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steviefaux:
I'm new but been watching Dave for years. I know this won't be electronics related but, assuming Dave's been hit with these before I was hoping for friendly advice.

Luckily, I took Dave's advice and linked my YouTube account with Lbry so everything is uploaded to both. The background to this store starts last year. I'm in the UK. Came across a parking enforcement website for some reason. While looking through it I was horrified to find it was HTTP only, they had no SSL cert at all yet expected people to fill in these forms to dispute their tickets.

So, I took fiddler, filled in the forms and watched as the data was being passed over the net in plain text, ready to be intercepted by anyone. So I screen recorded all these issues because they had no visible e-mail address to report this. Not to mentioned, because we were in the EU at the time and still now are required to follow GDPR, the whole site and the main company site breaches GDPR. The whole site really does look like it was created by a student just learning HTML, but that's not the point.

Anyway. A year later and the company involved has decided to flag my video on YouTube with a copyright strike. Surely this is malicious. How can you claim copyright on me recording myself browsing a website? There is no commentary over it, now I wish I had then I can say fair dealing if anything. But surely you can't claim copyright on a video of a user browsing your website? This has clearly been done to hide their GDPR breaches and poor security. My e-mail address is on my YouTube channel, all they had to do was e-mail it, inform me they've now purchased a certificate and that the site is more secure (the main company site isn't. It still points the the HTTP version on a Google search)

So was hoping someone might know what I claim when sending the counter notification. I've already attempted once and YouTube rejected it (which is odd as the whole point of their system is they aren't supposed to be involved legally, so why do they moderate the the counter notifications, as that is getting involved legally).

Thankfully we have Lbry and the video in full is still available there.

Hopefully this thread doesn't annoy anyone.
Fixpoint:

--- Quote from: steviefaux on September 17, 2020, 12:37:39 pm ---So was hoping someone might know what I claim when sending the counter notification.

--- End quote ---

Well ... without knowing the concrete details, it is difficult to give any concrete advice. If you just recorded yourself browsing a commonly available website, without any copyrighted material being used, then I am pretty sure there is no copright violation, but how could I know what you should tell YouTube? I don't even know what you told them and why they rejected your statement.

However, there is one thing: lawyers try many dirty tricks, and so you can try to fight them off even before they get started. Using commentary on your video always helps because then you can claim that you are not USING any copyrighted material but that you are COMMENTING on it. That is actually a difference legally.
steviefaux:
I didn't want to put a link in my first post in case I got a rollocking but here it is on Lbry

https://lbry.tv/@Stevenwhiting:e/parking-enforcement-agency-parkshield:3

Fixpoint:
I don't have experience with YouTube copyright strikes and don't know what you did. So, I can only say what I would have done. I would have requested to reinstate the video and referred to YouTube's Fair Use policy. You can read about it here:

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9783148?hl=en

On this page, there are also links to the Fair Use FAQ and the Copyright Troubleshooter (on the right). Maybe they are still processing your request?
magic:
There was similar thread here when Ericsson tried to shut down somebody who posted teardowns of their gear. Try to find it.
IIRC the general conclusion was that the system is rigged against you, unless you are willing to go to court over that or credibly able to produce highly negative PR >:D
Ericsson appeared to have come to their senses under a growing threat of the latter.

Also, I'm sure there are ways to report them to authorities if they actually do something illegal.
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