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Re: Your pet peeve, technical or otherwise.
« Reply #50 on: September 06, 2020, 10:20:26 pm »
Why do some call a 1nF capacitor 1000pF or 0.001uF? Is there some "nanophobia" that I'm not understanding?
Hey.

What gets easier to pick up the heavier it gets?

A woman.
Heavier because of more fat or more muscle?
Windows has a far better/freindly gui for starters.
The surprisingly useful "always on top" button still seems to be missing from Windows. Linux had that when I started using it 20 years ago.
Cryptocurrency has taught me to love math and at the same time be baffled by it.

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Re: Your pet peeve, technical or otherwise.
« Reply #51 on: September 07, 2020, 12:28:46 am »
Linux fan boys  :palm:
Such arogant arses. Think they know everthing. Always telling everyone how better linux is better than Windows (fyi I hate all computers and operating systems with equal venom)
Sure linux has good points but it has bad points as well. It is not the best os at everything, Windows has a far better/freindly gui for starters.
Insisting that having to type long command line as part of code development is NOT better, it is complete waste of (my) time. Modern IDEs were developed for a reason - to make life easier!

Mhmm, what's worse are linux fanboys who are determined to prove their dip into the scrabble bag of commandline options is better than anyone else's

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Command line phobics. Because the winders registry is some much more superior.

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Re: Your pet peeve, technical or otherwise.
« Reply #52 on: September 07, 2020, 01:05:03 am »
Engineers, when they forget they are essentially half-assed physicists.

Managers, when they try to be half-assed engineers.
 
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« Reply #53 on: September 07, 2020, 01:10:46 am »
Many people like to say things like, "I am loving this new thing," instead of saying, "I love this new thing."

Or "I am wanting a new thing" instead of "I want a new thing."

I don't get it.
In the 2000s there was a cultural appreciation of poorly translated sentences found in video games from Japan. "All your base are belong to us" from Zero Wing, and the like. A particular feature of these Engrish utterances are a tense shift from present to imperfect ("am wanting"), which I surmise reflects differences of Japanese sentence structure. Many people found it funny, and started using these forms as an attempt at humor; others copied it, without knowing why it was humorous. This is how many language trends develop.

Japanese is very flexible when structuring sentences. There can be difficulty when translating from Japanese to English because English grammar and structure is an amalgam of languages over the centuries. Additionally, English is relatively limited in some ways, which means that for someone translating from Japanese to English there can be difficulty in reaching the exact structure that is necessary to make the sentence sound natural.

This is why it's easy to identify material translated from Russian, Chinese, Japanese, etc. that was not done by someone intuitively familiar with English.

The above expressions, "I am wanting a new thing" instead of "I want a new thing.", are a perfect place to start.

A few notes:
1. Grammar is not the same across all languages. The rules in one may not transfer exactly to the rules of another. Consider that C and Python, while they have similarities, can’t be translated exactly without significant interventional engineering.

2. Japanese writing uses English letters, Katakana (consider them to be phonetic or UPPER CASE, although that isn’t an exact way to describe it), Hiragana (consider them to be phonetic or lower case, along with completion of Kanji words or as simplified substitution of Kanji characters), and Kanji (carried over from China around 1000 years ago. They generally have several readings, such that there is a “Chinese” set of one-syllable readings, and an equivalent reading for the traditional Japanese word of the same meaning that may be multi-syllable and that will have additional Hiragana attached to it to continue the exact usage. Compare to how Greek is used in English.)

3. In general spaces aren’t necessary between words in Japanese. The delineation between words is understood in the transition between various word endings, particles, context, etc. In the Hiragana-only part I will use spaces to distinguish between the various words.

4. This post includes Japanese characters, and may not render properly if Unicode isn’t supported completely.

I will structure the examples in the form of:

Romaji = Hiragana = Kanji = Direct complete translation to English (with implied words) along with [commentary, explanation, or a long English translation in parenthesis because it's difficult to go in that direction.]

Let’s start with a verb that means, “to want”:

hoshii = ほしい = 欲しい = (I) want (that). [I want..., I want it, I am wanting it. The item that is wanted is understood by both parties. The subject is the speaker, the object is whatever is known, the verb is “to want”. It is a complete sentence from the English point of view.]

kore hoshii = これ ほしい = これ欲しい = (I) want this (thing that is closer to me). [The item “near me” is specified. Using a pronoun.]

sore hoshii = それ ほしい = それ欲しい = (I) want that (thing that is closer to you). [Now the item “near you” is specified. Using a pronoun.]

are hoshii = あれ ほしい = あれ欲しい = (I) want that (thing that is far away from us). [Now the item “far away” is specified. Using a pronoun.]

Now let’s cover another word and construction:

morau = もらう = 貰う = (I) will get/receive (it). [I will receive (from you) the thing.]

moraitai = もらいたい = 貰いたい = (I) want to get/receive (it). [The “tai” ending indicates “want to”.]

So we can also make this in the same pattern:

*hoshitai = ほしたい = 欲したい = (I) want to want (it). [While grammatically this is correct, it isn’t proper usage. It would either sound “cute” or obnoxious. Imagine a child wanting a toy, or a teenage girl wanting a fan with a picture of the latest Korean group.]

So now let’s start with a reasonable translation for "I want a new thing", however, let’s make it definite. In this case, how about a digital multimeter, or DMM, for “I want a new DMM”.

Using “hoshii”, “want”:
atarashii DMM hoshii = あたらしい DMM ほしい = 新しいDMM欲しい = (I) want (a) new DMM. [“I want a new DMM”. However, in Japanese it sounds a little immature. See the ‘hoshitai” example.]

Using “morau”, “get/receive”:
atarashii DMM wo moraitai = あたらしい DMM を もらいたい = 新しいDMMを貰いたい = (I) would like to get a new DMM. [“I want a new DMM”. For instance, the old one doesn’t have enough digits, so I want to get an HP 3458A.]

Finally, let’s cover how "I am wanting a new thing", or “I am wanting a new DMM” might translate:

Using “hoshii”, “want”:
atarashii DMM wo hosite imasu = あたらしい DMM を ほして います = 新しいDMMを欲しています = (I) am wanting a new DMM.

Using “morau”, “get/receive”:
atarashii DMM wo moraitakute imasu = あたらしい DMM を もらいたくています = 新しいDMMを貰いたくています = (I) am wanting to get a new DMM.
 
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Re: Your pet peeve, technical or otherwise.
« Reply #54 on: September 07, 2020, 05:30:55 am »
Programming language that considers double quotes and single quotes as the same, and consistency has to be maintained by programmers with opinions.

Also, "You should build me X for free to test the market, because building stuff is easy and free."
 

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Re: Your pet peeve, technical or otherwise.
« Reply #55 on: September 07, 2020, 05:50:30 am »
When people say HERT instead of HERTZ.
Like one megahert, one kilohert.
Everytime you say Hert instead of Hertz, Rudolph Hertz makes a single revoliution in his grave.
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Re: Your pet peeve, technical or otherwise.
« Reply #56 on: September 07, 2020, 06:01:07 am »
... Rudolph Hertz makes a single revoliution in his grave.
Now that's definitely a hert :-+ :popcorn:
 

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Re: Your pet peeve, technical or otherwise.
« Reply #57 on: September 07, 2020, 06:01:12 am »
Linux fan boys  :palm:

A subgroup: "it's not a bug, it's a feature" boys, where each serious defect in linux/distro/documentation/linux-related applications is "between the chair and computer". Luckily, Linus Torvalds himself has a solid opinion here; if it doesn't work, it doesn't work, and it's a bug, and should be fixed. This is why such arrogancy is rarely seen in kernel, would be nice if this would be the case in userland as well.

Also, Windows fanboys to equal degree. Surprisingly similar dynamics. If Windows crashes or is being impossible to use, the problem is always "between the chair and computer", and "I never have any problem".

Catch these "I'm always fine" guys having a problem pants down and don't let it slip through unnoticed, funny times.
 
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Re: Your pet peeve, technical or otherwise.
« Reply #58 on: September 07, 2020, 06:19:06 am »
People who call themselves "makers" and/or "hackers".

Have yet to encounter one who actually can make(i.e. design) or hack something.  Have only encountered ones who copy/mimic.

Makers: Show them a cool project that you built, they ask for layout, schematics, code.  Offer instead to explain the architecture and help them understand it and design their own, no interest, and they are likely to ask for the layout, schematics, and code again.  Refuse: They sulk away and don't talk to you anymore.  Pathetic mindset, not willing to learn, only willing to mimic and then celebrate this mimic as if it is an actual accomplishment.

Hackers: Apply someone else's instructions for "hacking" an item and declare themselves the hacker.  Worse yet, modify something that has been modified a million times over on the internet in the past, do a write up on this, and have other "hackers" celebrate their "hack".  This site "hack per day" comes to mind.  Pathetic mindset, no ingenuity, when faced with an unknown system or device to be hacked they would lose interest.

"Makers" seems to be a more recent thing, born from hordes of people who wanted to create things but were too lazy to learn how to do it on their own.  "Hackers" is another thing, this used to be a very proficient group of people which has now been diluted by mimics and by those who seem to have no understanding of what it means to "hack" something.

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Re: Your pet peeve, technical or otherwise.
« Reply #59 on: September 07, 2020, 01:48:55 pm »
... Rudolph Hertz makes a single revoliution in his grave.
Now that's definitely a hert :-+ :popcorn:

Only if he does that once in a second.
 

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Re: Your pet peeve, technical or otherwise.
« Reply #60 on: September 07, 2020, 01:52:44 pm »
I decided to restore this old radio that was laying around in the shop.
 
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Re: Your pet peeve, technical or otherwise.
« Reply #61 on: September 07, 2020, 02:55:29 pm »
Saying, or even more weirdly, writing "enään" instead of "enää" in the Finnish language. English translation would be somewhat like "anymoregh" instead of the expected "anymore".
 

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Re: Your pet peeve, technical or otherwise.
« Reply #62 on: September 07, 2020, 03:16:57 pm »
Backseat drivers.  :horse:
As easy as paint by number.
 
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Re: Your pet peeve, technical or otherwise.
« Reply #63 on: September 07, 2020, 04:50:05 pm »
Here we have a headline that reads:
Black hole 142 times heavier than the Sun discovered
and further along in the article we read
GW190521 weighs in at 142 times the mass of our Sun

https://alkhaleejtoday.co/international/5038560/Black-hole-142-times-heavier-than-the-Sun-discovered.html

Which is of course, plainly contradictory.
If it were 142 times heavier than our sun it would be 143 times the mass of our sun, not 142. This kind of thing seems to be popping up more and more lately.

What other things are there?
I think that they pull the numbers out of a hat ..
  This only happened   Seven Billion Years ago   . Some what old news  :-DD
     It may only have the mass of a pea now .
       that's about twice the size of all there brains combined .

 I don't see how you can measure the mass of something that one does not know what
 it is made up of for sure .  They think they know because they get paid to come up
 with an answer to account for all the time and money they spent on research etc.
   So it's a large jelly with a hole in the middle . Prove me wrong .
       with valid samples only .
      I can wait 14 billion years for the answer.   ( 1 round trip )

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Re: Your pet peeve, technical or otherwise.
« Reply #64 on: September 07, 2020, 05:54:36 pm »
Just a thought experiment for the OPs interpretation of mass ratios.

So I have a one kg weight, and another that is 142 times as heavy.  By the OPs logic this second weight comes in at 143 kg

Lets try one that is twice as heavy.  3 kg. 

Now 1.5 times as heavy.  2.5 kg.

Now 1.001 times as heavy.  2.001 kg.

You apparently can't do ratios for masses that are close to the original mass.

I'll stick with the news stories interpretation.  I think nearly identical masses do exist and need a way to be described as a ratio.
 

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« Reply #65 on: September 07, 2020, 06:16:33 pm »
Just a thought experiment for the OPs interpretation of mass ratios.

So I have a one kg weight, and another that is 142 times as heavy.  By the OPs logic this second weight comes in at 143 kg

Lets try one that is twice as heavy.  3 kg.   .. 1 + 1 = 3    :-DD  Just love your Maths .

Now 1.5 times as heavy.  2.5 kg.

Now 1.001 times as heavy.  2.001 kg.

You apparently can't do ratios for masses that are close to the original mass.

I'll stick with the news stories interpretation.  I think nearly identical masses do exist and need a way to be described as a ratio.
You forgot to add the cream topping into the equation
 Mass is only heavy if it has Gravity  .
  You will have to check your fingers or buy a calculator
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Re: Your pet peeve, technical or otherwise.
« Reply #66 on: September 07, 2020, 07:03:42 pm »
Overtaking me and slowing down for no apparent reason while the road is clear ahead.

Toilet paper roll inserted in the wrong direction!
 
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Re: Your pet peeve, technical or otherwise.
« Reply #67 on: September 07, 2020, 07:08:05 pm »
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Toilet paper roll inserted in the wrong direction!

I blame Benjamin Franklin for that one.
 

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« Reply #68 on: September 07, 2020, 07:31:34 pm »
Toilet paper roll inserted in the wrong direction!

Ah, but what is the "right" direction?  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet_paper_orientation
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« Reply #69 on: September 07, 2020, 09:41:25 pm »
Just a thought experiment for the OPs interpretation of mass ratios.

So I have a one kg weight, and another that is 142 times as heavy.  By the OPs logic this second weight comes in at 143 kg

Lets try one that is twice as heavy.  3 kg.   .. 1 + 1 = 3    :-DD  Just love your Maths .

Now 1.5 times as heavy.  2.5 kg.

Now 1.001 times as heavy.  2.001 kg.

You apparently can't do ratios for masses that are close to the original mass.

I'll stick with the news stories interpretation.  I think nearly identical masses do exist and need a way to be described as a ratio.
You forgot to add the cream topping into the equation
 Mass is only heavy if it has Gravity  .
  You will have to check your fingers or buy a calculator

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« Reply #70 on: September 07, 2020, 09:46:50 pm »
By the way I think the original posters problem stems from confusion with the construction "Object A weighs X again as much as Object B" which does mean something quite different from "Object A weighs X times as much as Object B".  The first form is usually used with fractional values for X, while the news article clearly used the second form and a large integer.
 

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Re: Your pet peeve, technical or otherwise.
« Reply #71 on: September 07, 2020, 09:52:47 pm »
When people say HERT instead of HERTZ.
Like one megahert, one kilohert.
Everytime you say Hert instead of Hertz, Rudolph Hertz makes a single revoliution in his grave.

Or maybe he makes a single cycle in his grave.
 

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« Reply #72 on: September 07, 2020, 09:54:59 pm »
oh I've got a good one. One thing is people who empty lab/shop consumables and dont restock. The worst is people who leave a microscopic amount, so that they wont be the one emptying the thing.

I even do it to myself sometimes. It must be a deep seated glitch of the human psyche
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Re: Your pet peeve, technical or otherwise.
« Reply #73 on: September 07, 2020, 10:11:40 pm »
Just a thought experiment for the OPs interpretation of mass ratios.

So I have a one kg weight, and another that is 142 times as heavy.  By the OPs logic this second weight comes in at 143 kg
No. I would call that one 142kg. 142x1
If it was 142 times heavier it would be 143kg.  1+(142x1)
 

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