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SilverSolder:
--- Quote from: PlainName on June 10, 2023, 02:35:39 pm ---Graphics and CAD programs that treat the mouse wheel as vertical scroll.
It's dumb. It's a 1D control but there is a 2D screen to move, so what if you want to pan horizontally? The solution appears to be pressing a key as well, but now you have some movement needing a magic key and some not, and what if you really wanted to go diagonally?
The solution should be obvious: make the mouse wheel zoom in and out. With that, you can zoom and pan to wherever you want, all without any magic keys or anything, just scroll the wheel. If you need the page-analog scroll, you can add the ctrl key for vertical, shift for horizontal. That (needing a key whichever way it goes) makes more sense than sometimes needing one, and the most used option (zoom) never needs one.
Some packages let you configure the mouse wheel to however you want. I happened to try the latest Inkscape last night since someone pointed out how grown up it had got, and that doesn't let you do anything at all. You'll fart around pressing a key when you shouldn't, not when you should, moving off the bottom of the page when you meant to zoom in, and you'll bloody like it. Inkscape doesn't need to feat me using it in the near future.
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Inkscape is rather good, I agree with you about scrolling with the mouse wheel - it works for me in a browser, but not in an image or vector graphics application...
Nominal Animal:
--- Quote from: PlainName on June 10, 2023, 02:35:39 pm ---Some packages let you configure the mouse wheel to however you want. I happened to try the latest Inkscape last night since someone pointed out how grown up it had got, and that doesn't let you do anything at all.
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In Linux at least: Edit > Preferences, Behaviour, Scrolling, check Mouse wheel zooms by default.
I use a touchpad (with both horizontal and vertical two-finger scrolling), so I keep it unchecked: that way I can do two-finger panning.
All the Inkscape keyboard shortcuts are editable in Edit > Preferences, Interface, Keyboard Shortcuts.
There are a few different presets (defined in XML files), with the Inkscape default being only the default one. I have "Adobe Illustrator", "Corel Draw", "Xara", "Macromedia Freehand", and a few others in that list, but haven't tested them.
If you go through all the shortcuts, you can export the shortcut key list, which you can import in newer or older versions (and is useful to keep a copy of your personal preferred defaults).
SiliconWizard:
I have the latest release of Inkscape (1.2.2) on Linux and haven't found this option. May be configurable with the keyboard shortcuts though which is another preference tab. Haven't tried that.
But, as is relatively common in CAD apps, a combination of key + mouse wheel gets you there by default:
- Mouse wheel : pan up/down
- Shift + Mouse wheel : pan left/right
- Ctrl + Mouse wheel : zoom in/out
PlainName:
--- Quote ---But, as is relatively common in CAD apps, a combination of key + mouse wheel gets you there by default:
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Yes, exactly. It's a stupid default carried over from text viewers of various sorts. Why is panning one way with a magic key and the other way without a magic key? Illogical and user-hostile. And get the magic key mixed on and you'll be zooming instead, which shouldn't need a magic key.
But that would be fine if they let you configure it, and some devs clearly think they know better than their users.
Ed.Kloonk:
It's quite acceptable for somebody to say "There's a method to my madness"
What isn't acceptable, apparently, is to retort "How about a method without any madness (for once)."
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