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Youtube-dl front end
Halcyon:
--- Quote from: eti on December 13, 2022, 07:52:00 am ---“yt-dlp” is a superior version of “youtube-dl”. I forget the specific reason I downloaded and started using it about a year and a half ago, suffice to say it was much better at whatever I was doing.
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It doesn't suffer from the speed issues that youtube-dl seems to suffer from whenever YouTube decides to break it's support. Last time I checked, youtube-dl would only download at 70KB/sec for me.
I also found that yt-dlp supports more content providers.
wilfred:
I just downloaded yt-dlp and it solved the slow download speeds I had been getting for a while (year?) with Youtube-dl. I was getting ~50kb/s. The test I just did was at my full internet speed.
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I've used youtube-dl for quite a few years now I recommend it and now will consider recommending yt-dlp. I've only ever used the command-line. Some podcasts that don't normally provide an mp3 download are made available on yt and with youtube-dl I download them and extract the audio. you need to have ffmpeg available for the extraction though.
magic:
You don't.
With youtube-dl, get familiar with the -F / -f flags, other downloaders may have similar functionality.
Lets you choose which stream(s) to download, and there are many alternative streams available: some audio only, some video only, some combined, different formats, quality and so on.
You can even download MP4 video and Vorbis audio and combine them in MKV if that's what you want, although then you will need ffmpeg for the merge.
MP3 generally is not available on YouTube, but on most videos you can choose M4A (AAC), Vorbis or Speex. They are all better codecs and hopefully you have something that can play at least a few of them.
AndyBeez:
On the legality side, I think what you guys are discussing is under the heading of "fair usage". I was reminded to think of a famous case that defined the status of the home video recorder. In 1984, Universal Studios argued that the act of timeshifting television programmes on Sony's new fangled Betamax video recorder was a breach of copyright... Instead:
--- Quote ---Sony Corp. of America v. Universal City Studios, Inc., 464 U.S. 417 (1984), also known as the “Betamax case”, is a decision by the Supreme Court of the United States which ruled that the making of individual copies of complete television shows for purposes of time shifting does not constitute copyright infringement, but is fair use. The Court also ruled that the manufacturers of home video recording devices, such as Betamax or other VCRs (referred to as VTRs in the case), cannot be liable for contributory infringement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Corp._of_America_v._Universal_City_Studios,_Inc.
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Wind on 40 years and the notion of fair usage seems to still apply to any content that is 'time-shifted' to be viewed on any device at a later date - provided downloading is for non-profit and non-commercial use. Although the lawyers might want to beat each other up when it comes to format shifting (FFMPEG) ripped content to view on other 'unsupported' devices and, place shifting ripped content off of local hard drives to iCloud, for example.
With Youtube-dl, provided it is intended as a means of time shifting content on the Youtube platform, it should fall inside the notion of fair usage as defined four decades ago in the Betamax Case.
Halcyon:
--- Quote from: AndyBeez on December 13, 2022, 11:58:25 am ---With Youtube-dl, provided it is intended as a means of time shifting content on the Youtube platform, it should fall inside the notion of fair usage as defined four decades ago in the Betamax Case.
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Pretty much, although there are always nuances to consider whenever you're dealing with these kind of laws and of course it takes a while for laws to catch up with technology. But this is also why no one has been found guilty of simply downloading video from the internet in Australia.
However once you cross the line into unauthorised access, downloading of illegal material, or sharing/distributing, that's a whole other game.
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