? Or Liberalism in the classical term whose base values are freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, free markets, civil rights, democratic societies, secular governments, and international cooperation?Well the whole racial debate is incredible difficult. That which one group sees as harmless can be offensive to another...No it's not. Keep the socialists and other freeriders out of every "group" and everything runs smooth.
Being a victim is a fulltime job for those guys.
Couldn't have said it better :-+
I can't say I'm overly sad to see the back of the resident hand wringing liberal. I strongly suspect he will find that the grass is not greener on the other side of the fence, though I'm sure he will make every attempt to paint it in his favoured colour.
Still haven't figured out how to ignore threads.The Ignore list utilizes that most complex of computers, the one we all have.
I'm actually close to ignoring the General forum, but that would exclude a lot of interesting electronics related content. Can't we have a Political Asylum forum that everyone visiting this site for their fix of electronics can safely ignore?
In any case, I fear that one day the EEVBlog forum will have it's Reddit moment if off-topic content (no matter which side of the aisle) isn't moderated out more stringently.
Still haven't figured out how to ignore threads.The Ignore list utilizes that most complex of computers, the one we all have.
I'm actually close to ignoring the General forum, but that would exclude a lot of interesting electronics related content. Can't we have a Political Asylum forum that everyone visiting this site for their fix of electronics can safely ignore?
In any case, I fear that one day the EEVBlog forum will have it's Reddit moment if off-topic content (no matter which side of the aisle) isn't moderated out more stringently.
It works better than any other software implemented ignore function.
The backup from two days ago could be used to restore all the posts, just a thought.
Still haven't figured out how to ignore threads.
For example, these are my basic political opinions (simplified):Wow, I agree with about 95% of that!
As for this thread, it's been a rare opportunity and privilege. But I agree it's time for it to pass before it jumps the shark. Consensus?Lots of people want this thread gone, yet they continue to post in it and it's one of the most popular threads at the moment, so I don't see why there's any reason it should be closed.
Do not restore my deleted posts. You have been warned.
Why not stop this shit definitely? What's your goal?People, please stop this war. It's becoming retarded, OCD and childish...There is no war. It's all just in your head.
...To me, this is boring and disturbing.So you are calling for a ban on yourself? That's the second guy in one week.
I think moderators and Dave should be more neutral about this stuff the next time, apply a ban or whatever way to solve conflicts with the lowest possible noise. I think they should avoid endless arguing even if they are right...
Circuitoero,
I am offended by your constant use of the label "geek". Ok, not personally, but I am hand-wringingly offended on other peoples behalf.
To me its as bad as the N word. You really wouldn't use the N word now would you? Something to think about...
Of course, I am allowed to use it as I am from that victimised minority group. Yes, I am allowed to use the N word amongst fellow nerds. There I said it! ;)
Do not restore my deleted posts. You have been warned.
I'm getting abusive emails and harassment on social media, apparently from an EEVBlog user. Please close and delete this thread to stop the abuse perpetuating.You promised to go to other forums. Don't try to demonize EEVBlog users without proof.
I'm getting abusive emails and harassment on social media, apparently from an EEVBlog user. Please close and delete this thread to stop the abuse perpetuating.
Ouch, guys, we've been *warned*.
Based on another recent thread, I suspected this might be coming. So I took the liberty of archiving mojo's entire post history (including the entire contents of each thread he's posted in, so his posts will have context).
Now that mojo has explicitly told us not to restore his posts, I'm going to post them on Google indexed website. I just registered ban-mojo-chan.com -- I'll have the site up later today.
Remember mojo, what you say on the Internet is there forever. So think twice next time before you say something you might regret. Deleting all your posts serves no purpose and is nothing more than you taking your ball and going home.
(You're lucky I'm not putting your *real* name on the site. Can you imagine a potential employer Googling you? But that would be crossing the line and I'm better than that.)
Sent from my Tablet
Circuitoero,
I am offended by your constant use of the label "geek". Ok, not personally, but I am hand-wringingly offended on other peoples behalf.
To me its as bad as the N word. You really wouldn't use the N word now would you? Something to think about...
Of course, I am allowed to use it as I am from that victimised minority group. Yes, I am allowed to use the N word amongst fellow nerds. There I said it! ;)
"Persecuting"? Really? I think we need get a sense of perspective here.
The term geek seems to have morphed from a socially awkward person with a passion for technical things (aka someone with autistic tendencies before we knew what autism was) to anyone who owns more than one apple device. Which version exactly were you considering.No no! Those are Hipsters. They ride fixie bikes and drink skinny lattes. Burn them!
People who start to yell 'racism' often have more problems in their brain than there are actual problems. For example: In the NL there is a lot of discussion about 'Black Pete' (the helper of Sinterklaas) being a racial stereotype. Everyone forgets Black Pete is supposed to climb up & down inside chimneys so no wonder he is black! :palm:
I just spotted this on Youtube when you right-click a video: 'statistics for nerds' to show info about the video.
I just spotted this on Youtube when you right-click a video: 'statistics for nerds' to show info about the video.I just tried it on a catchy little number by Azealia Banks (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3Jv9fNPjgk&ab_channel=AzealiaBanks). It's packed with N words and there is even a nerdy homie from da 212 in the vid too (I mean he has spectacles, one of us...!).
Think I need a translator for that+100 , its like a loud fast dustbin banged against me head.
I'm getting abusive emails and harassment on social media, apparently from an EEVBlog user. Please close and delete this thread to stop the abuse perpetuating.You know what to do.
I just spotted this on Youtube when you right-click a video: 'statistics for nerds' to show info about the video.I just tried it on a catchy little number by Azealia Banks (http://AzealiaBanks). It's packed with N words and there is even a nerdy homie from da 212 in the vid too (I mean he has spectacles, one of us...!).
Ouch, guys, we've been *warned*.
Based on another recent thread, I suspected this might be coming. So I took the liberty of archiving mojo's entire post history (including the entire contents of each thread he's posted in, so his posts will have context).
Now that mojo has explicitly told us not to restore his posts, I'm going to post them on Google indexed website. I just registered ban-mojo-chan.com -- I'll have the site up later today.
Remember mojo, what you say on the Internet is there forever. So think twice next time before you say something you might regret. Deleting all your posts serves no purpose and is nothing more than you taking your ball and going home.
(You're lucky I'm not putting your *real* name on the site. Can you imagine a potential employer Googling you? But that would be crossing the line and I'm better than that.)
Sent from my Tablet
And you think twice before copying data from this site and posting it elsewhere with the purpose of persecuting a member of this forum past or present. You can and will find yourself banned bery fast, your not that far down on the list of concerns from mojo.....
Why is it so hard to Just Walk Away ?
I totally get it; someone had to say it though.Why is it so hard to Just Walk Away ?
Please don't take this the wrong way, but I guess it's because we keep responding to MC's posts... And maybe he's also one of those people who has to have the last word, no matter what.
I'm getting abusive emails and harassment on social media, apparently from an EEVBlog user. Please close and delete this thread to stop the abuse perpetuating.You know what to do.
1. Just ignore it
2. get a lawyer and find out from Comcast who was using that IP address (yes I looked it up from the other thread)
3. contact their ISP yourself and send copies of the abusive emails to their ISP and let them deal with it.
4. get the necessary items and cast a spell on the offending person / persons.
Why is it so hard to Just Walk Away ?
I don,t understand why he is not banned
Ouch, guys, we've been *warned*.
Based on another recent thread, I suspected this might be coming. So I took the liberty of archiving mojo's entire post history (including the entire contents of each thread he's posted in, so his posts will have context).
Now that mojo has explicitly told us not to restore his posts, I'm going to post them on Google indexed website. I just registered ban-mojo-chan.com -- I'll have the site up later today.
Remember mojo, what you say on the Internet is there forever. So think twice next time before you say something you might regret. Deleting all your posts serves no purpose and is nothing more than you taking your ball and going home.
(You're lucky I'm not putting your *real* name on the site. Can you imagine a potential employer Googling you? But that would be crossing the line and I'm better than that.)
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And you think twice before copying data from this site and posting it elsewhere with the purpose of persecuting a member of this forum past or present. You can and will find yourself banned bery fast, your not that far down on the list of concerns from mojo.....
Circuitoero,
I am offended by your constant use of the label "geek". Ok, not personally, but I am hand-wringingly offended on other peoples behalf.
To me its as bad as the N word. You really wouldn't use the N word now would you? Something to think about...
Of course, I am allowed to use it as I am from that victimised minority group. Yes, I am allowed to use the N word amongst fellow nerds. There I said it! ;)
The term geek seems to have morphed from a socially awkward person with a passion for technical things (aka someone with autistic tendencies before we knew what autism was) to anyone who owns more than one apple device. Which version exactly were you considering.
No no! Those are Hipsters. They ride fixie bikes and drink skinny lattes. Burn them!
"Persecuting"? Really? I think we need get a sense of perspective here.
Indeed, many do.
I'm getting abusive emails and harassment on social media, apparently from an EEVBlog user. Please close and delete this thread to stop the abuse perpetuating.You know what to do.
1. Just ignore it
2. get a lawyer and find out from Comcast who was using that IP address (yes I looked it up from the other thread)
3. contact their ISP yourself and send copies of the abusive emails to their ISP and let them deal with it.
4. get the necessary items and cast a spell on the offending person / persons.
Why is it so hard to Just Walk Away ?
Ouch, guys, we've been *warned*.
Based on another recent thread, I suspected this might be coming. So I took the liberty of archiving mojo's entire post history (including the entire contents of each thread he's posted in, so his posts will have context).
Now that mojo has explicitly told us not to restore his posts, I'm going to post them on Google indexed website. I just registered ban-mojo-chan.com -- I'll have the site up later today.
Remember mojo, what you say on the Internet is there forever. So think twice next time before you say something you might regret. Deleting all your posts serves no purpose and is nothing more than you taking your ball and going home.
(You're lucky I'm not putting your *real* name on the site. Can you imagine a potential employer Googling you? But that would be crossing the line and I'm better than that.)
Sent from my Tablet
And you think twice before copying data from this site and posting it elsewhere with the purpose of persecuting a member of this forum past or present. You can and will find yourself banned bery fast, your not that far down on the list of concerns from mojo.....
Apparently I forgot sarcasm doesn't translate well to text. Oh well.
Do you seriously think I'd go through all the time and effort, including *buying* a domain name? It's laughable. (As is copying data from a public forum being persecution in any shape or form. I suppose you're going to ban anyone that works for Archive.org as well? ;D)
Edit: Just to be clear, *no*, I'm obviously not going to do that...
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Agreed, it is interesting though knowing how that disease of hyper sensitivity political correct5ness has begun to spread like a cander in the US. It looks like you cannot go anywhere in the world to get away from it.I'm getting abusive emails and harassment on social media, apparently from an EEVBlog user. Please close and delete this thread to stop the abuse perpetuating.You know what to do.
1. Just ignore it
2. get a lawyer and find out from Comcast who was using that IP address (yes I looked it up from the other thread)
3. contact their ISP yourself and send copies of the abusive emails to their ISP and let them deal with it.
4. get the necessary items and cast a spell on the offending person / persons.
Why is it so hard to Just Walk Away ?
Considering Mojo's history of hyper sensitivity and false complaints about ad-hominem, I would take this harassment accusation with caution. It's like that wolf story.
Best is to ignore him. He did the right thing removing his posts and leaving to sites that better fit his needs. It's a win win.
Agreed, it is interesting though knowing how that disease of hyper sensitivity political correct5ness has begun to spread like a cander in the US. It looks like you cannot go anywhere in the world to get away from it.I'm getting abusive emails and harassment on social media, apparently from an EEVBlog user. Please close and delete this thread to stop the abuse perpetuating.You know what to do.
1. Just ignore it
2. get a lawyer and find out from Comcast who was using that IP address (yes I looked it up from the other thread)
3. contact their ISP yourself and send copies of the abusive emails to their ISP and let them deal with it.
4. get the necessary items and cast a spell on the offending person / persons.
Why is it so hard to Just Walk Away ?
Considering Mojo's history of hyper sensitivity and false complaints about ad-hominem, I would take this harassment accusation with caution. It's like that wolf story.
Best is to ignore him. He did the right thing removing his posts and leaving to sites that better fit his needs. It's a win win.
It is a backhanded form of censorship.
Agreed, it is interesting though knowing how that disease of hyper sensitivity political correct5ness has begun to spread like a cander in the US. It looks like you cannot go anywhere in the world to get away from it.
It is a backhanded form of censorship.
Living as I do here in Kalifornia I could tell you stories.......Agreed, it is interesting though knowing how that disease of hyper sensitivity political correct5ness has begun to spread like a cander in the US. It looks like you cannot go anywhere in the world to get away from it.
It is a backhanded form of censorship.
It is funny ( the only "F" word SWMBO allows me to use) how the most intolerant and divisive people are the ones who preach tolerance and diversity the loudest. Can't forget the grievance industry-it's always everyone else's fault. AF6LJ, you're only bigoted, racist, homophobic, insert word of the day ad nauseum, etc if you don't agree with them. If you do, then it's progressive. >:D
Thankfully here in the US there is a growing backlash, people realize its purpose is to limit free speech, and the free exchange of ideas that are contrary to what the authoritarians find as acceptable.Agreed, it is interesting though knowing how that disease of hyper sensitivity political correct5ness has begun to spread like a cander in the US. It looks like you cannot go anywhere in the world to get away from it.I'm getting abusive emails and harassment on social media, apparently from an EEVBlog user. Please close and delete this thread to stop the abuse perpetuating.You know what to do.
1. Just ignore it
2. get a lawyer and find out from Comcast who was using that IP address (yes I looked it up from the other thread)
3. contact their ISP yourself and send copies of the abusive emails to their ISP and let them deal with it.
4. get the necessary items and cast a spell on the offending person / persons.
Why is it so hard to Just Walk Away ?
Considering Mojo's history of hyper sensitivity and false complaints about ad-hominem, I would take this harassment accusation with caution. It's like that wolf story.
Best is to ignore him. He did the right thing removing his posts and leaving to sites that better fit his needs. It's a win win.
It is a backhanded form of censorship.
I'm neutral about this shit, I just want to go away and be a lesson to improve this site.
- Better moderation.
- More granularity in forum sections.
- Punish personal attacks and overreacting to certain actions.
Political correctness is spreading like shit everywhere. You might be amazingly surprised.
Ouch, guys, we've been *warned*.
Based on another recent thread, I suspected this might be coming. So I took the liberty of archiving mojo's entire post history (including the entire contents of each thread he's posted in, so his posts will have context).
Now that mojo has explicitly told us not to restore his posts, I'm going to post them on Google indexed website. I just registered ban-mojo-chan.com -- I'll have the site up later today.
Remember mojo, what you say on the Internet is there forever. So think twice next time before you say something you might regret. Deleting all your posts serves no purpose and is nothing more than you taking your ball and going home.
(You're lucky I'm not putting your *real* name on the site. Can you imagine a potential employer Googling you? But that would be crossing the line and I'm better than that.)
Sent from my Tablet
And you think twice before copying data from this site and posting it elsewhere with the purpose of persecuting a member of this forum past or present. You can and will find yourself banned bery fast, your not that far down on the list of concerns from mojo.....
Apparently I forgot sarcasm doesn't translate well to text. Oh well.
Do you seriously think I'd go through all the time and effort, including *buying* a domain name? It's laughable. (As is copying data from a public forum being persecution in any shape or form. I suppose you're going to ban anyone that works for Archive.org as well? ;D)
Edit: Just to be clear, *no*, I'm obviously not going to do that...
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Thankfully here in the US there is a growing backlash, people realize its purpose is to limit free speech, and the free exchange of ideas that are contrary to what the authoritarians find as acceptable.Agreed, it is interesting though knowing how that disease of hyper sensitivity political correct5ness has begun to spread like a cander in the US. It looks like you cannot go anywhere in the world to get away from it.I'm getting abusive emails and harassment on social media, apparently from an EEVBlog user. Please close and delete this thread to stop the abuse perpetuating.You know what to do.
1. Just ignore it
2. get a lawyer and find out from Comcast who was using that IP address (yes I looked it up from the other thread)
3. contact their ISP yourself and send copies of the abusive emails to their ISP and let them deal with it.
4. get the necessary items and cast a spell on the offending person / persons.
Why is it so hard to Just Walk Away ?
Considering Mojo's history of hyper sensitivity and false complaints about ad-hominem, I would take this harassment accusation with caution. It's like that wolf story.
Best is to ignore him. He did the right thing removing his posts and leaving to sites that better fit his needs. It's a win win.
It is a backhanded form of censorship.
I'm neutral about this shit, I just want to go away and be a lesson to improve this site.
- Better moderation.
- More granularity in forum sections.
- Punish personal attacks and overreacting to certain actions.
Political correctness is spreading like shit everywhere. You might be amazingly surprised.
It is funny ( the only "F" word SWMBO allows me to use) how the most intolerant and divisive people are the ones who preach tolerance and diversity the loudest. Can't forget the grievance industry-it's always everyone else's fault. AF6LJ, you're only bigoted, racist, homophobic, insert word of the day ad nauseum, etc if you don't agree with them. If you do, then it's progressive. >:DIntroduce your missus to some Father Ted (Channel 4) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdkN57xvekI&list)... Father Jack here is an extreme example, but the Irish with all that catholic guilt do not like the fuck word, but feel the need to say it, so "FECK", no problem... I had an Irish project manager who would use it all the time and she was an angel so it wasn't used crudely at all ;)
I was told off for referring to Italians as iti's yet I am one quarter one of those and have never heard anybody getting upset about being called a Brit. Political correctness just gives some people with nothing better to do a sense of authority to go around telling people off.
I just tried it on a catchy little number by Azealia Banks (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3Jv9fNPjgk&ab_channel=AzealiaBanks). It's packed with N words and there is even a nerdy homie from da 212 in the vid too (I mean he has spectacles, one of us...!).
I do understand the references to cunnilingus, etc. But what is all that stuff about eating a pear? :-DD
You have most of it right, yes on destroying governments and to the disgust of those of us who are enlightened to see the truth looking back at us.Thankfully here in the US there is a growing backlash, people realize its purpose is to limit free speech, and the free exchange of ideas that are contrary to what the authoritarians find as acceptable.Agreed, it is interesting though knowing how that disease of hyper sensitivity political correct5ness has begun to spread like a cander in the US. It looks like you cannot go anywhere in the world to get away from it.I'm getting abusive emails and harassment on social media, apparently from an EEVBlog user. Please close and delete this thread to stop the abuse perpetuating.You know what to do.
1. Just ignore it
2. get a lawyer and find out from Comcast who was using that IP address (yes I looked it up from the other thread)
3. contact their ISP yourself and send copies of the abusive emails to their ISP and let them deal with it.
4. get the necessary items and cast a spell on the offending person / persons.
Why is it so hard to Just Walk Away ?
Considering Mojo's history of hyper sensitivity and false complaints about ad-hominem, I would take this harassment accusation with caution. It's like that wolf story.
Best is to ignore him. He did the right thing removing his posts and leaving to sites that better fit his needs. It's a win win.
It is a backhanded form of censorship.
I'm neutral about this shit, I just want to go away and be a lesson to improve this site.
- Better moderation.
- More granularity in forum sections.
- Punish personal attacks and overreacting to certain actions.
Political correctness is spreading like shit everywhere. You might be amazingly surprised.
Well. I'm pessimistic about that.
Big brothers control the information. Stapled Oligopolistic States have the most powerful military, cultural, economical and international intelligence networks to destroy governments, countries and buy the brightest minds or destroy them.
Your government steal resources from other places, using military as an economical tool. But every other fucking country does it, just this one is better at it.
The oligarchy surpassed Rome in their brightest days. They sophisticated the colonization by economy, culture, control of information and military. Their hegemony is something fucking unprecedented.
ICANN isn't International. Internet is a government controlled institution.
Even this mindjack shit from an insane poor guy is probably scanned by some secret technology, their military R&D is fucking huge and ARPANET got invented when most computers where just no more than a bit sophisticated calculators.
Public criticism can make you get into their terrorist list ;)
And other big countries do the same, freedom is a false perception. They are our overlords.
Free speech? Are you sure it's just real? Anyway, speech dilutes if isn't converted into substance ;)
You are with them or against them.
I just spotted this on Youtube when you right-click a video: 'statistics for nerds' to show info about the video.I just tried it on a catchy little number by Azealia Banks (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3Jv9fNPjgk&ab_channel=AzealiaBanks). It's packed with N words and there is even a nerdy homie from da 212 in the vid too (I mean he has spectacles, one of us...!).
I do understand the references to cunnilingus, etc. But what is all that stuff about eating a pear? :-DD
I was told off for referring to Italians as iti's yet I am one quarter one of those and have never heard anybody getting upset about being called a Brit. Political correctness just gives some people with nothing better to do a sense of authority to go around telling people off.
Some Poms don't like being called Poms,& go the "victim" route.
Others are "tough as old boots" & don't give a damn!
I tend to use "Brits" as short for "British people",as apart from the fact people from other countries don't always know what "Poms" are,it is a specific term for English folk & is not appropriate for other well,-----Brits! ;D
By way of an aside,years ago,I heard English people referring to themselves as "Boots",but only in Oz.
Around the same time,I spent some time in the UK,but didn't hear it there.
Anybody else heard this nickname?
Here in Ontario we say "Please excuse my French", followed by whatever shiit you want to unload.
I got that once from a nice old bricklayer that I affectionately called a Pom.I was told off for referring to Italians as iti's yet I am one quarter one of those and have never heard anybody getting upset about being called a Brit. Political correctness just gives some people with nothing better to do a sense of authority to go around telling people off.
Some Poms don't like being called Poms,& go the "victim" route.
I just spotted this on Youtube when you right-click a video: 'statistics for nerds' to show info about the video.I just tried it on a catchy little number by Azealia Banks (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3Jv9fNPjgk&ab_channel=AzealiaBanks). It's packed with N words and there is even a nerdy homie from da 212 in the vid too (I mean he has spectacles, one of us...!).
I do understand the references to cunnilingus, etc. But what is all that stuff about eating a pear? :-DD
You will have to excuse me for a few minutes as I run a pipe cleaner thru my brain!
...Agreed, it is interesting though knowing how that disease of hyper sensitivity political correct5ness has begun to spread like a cander in the US. It looks like you cannot go anywhere in the world to get away from it.My trick to get away from it is hook up with people who work and produce something.
My trick to get away from it is hook up with people who work and produce something.
Both undelined terms have to be read in the un-undermined version of the word.
Any epithet's meaning depends on the perspective. Apparently, for some NON-Australians, calling us 'convicts' or similar is often meant as an insult, or at least derogatory in some way.I got that once from a nice old bricklayer that I affectionately called a Pom.I was told off for referring to Italians as iti's yet I am one quarter one of those and have never heard anybody getting upset about being called a Brit. Political correctness just gives some people with nothing better to do a sense of authority to go around telling people off.
Some Poms don't like being called Poms,& go the "victim" route.
He sternly replied the he'd never been a Prisoner Of Mother England like most of you Aussies forefathers were. :-DD
I only bought it up to disclose the origin of Pom or as it started out as: POME (promounced as pommie) as the convicts exported from England to Aussie were labeled.Any epithet's meaning depends on the perspective. Apparently, for some NON-Australians, calling us 'convicts' or similar is often meant as an insult, or at least derogatory in some way.I got that once from a nice old bricklayer that I affectionately called a Pom.I was told off for referring to Italians as iti's yet I am one quarter one of those and have never heard anybody getting upset about being called a Brit. Political correctness just gives some people with nothing better to do a sense of authority to go around telling people off.
Some Poms don't like being called Poms,& go the "victim" route.
He sternly replied the he'd never been a Prisoner Of Mother England like most of you Aussies forefathers were. :-DD
Ironically, for those of us Aussies who do have known genealogical ties to a convict heritage - especially if one's ancestors were "First Fleeters", then this attempted insult falls very flat, as we deem such ancestry to be worthy of some pride.
In my case, I am a double First Fleeter. (My cousins are triple First Fleeters).
The best way to defeat any type of attempted insult is to not be offended - and to actually re-interpret the epithet proudly. If the recipient of an attempted insult is not insulted, then the insulter fails.
And if it's just a joke, then everyone can laugh at it.
Any epithet's meaning depends on the perspective. Apparently, for some NON-Australians, calling us 'convicts' or similar is often meant as an insult, or at least derogatory in some way.I got that once from a nice old bricklayer that I affectionately called a Pom.I was told off for referring to Italians as iti's yet I am one quarter one of those and have never heard anybody getting upset about being called a Brit. Political correctness just gives some people with nothing better to do a sense of authority to go around telling people off.
Some Poms don't like being called Poms,& go the "victim" route.
He sternly replied the he'd never been a Prisoner Of Mother England like most of you Aussies forefathers were. :-DD
Ironically, for those of us Aussies who do have known genealogical ties to a convict heritage - especially if one's ancestors were "First Fleeters", then this attempted insult falls very flat, as we deem such ancestry to be worthy of some pride.
In my case, I am a double First Fleeter. (My cousins are triple First Fleeters).
The best way to defeat any type of attempted insult is to not be offended - and to actually re-interpret the epithet proudly. If the recipient of an attempted insult is not insulted, then the insulter fails.
And if it's just a joke, then everyone can laugh at it.
Where did mojo-chan go? Are all his posts deleted? ???https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/moderation-reports/msg751352/#msg751352 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/moderation-reports/msg751352/#msg751352)
Where did mojo-chan go? Are all his posts deleted? ???
I'm neutral about this shit, I just want to go away and be a lesson to improve this site.
- Better moderation.
- Punish personal attacks and overreacting to certain actions.
Where did mojo-chan go? Are all his posts deleted? ???If you miss him, just look around in this forum till you see a big dick.
I'm neutral about this shit, I just want to go away and be a lesson to improve this site.
- Better moderation.
- Punish personal attacks and overreacting to certain actions.
Be careful what you wish for.
I believe whoever is doing it is a misogynist using his sense of patriarchal entitlement to bash the female-identifying members of this forum with ASCII pics of his dick. He is in his sick mind actually raping them with his ultimate symbol of male power.I doubt that picture represents his Boyhood.
Sigh, I wish we had Mojo-Chan back to defend the fair maidens who must be triggered by this sick rapist misogynist scumbags ASCII art.
I believe whoever is doing it is a misogynist using his sense of patriarchal entitlement to bash the female-identifying members of this forum with ASCII pics of his dick. He is in his sick mind actually raping them with his ultimate symbol of male power.
Sigh, I wish we had Mojo-Chan back to defend the fair maidens who must be triggered by this sick rapist misogynist scumbags ASCII art.
This female can take care of herself.
I doubt that picture represents his Boyhood.Yes, I was only trying to defend your honour m'lady, what with your favourite white knight disappearing! :-DD
As for those of us who are female or as you put it "Female identified" This female can take care of herself.
This female can take care of herself.
Good for you. Assuming otherwise is pure sexism.
That's great! I wish there were more women like her.
The ASCII art isn't even that good, Wun Hung Lo are at it's worse.
Why is it when a little boy gets his feelings hurt he has to display his shortcomings?
That person should seek out a mental health professional, and get help.
On the subject of ASCII art some of the very best I have seen came over RTTY on 20 meters back in the day when RTTY was transmitted and received by a few hundred pounds of iron.
Santa and his sled and reindeer all in one long horizontal printout
must be some deserving names
OR is being a "Californian" bad enough to cover all situations?
"slap head" is an endearing UK term for a folically challenged gentleman. 😃Apparently you are correct but I've only ever heard or used it to mean a complete dork. It's probably a regional thing.
Quotemust be some deserving names
"American"
He probably meant "fuck Nixon" if it was the begin of the 70s
Septic is rhyming slang, septic tank rhymes with yank, so just like apples means stairs and ruby means curry, septic means yank. Obvious.Sssh! Your giving away the national secrets!
Septic is rhyming slang, septic tank rhymes with yank, so just like apples means stairs and ruby means curry, septic means yank. Obvious.Sssh! Your giving away the national secrets!
Septic is rhyming slang, septic tank rhymes with yank, so just like apples means stairs and ruby means curry, septic means yank. Obvious.
OR is being a "Californian" bad enough to cover all situations?
Oh I dunno, some of your girls seem quite nice, well at least back in the '80s before they turned into HFCS fat guzzling belly wheels feminazis... :-DD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GMoLENWsSk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GMoLENWsSk)
That's great! I wish there were more women like her.
There are, many. (Not trying to discount this fine lady)
Your all getting off topic here. ... The real questions is why is Wun Hung lo. Does he have big balls or something.
Your all getting off topic here. ... The real questions is why is Wun Hung lo. Does he have big balls or something.
My lest boyfriend was a geek, it was okay except between the two of us we had one work space. That was a major issue at times. It did make for strange pillow talk.That's great! I wish there were more women like her.
There are, many. (Not trying to discount this fine lady)
I don't believe you, really. My empirical experiences and external sources make me me very pessimistic about it.
But what the fuck, I'm too "cursed" in different fields of my shitty life that relationships are my minimal issue. I just "obey" a bit and try to calm her, trying to control my mad stuff and try to focus with very irregular attempts.
I don't care so much these days, I'm still "alive" and somewhat okay with my current girlfriend for nearly three years and that's a fucking extreme milestone in me.
I wish things were better at both sides, but that's life and she provides me good things to my life and not only getting crazy because my craziness.
I'm unable to be one of those alpha male bastards, despite I sometimes pose as one of these with positive results (my current gf got that false impression about me, that's one of the things what made she got attracted to me):
I love animals, specially cats.
I get amazed by kids.
I'm vegan.
I cry easily.
I'm unable to not help someone in need. Being disabled, old or asking for food.
I love to care people I love: I prepare breakfast to my gf, help her on university homework, tech repair and configuration, do massages...
But I'm too geek, unemployed, sentimental, very distracted and "lazy".Your all getting off topic here. ... The real questions is why is Wun Hung lo. Does he have big balls or something.
Maybe it was some specially twisted and war lover Chinese emperor?
Or maybe a Chinese guy that seduced thousands of women and made them pregnant with all the sperm of his giant balls.
Who knows. Must research more. But I prefer to be lazy right now.
I don't believe you, really. My empirical experiences and external sources make me me very pessimistic about it.
I think a half crazy Viet Nam vet who likes to go out ahd shoot animals and bring them home for food would be more to my liking. Someone that smells like he did an honest day's work, and still smelled like a man when he got out of the shower.
Those men are way beyond an endangered species. :(
My lest boyfriend was a geek, it was okay except between the two of us we had one work space. That was a major issue at times. It did make for strange pillow talk.That's great! I wish there were more women like her.
There are, many. (Not trying to discount this fine lady)
I don't believe you, really. My empirical experiences and external sources make me me very pessimistic about it.
But what the fuck, I'm too "cursed" in different fields of my shitty life that relationships are my minimal issue. I just "obey" a bit and try to calm her, trying to control my mad stuff and try to focus with very irregular attempts.
I don't care so much these days, I'm still "alive" and somewhat okay with my current girlfriend for nearly three years and that's a fucking extreme milestone in me.
I wish things were better at both sides, but that's life and she provides me good things to my life and not only getting crazy because my craziness.
I'm unable to be one of those alpha male bastards, despite I sometimes pose as one of these with positive results (my current gf got that false impression about me, that's one of the things what made she got attracted to me):
I love animals, specially cats.
I get amazed by kids.
I'm vegan.
I cry easily.
I'm unable to not help someone in need. Being disabled, old or asking for food.
I love to care people I love: I prepare breakfast to my gf, help her on university homework, tech repair and configuration, do massages...
But I'm too geek, unemployed, sentimental, very distracted and "lazy".Your all getting off topic here. ... The real questions is why is Wun Hung lo. Does he have big balls or something.
Maybe it was some specially twisted and war lover Chinese emperor?
Or maybe a Chinese guy that seduced thousands of women and made them pregnant with all the sperm of his giant balls.
Who knows. Must research more. But I prefer to be lazy right now.
The relationship was doomed from the start, I am too independent, and "not now honey I am thinking about a problem at work" was an issue more often than not. What do you do when you know more about your boyfriend's hobby then he does? I think a half crazy Viet Nam vet who likes to go out ahd shoot animals and bring them home for food would be more to my liking. Someone that smells like he did an honest day's work, and still smelled like a man when he got out of the shower.
Those men are way beyond an endangered species. :(
Quote from: Circuiteromalaguito link=topic=53584.msg752664#msg752664I don't believe you, really. My empirical experiences and external sources make me me very pessimistic about it.
Personal experiences are anecdotes and by their very nature as subjective and prone to personal bias as anything can get. They aren't evidence. Plus you freely admit you're quite isolated and nowhere near the centre of the normal curve when it comes to personality and how you react to things. You're not typical so most of your interactions will not be either.
Kalifornia is highly overrated It is a third world cesspit where the word freedom is considered hate speech. Southern Kalifornia is the bottom of the cesspit where all the &^it settles.
:)I think a half crazy Viet Nam vet who likes to go out ahd shoot animals and bring them home for food would be more to my liking. Someone that smells like he did an honest day's work, and still smelled like a man when he got out of the shower.
Those men are way beyond an endangered species. :(
If so, the legendary Mick Dodge is your man. He is a very charming person with a great sense of humor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o7UzYDQtmM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o7UzYDQtmM)
That would be me; sex falls fairly low on my list of priorities.My lest boyfriend was a geek, it was okay except between the two of us we had one work space. That was a major issue at times. It did make for strange pillow talk.That's great! I wish there were more women like her.
There are, many. (Not trying to discount this fine lady)
I don't believe you, really. My empirical experiences and external sources make me me very pessimistic about it.
But what the fuck, I'm too "cursed" in different fields of my shitty life that relationships are my minimal issue. I just "obey" a bit and try to calm her, trying to control my mad stuff and try to focus with very irregular attempts.
I don't care so much these days, I'm still "alive" and somewhat okay with my current girlfriend for nearly three years and that's a fucking extreme milestone in me.
I wish things were better at both sides, but that's life and she provides me good things to my life and not only getting crazy because my craziness.
I'm unable to be one of those alpha male bastards, despite I sometimes pose as one of these with positive results (my current gf got that false impression about me, that's one of the things what made she got attracted to me):
I love animals, specially cats.
I get amazed by kids.
I'm vegan.
I cry easily.
I'm unable to not help someone in need. Being disabled, old or asking for food.
I love to care people I love: I prepare breakfast to my gf, help her on university homework, tech repair and configuration, do massages...
But I'm too geek, unemployed, sentimental, very distracted and "lazy".Your all getting off topic here. ... The real questions is why is Wun Hung lo. Does he have big balls or something.
Maybe it was some specially twisted and war lover Chinese emperor?
Or maybe a Chinese guy that seduced thousands of women and made them pregnant with all the sperm of his giant balls.
Who knows. Must research more. But I prefer to be lazy right now.
The relationship was doomed from the start, I am too independent, and "not now honey I am thinking about a problem at work" was an issue more often than not. What do you do when you know more about your boyfriend's hobby then he does? I think a half crazy Viet Nam vet who likes to go out ahd shoot animals and bring them home for food would be more to my liking. Someone that smells like he did an honest day's work, and still smelled like a man when he got out of the shower.
Those men are way beyond an endangered species. :(
Who said "not now honey I am thinking about a problem at work"? I would never reject sex (but I never cheated, despite I had many opportunities) from my gf, it's usually the other way around because whatever (it's too early and want to sleep, I'm busy, I'm tired, I have a headache...).
Despite being a geek and ADHD, I have a somewhat wild personality. I cannot control easily some instincts, it's a shame at times.
A man not smelling like a man after a shower? What do you mean? Do you like sweat and tobacco smell? You're so vintage! ;)
What was his hobby? Electronics? What a moron, be should have learned harder instead. I started late and crazy, so I have an excuse.
It'll all taste like chicken, apparently?If so, the legendary Mick Dodge is your man. He is a very charming person with a great sense of humor.:)
Have him bring me home some venison, salmon and freash mint. Yummmm
That would be me; sex falls fairly low on my list of priorities.My lest boyfriend was a geek, it was okay except between the two of us we had one work space. That was a major issue at times. It did make for strange pillow talk.That's great! I wish there were more women like her.
There are, many. (Not trying to discount this fine lady)
I don't believe you, really. My empirical experiences and external sources make me me very pessimistic about it.
But what the fuck, I'm too "cursed" in different fields of my shitty life that relationships are my minimal issue. I just "obey" a bit and try to calm her, trying to control my mad stuff and try to focus with very irregular attempts.
I don't care so much these days, I'm still "alive" and somewhat okay with my current girlfriend for nearly three years and that's a fucking extreme milestone in me.
I wish things were better at both sides, but that's life and she provides me good things to my life and not only getting crazy because my craziness.
I'm unable to be one of those alpha male bastards, despite I sometimes pose as one of these with positive results (my current gf got that false impression about me, that's one of the things what made she got attracted to me):
I love animals, specially cats.
I get amazed by kids.
I'm vegan.
I cry easily.
I'm unable to not help someone in need. Being disabled, old or asking for food.
I love to care people I love: I prepare breakfast to my gf, help her on university homework, tech repair and configuration, do massages...
But I'm too geek, unemployed, sentimental, very distracted and "lazy".Your all getting off topic here. ... The real questions is why is Wun Hung lo. Does he have big balls or something.
Maybe it was some specially twisted and war lover Chinese emperor?
Or maybe a Chinese guy that seduced thousands of women and made them pregnant with all the sperm of his giant balls.
Who knows. Must research more. But I prefer to be lazy right now.
The relationship was doomed from the start, I am too independent, and "not now honey I am thinking about a problem at work" was an issue more often than not. What do you do when you know more about your boyfriend's hobby then he does? I think a half crazy Viet Nam vet who likes to go out ahd shoot animals and bring them home for food would be more to my liking. Someone that smells like he did an honest day's work, and still smelled like a man when he got out of the shower.
Those men are way beyond an endangered species. :(
Who said "not now honey I am thinking about a problem at work"? I would never reject sex (but I never cheated, despite I had many opportunities) from my gf, it's usually the other way around because whatever (it's too early and want to sleep, I'm busy, I'm tired, I have a headache...).
Despite being a geek and ADHD, I have a somewhat wild personality. I cannot control easily some instincts, it's a shame at times.
A man not smelling like a man after a shower? What do you mean? Do you like sweat and tobacco smell? You're so vintage! ;)
What was his hobby? Electronics? What a moron, be should have learned harder instead. I started late and crazy, so I have an excuse.
It'll all taste like chicken, apparently?If so, the legendary Mick Dodge is your man. He is a very charming person with a great sense of humor.:)
Have him bring me home some venison, salmon and freash mint. Yummmm
On a related note, I'm so glad winter is now over here in Oz, I hate having to wear shoes to keep my feet from becoming icy stumps.
Yankee here refers to a type of ratcheting screwdriver often used to set wood screws, where you push down on it to drive the screw in.
Yankee here refers to a type of ratcheting screwdriver often used to set wood screws, where you push down on it to drive the screw in. American ( and Canadians as well, just from the accent) are just Yanks, or tourists ( otherwise known as the mugging victim though as they often do not believe that this port city is dangerous in places).Quite right, Stanley Yankee was available in 3 sizes, rarely seen these days, been replaced by cordless drivers/drills.
No word offends me, I truly fail to see why people get so butt hurt over something so stupid. :-//Moral high standards combined with low accomplishment due to low courage and occupation leads to emtyness, frustration and jealousy.
Strange things humans, they seem to need to be derogatory to their neighbours. :-DD
i grew up in Cambridgeshire where they talked about Norfolk people being tight or mean, I move to Norfolk which is next to Cambridgeshire and they say the same about people from Lincolnshire which is the next county over.
Some other saying that I grew up with were "Bent as a nine bob note" meaning crooked but some times what is referred to as gay these days, another was "I wouldn't tie your shoe laces in front of him.
Germans were referred to as krauts Italians as ities and the Japanese as nips.
But as the bard says "if you prick us do we not bleed". We are all the same underneath but for some reason are always looking for the difference.
If any one finds this observation offensive, I do not intend it to be in any way, just trying to point out some absurdities in our nature.
My lest boyfriend was a geek, it was okay except between the two of us we had one work space. That was a major issue at times. It did make for strange pillow talk.I think that is one of the reason I never went after a 'geeky woman' (into electronics or computers). I don't like to talk about my work in social settings. It bores people to death. My wife however keeps going on and on and on about what happens at her work :blah: :blah:
Humans are not unusual in that way. Monkeys do that same and I there will be other animals too (ants IIRC).Strange things humans, they seem to need to be derogatory to their neighbours. :-DDHumans are very unusual. For some reason they form small groups and then these groups oppose each other. That is relatively speaking.
i grew up in Cambridgeshire where they talked about Norfolk people being tight or mean, I move to Norfolk which is next to Cambridgeshire and they say the same about people from Lincolnshire which is the next county over.
Some other saying that I grew up with were "Bent as a nine bob note" meaning crooked but some times what is referred to as gay these days, another was "I wouldn't tie your shoe laces in front of him.
Germans were referred to as krauts Italians as ities and the Japanese as nips.
But as the bard says "if you prick us do we not bleed". We are all the same underneath but for some reason are always looking for the difference.
If any one finds this observation offensive, I do not intend it to be in any way, just trying to point out some absurdities in our nature.
It is not just humans, some of the other primates also do the same, Chimps and Gorillas are very political in their behaviour.
There is some genetic need to form clans. Presumably it aided survival but humans have taken it to the level where it not only threatens human survival but that of the rest of the world.
Hopefully electronics which started with war but now enable global communications will turn this trend around.
...We are slowly grinding to a halt and going baclwards.In what I personally see how society behaves: Going backwards since the nineties, came to a stop after 2010, ready to go forward.
I can still buy both the original Stanley and a cloner. they have the big advantage of still working even when used all day out in the middle of nowhere with no electricity available. You supply the energy alone, so you will be a little tired, but are a lot better off than if you were using a regular screwdriver. They also are usable in EEx areas with a bronze screwdriver bit. Never seen a cordless driver that is EEx rated, they tend to be big and corded. Something about brush sparking and batteries that can spark on poor connections.......I believe that British Stanley discontinued their Yankee screwdriver, a few years after American Stanley discontinued it. The main problem with the Stanleys was their non-standard chuck, but an American Amish machinist came up with a standard 1/4" hex adapter for it. There is a good German clone on the market, that uses a 1/4" hex chuck. See http://www.garrettwade.com/improved-yankee-style-screwdrivers/p/08C03.01/ (http://www.garrettwade.com/improved-yankee-style-screwdrivers/p/08C03.01/)
but for some reason is the way humans are hardwired and has hindered and slowed much of our progress over the centuries.
It is not just humans, some of the other primates also do the same, Chimps and Gorillas are very political in their behaviour.
There is some genetic need to form clans. Presumably it aided survival but humans have taken it to the level where it not only threatens human survival but that of the rest of the world.
Hopefully electronics which started with war but now enable global communications will turn this trend around.
Animals do it for survival, we have moved well on from that to illogical behaviour. Different is to be fought, but all new ideas were different once. We are slowly grinding to a halt and going baclwards.
[sarcasm alert]Quotebut for some reason is the way humans are hardwired and has hindered and slowed much of our progress over the centuries.
On the contrary, wars and the like are big drivers in improvements. WWII gave us radar, nukes, jet aircraft, etc. Without that war those things wouldn't have been necessary and wouldn't have come along until much later (or perhaps not at all).
The cold war put us on the moon, and then gave us spy satellites (hence Google Earth, etc). Without conflict we would progress much more slowly.
I am not convinced that is always the case; I have seen animals mainly cats torture their pray for the sheer enjoyment of the act before they kill and eat them. I guess that is why I like cats so much, they are SO much like humans.See, that's why I like dogs. They are by default friendly and inquisitive. They only learn to hate cats after getting scratched on the nose when they go to greet them.
I am not convinced that is always the case; I have seen animals mainly cats torture their pray for the sheer enjoyment of the act before they kill and eat them. I guess that is why I like cats so much, they are SO much like humans.See, that's why I like dogs. They are by default friendly and inquisitive.
Quotebut for some reason is the way humans are hardwired and has hindered and slowed much of our progress over the centuries.
On the contrary, wars and the like are big drivers in improvements. WWII gave us radar, nukes, jet aircraft, etc. Without that war those things wouldn't have been necessary and wouldn't have come along until much later (or perhaps not at all).
The cold war put us on the moon, and then gave us spy satellites (hence Google Earth, etc). Without conflict we would progress much more slowly.
It was the governments willingness to throw money at these technologies in the name of defence.
If we had a different attitude...
I am not convinced that is always the case; I have seen animals mainly cats torture their pray for the sheer enjoyment of the act before they kill and eat them. I guess that is why I like cats so much, they are SO much like humans.See, that's why I like dogs. They are by default friendly and inquisitive.
They also torture other animals 'for fun.' They'll keep an animal alive much longer than they have to on a hunt or toss a still living cat around to listen to the squeals, loving every minute of it tail wagging away.
QuoteIt was the governments willingness to throw money at these technologies in the name of defence.
Exactly. And their unwillingness to do the same for pure science. Thus the war was the driver for progress.
You don't like dogs do you, Menace? You wouldn't be a postman by any chance? (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/yodel-couldnt-deliver-a-parcel-to-themselves-!/msg751127/#msg751127) ;)
Trust me we will all do the same weird shit as they do in the middle east if we have an empty stomage. It just takes one to preach hate and promise improvement if ..<whatever>.. gets killed and off you go. Americans are so good at it that they don't even need people with empty bellies.It is not just humans, some of the other primates also do the same, Chimps and Gorillas are very political in their behaviour.Animals do it for survival, we have moved well on from that to illogical behaviour.
There is some genetic need to form clans. Presumably it aided survival but humans have taken it to the level where it not only threatens human survival but that of the rest of the world.
Hopefully electronics which started with war but now enable global communications will turn this trend around.
Dogs have a lot of positive attributes My roommate is a long time dog lover, she has a pair of Chesapeake Bay Retrievers, the male is a champion in breed, the bitch didn't make champion, her body type wasn't ideal like the boy's is. She was the first of the second set of dogs to live here with me and my (now deceased cat see avatar) Cat who had the run of the house before, When my cat tried to show Spring the (Chessey Bitch) who is boss, her replay was "OH BOY GAME, and my cat had to assume Beta Status.I am not convinced that is always the case; I have seen animals mainly cats torture their pray for the sheer enjoyment of the act before they kill and eat them. I guess that is why I like cats so much, they are SO much like humans.See, that's why I like dogs. They are by default friendly and inquisitive. They only learn to hate cats after getting scratched on the nose when they go to greet them.
Also, one of my dogs is the biggest quivering wimp ever, yet is the only one that is a demon killer. The first time she saw a rat in the yard it was dead within 2 seconds with fang marks right through its neck. The next time she did this a whole pack of rats scurrying from her in the back alley. They were dispatched with no hesitation or cruelty involved. Amazing to see.
Good dog :-DD
I'm pretty proud of myself - I didn't make any posts in the thread at all (except this one). :)
There is a good German clone on the market, that uses a 1/4" hex chuck. See http://www.garrettwade.com/improved-yankee-style-screwdrivers/p/08C03.01/ (http://www.garrettwade.com/improved-yankee-style-screwdrivers/p/08C03.01/)
I'm pretty proud of myself - I didn't make any posts in the thread at all (except this one). :)
your point being ? no one is told not to post, those who can't stomach the discussion are recomended to not read and contribute. No one has offended anyone, it's been more cordial than technical discussions that descend into flame wars fast.
QuoteThere is a good German clone on the market, that uses a 1/4" hex chuck. See http://www.garrettwade.com/improved-yankee-style-screwdrivers/p/08C03.01/ (http://www.garrettwade.com/improved-yankee-style-screwdrivers/p/08C03.01/)
Nice - it is on my wish list.
So can this be used to drill holes into small plastic enclosures for circuit boards?
Even when I say I'm proud of not getting into any more arguments here I get yelled at LOL! :popcorn::popcorn:
Is it logical, does it make sense that we have to kill each other to get the urge to develop technology.
but for some reason is the way humans are hardwired and has hindered and slowed much of our progress over the centuries.
I meant we are going backwards socially.
War is the single largest waste of resources, the single largest contributor to environmental damage and much of its progress is of questionable social benefit. Unless we find a suitable alternative to war as we know it we will destroy ourselves within the lifetime of our children.QuoteIs it logical, does it make sense that we have to kill each other to get the urge to develop technology.
Of course not. But that ignores the facts: progress is given a boost during times of war. Conversely, without war we wouldn't progress at the same rate. Doesn't matter whether we like it or can think of much better ways, the facts are that war promotes progress.
That's all I'm pointing out to you because you said:Quotebut for some reason is the way humans are hardwired and has hindered and slowed much of our progress over the centuries.
And that hasn't hindered or slowed us at all - the reverse happens. Is it logical or would it make sense for use to say "Yeah yeah you hit the nail there" when, actually, you've bashed your thumb?
(if) Hawking is right we have less than a hundred to get out there and exploit what the solar system has to offer.
By now the US should have had a colony on the Moon, it would be self sustaining by now and we should be making our first plans on setting up a habitat in the interior of one of those iron asteroids. There was a faction of the anti war movement of the 60s and 70s I was a part of that wanted to see all that money used to kill women and children in far off countries used to further our exploration of space. What they are doing in the ISS should have been done in the early seventies.Quote(if) Hawking is right we have less than a hundred to get out there and exploit what the solar system has to offer.
If he is correct then we just are not going to make it in time. A millennium or two is a more realistic guess IMO.
I think the world was on shaker ground in the 60s (hight of the cold war, Cuban missile crisis, etc) then today. I can't prove it but I suspect there is a smaller percentage of people living in poverty then say 50 years ago.
Some people just need to take a pessimistic view of their life and the world, others are basically optimist.
Pessimistic says the glass is half empty.
Optimist says the glass is half full.
Scientist says the glass is never truly empty.
An engineer says the glass is twice the size required. :-+
QuoteIt was the governments willingness to throw money at these technologies in the name of defence.
Exactly. And their unwillingness to do the same for pure science. Thus the war was the driver for progress.
War has been a driver of progress because someone was put in mortal danger. Is it logical, does it make sense that we have to kill each other to get the urge to develop technology. War means money, therefore money becomes available to develop technologies that win the war and they have other uses.
But is we were not run by power and money hungry politics and attitudes we would find that perhaps we would use the money we have for war and developing technology for it just for the technology. but people don't like change, they don't want new technology that radically changes the way we do things.
I was at a low carbon vehicle event last week and found a number of stand holders agreeing with me that the main obstruction to the adoption of battery vehicles will be peoples preference for a humming combustion engine and that the petrol heads would never want a battery car that they can't soup up.
A cat on the other hand demands you earn their respect, and their love. I had one cat, a male I should have named Hannibal Lecter, the cat loved to torture his pray before eating it.
I meant we are going backwards socially. Our progress is no longer to the benefit of all, only in producing technologies that can be marketed for a price.
Again it's up to governments what they do. nothing to stop them funding development and making ure we all reap the benefit. It's our money they spend after all.
War is the single largest waste of resources, the single largest contributor to environmental damage and much of its progress is of questionable social benefit. Unless we find a suitable alternative to war as we know it we will destroy ourselves within the lifetime of our children.QuoteIs it logical, does it make sense that we have to kill each other to get the urge to develop technology.
Of course not. But that ignores the facts: progress is given a boost during times of war. Conversely, without war we wouldn't progress at the same rate. Doesn't matter whether we like it or can think of much better ways, the facts are that war promotes progress.
That's all I'm pointing out to you because you said:Quotebut for some reason is the way humans are hardwired and has hindered and slowed much of our progress over the centuries.
And that hasn't hindered or slowed us at all - the reverse happens. Is it logical or would it make sense for use to say "Yeah yeah you hit the nail there" when, actually, you've bashed your thumb?
We could turn our energy toward the stars and pursue the colonization of the Moon build habitats in asteroids that were mined for minerals and use the vast amounts of hydrocarbons in the atmospheres of the gas giants. Besides we have to start doing that soon otherwise we shall never leave this rock. Hawking is right we have less than a hundred to get out there and exploit what the solar system has to offer.
By now the US should have had a colony on the Moon, it would be self sustaining by now and we should be making our first plans on setting up a habitat in the interior of one of those iron asteroids. There was a faction of the anti war movement of the 60s and 70s I was a part of that wanted to see all that money used to kill women and children in far off countries used to further our exploration of space. What they are doing in the ISS should have been done in the early seventies.Quote(if) Hawking is right we have less than a hundred to get out there and exploit what the solar system has to offer.
If he is correct then we just are not going to make it in time. A millennium or two is a more realistic guess IMO.
I think the world was on shaker ground in the 60s (hight of the cold war, Cuban missile crisis, etc) then today. I can't prove it but I suspect there is a smaller percentage of people living in poverty then say 50 years ago.
Some people just need to take a pessimistic view of their life and the world, others are basically optimist.
Pessimistic says the glass is half empty.
Optimist says the glass is half full.
Scientist says the glass is never truly empty.
An engineer says the glass is twice the size required. :-+
I am a "The glass is always full kind of gal, what it is full of is what is really important."
Optimists tend to be that way because they have a hard time facing reality, or they feel helpless to do something about it... I get that...
I have been a cat person all my adult life, I am currently catless and have been so longer than I ever have in my life.
She hated dogs with a passion.
She never scratched up any of my furniture
I have been a cat person all my adult life, I am currently catless and have been so longer than I ever have in my life.
She hated dogs with a passion.
She never scratched up any of my furniture
Do want another female cat? I will pay for her food. She is a rescued cat that has had a ruff life and several owners. She was abandoned in El Cajon. Very very smart cat but she has no teeth (I do not know why). I guess that she is about 6 yo. She wants to be inside but lives outside because she does not like my dogs. She comes inside for breakfast and dinner and will ignore my dogs at this time.
If yes PM me.
I am lying down,watching the Football with the cat that has attached herself to me.
She really belongs to my daughter's boyfriend,but she seems to think she is "my cat"! ;D
If I was running a country I would ban religion unless somebody could come and bring me solid scientific proof of their so-called God or gods.:-DD
If I was running a country I would ban religion unless somebody could come and bring me solid scientific proof of their so-called God or gods.:-DD
You're just itching for a reason to lock this thread. :box:
:popcorn:
QuoteIt was the governments willingness to throw money at these technologies in the name of defence.
Exactly. And their unwillingness to do the same for pure science. Thus the war was the driver for progress.
I do not see yelling.I'm pretty proud of myself - I didn't make any posts in the thread at all (except this one). :)
your point being ? no one is told not to post, those who can't stomach the discussion are recomended to not read and contribute. No one has offended anyone, it's been more cordial than technical discussions that descend into flame wars fast.
Even when I say I'm proud of not getting into any more arguments here I get yelled at LOL! :popcorn:
If I was running a country I would ban religion unless somebody could come and bring me solid scientific proof of their so-called God or gods.
Cats never really belonged to anybody they choose who owns them or rather they choose who to befriend. When I lived in Italy the neighbour's son was a little shit and found this kitten which he decided was abandoned giving him the reason to bring it home. The kitten grew up to be a cat and never really liked them or their house so she would come over to us where we welcomed her and eventually she became pretty much our cat. She was extremely intelligent at first she didn't like it when we got cats of our own so we shooed her away and sprayed water at her. Then one day I came down into the garage and found her curled up with our cats. She went to run away thinking I would not want her there but I grabbed her and put her back down where she was and stroked her and soothed her and she stayed. She understood. She is the most intelligent cat I have ever known. She even worked out how to tell us she wanted her basket moving closer to the fire she would get in the basket and walk around in it and then jump out and walk over to the fireplace and now walk round in the circle. As soon as we move the basket she settled down in it. She outlived both the cats that we acquired as one was hit on the road and the other died in childbirth. The neighbour's son would come round and demand his cat Back and we would tell him it was nothing to do with us if the cat chose to come to our house and be in our garden. Eventually he gave up. Obviously we have since left and I've no idea what became of the cat despite temptation we did not take it with us as it would not have been practical at our new house and I have now since returned to the UK.That's sad.
I'm sure that cat missed us though, in southern Italy they don't treat animals very well but then it doesn't help that the church teaches them that they don't have any soul, the church is responsible for a lot of things including war not just a Christian church all religion causes wars. Groups of people do naturally tend to oppose each other having formed clans or groupings of whatever size but religion creates hardened irrational reason to fight each other. If I was running a country I would ban religion unless somebody could come and bring me solid scientific proof of their so-called God or gods.Religion in itself is not what causes wars. It's organised religion which is used to control people which is the man problem.
If I was running a country I would ban religion unless somebody could come and bring me solid scientific proof of their so-called God or gods.:-DD
You're just itching for a reason to lock this thread. :box:
:popcorn:
Well as we are having an adult debate for once hopefully nobody is going to take offence. I'm not singling out any particular religion I would just ban all of them. I have already lost enough of my life to religion through having to attend church and the bigotry of other people just to keep my grandmother happy. It was only when I was working long hours and just oversleeping on a Sunday that she stopped forcing me to go to church despite being an adult of course. She was more worried about what other people thought than what I wanted. Jehovah witnesses do not exactly have a whale of a time when they come to see me. I don't tell them to get lost I engage with them to a point where they get lost themselves because they are simply indoctrinated and have memorised things to say and standard replies to standard questions and responses. I don't have standard replies and standard questions and they quickly go because they can't handle me.
If I was running a country I would ban religion unless somebody could come and bring me solid scientific proof of their so-called God or gods.
Unfortunately every free society drifts toward a dictatorship in one form or another.If I was running a country I would ban religion unless somebody could come and bring me solid scientific proof of their so-called God or gods.
This will make you a ruler rather than a leader.
I hate vehemently people on both sides that oppose religion and science.
When you read Genesis, for example, you are not getting history or science, but 6000 years of how to divide a week and/or how to manage a project. To my own surprise, quite a lot is usefull and still valid today IF not taken litteraly. If millennia old religious book are used this way for the good of all, even as a staunch atheist, I don't see a problem.
Science should be taken a such. Cold hard truths. It uses the scientific method that many a hard core Jesuit had no problem mixing with his faith. If they can, why can't an internet commenter? Lack of education I think.
As for faith, if you have it, great for you, don't bore me with it. If you don't, great for you, don't bore me with it.
I believe that this thread, while still staying very civil, is getting too close to locking territory.
I believe that this thread, while still staying very civil, is getting too close to locking territory.
It was fun while it lasted.
I believe that this thread, while still staying very civil, is getting too close to locking territory.
It was fun while it lasted.
The laugh is Simon started it. :-DDI believe that this thread, while still staying very civil, is getting too close to locking territory.
It was fun while it lasted.
Same here, I enjoy reading it, and I appreciate the civil conduct. Mentioning religion tends to push the wrong buttons with Management.
My goodness we were being so adult for once I forgot the rules that we had to put in place for the children :box:There are a number of us who are perfectly capable of acting grown up, even on a bad day :)
The laugh is Simon started it. :-DDI believe that this thread, while still staying very civil, is getting too close to locking territory.
It was fun while it lasted.
Same here, I enjoy reading it, and I appreciate the civil conduct. Mentioning religion tends to push the wrong buttons with Management.
The clock is ticking........
Wil he? won't he?
Dave?
Seppy?
Who's the other Mod we barely/rarely see these days?
Won't stay that way if Religion is discussed OR Politics, both recipies for disaster.My goodness we were being so adult for once I forgot the rules that we had to put in place for the children :box:There are a number of us who are perfectly capable of acting grown up, even on a bad day :)
Gods or Mods :-DDGods, they don't have a "Report to Moderator" link on ANY of their posts. :box:
Won't stay that way if Religion is discussed OR Politics, both recipies for disaster.+1
Gods or Mods :-DD:popcorn:
Won't stay that way if Religion is discussed OR Politics, both recipies for disaster.+1
But forget about sports, been there done that, a disaster on a forum if you have users from opposite teams, gets real nasty quick. :palm:
One's belief in anything science, atheism or any given god is a religion. The belief in mathematics's ability to explain all of the world around us is a religion, the same with belief in one's self.
The operative word is Belief.
To borrow an old phase "Where the Rubber Meets the Road" the human element has an effect on both.One's belief in anything science, atheism or any given god is a religion. The belief in mathematics's ability to explain all of the world around us is a religion, the same with belief in one's self.
The operative word is Belief.
The difference is in the basis for belief. In science beliefs change when evidence indicates that beliefs should. The most important statement a scientist can make is "I don't know". In religion beliefs become doctrine and holding fast to doctrine becomes really important. Questioning doctrine and trying to change it is called heresy.
Same here, I enjoy reading it, and I appreciate the civil conduct. Mentioning religion tends to push the wrong buttons with Management.I believe that this thread, while still staying very civil, is getting too close to locking territory.It was fun while it lasted.
:-DDSame here, I enjoy reading it, and I appreciate the civil conduct. Mentioning religion tends to push the wrong buttons with Management.I believe that this thread, while still staying very civil, is getting too close to locking territory.It was fun while it lasted.
The new goal is now to be the last poster before this tread gets locked.
It can't contain insults, no spam, nothing implicit against the rules, no harrasment, but in any way or another has to trigger the LOCK button.
(For the ones who are still not ready to get unplugged: this is a joke)
Science is only as good as the people who do the science.
Religion is only as good as the honesty of the people preaching the religion.
The new goal is now to be the last poster before this tread gets locked.
It can't contain insults, no spam, nothing implicit against the rules, no harrasment, but in any way or another has to trigger the LOCK button.
People will always find somethig to fight and argue over. One way or the other.
I like pie.
Science is only as good as the people who do the science.
Religion is only as good as the honesty of the people preaching the religion.
I'd disagree. I'd say science is only as good as the people who do the science are honest. Religion is only as good as the ability of the followers to ignore it.
If the preachers were honest and really believed what they claim to not a single religion would have a group as tolerant as the Westboro Baptist Church. Well apart from maybe Jainism. Every other religion, including political ideologies, has it's fanatics that will happily kill for and as a direct result of their beliefs.
People will always find somethig to fight and argue over. One way or the other.
Oh no we won't