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Youtube "how to" videos are mostly useless

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tggzzz:

--- Quote from: Mechatrommer on March 21, 2024, 02:39:07 pm ---
--- Quote from: tggzzz on March 21, 2024, 02:06:21 pm ---Can you explain what you mean by "your advice is only valid before the internet"?

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:palm: when books and printed materials are the only source of references. granted at the beginning of internet there were only texts exist, but the trend is shifting... until the age of youtube. if you want to limit your choice to printed materials only, then thats your choice, and anybody on your side. we taught kids to take advantages of any type of materials in front of them. but for proper education, yes its still books with established knowledges in it... better for kids to watch sort of education materials in youtube than playing some "claim your chicks" game in the phone. its inevitable. duh why i have to typing all this? maybe because i dont have better things to do than postings in GC :palm:

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OK, that's a little more comprehensible and reasoned.

The only problem with your contention is that most of the "educational" stuff on yoootoob is - to be charitable - of very poor educational value.

You seem to think I don't value videos, despite my explicit statements that I do value some videos. What I - and others - object to is that objectively poor quality stuff is too easily circulated via clickbait tactics, and that makes it very time consuming to find good video.

But hey, if you don't value your time and are content to fritter away your life on yoootoob, then at least is stops you doing anything more harmful.

To mutilate the lyrics from Pink Floyd's "Time"...

  Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day
  You fritter and waste the hours in an offhand way
  Kicking around on a piece of ground in your hometown yootoob
  Waiting for someone or something to show you the way

Hope the emphasis helps your comprehension.

pdenisowski:

--- Quote from: IanB on March 21, 2024, 03:02:09 pm ---One thing to mention about the difference between magazines and YouTube videos, is that magazines have editors to curate the content and maintain quality standards

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As someone who was in grad school when I first heard the word "Internet," that's an interesting and in many ways a very appropriate analogy :)

But imagine that instead of having a newsstand with 40-50 professionally published and edited magazines, you shared that newsstand with 400-500 self-published "zines" (remember those?), some of which had great information that you couldn't get elsewhere, and some of which were total garbage.  They also aren't well-organized into categories and only a few of them have a cover that lists what's on the inside.

Oh, and they are all free :)

I spend a good amount of my work day creating content that appears (among other places) on YouTube, so I'm all too aware of the challenges of finding concise, clear, and accurate technical information.  No idea how to solve that problem - sorry :)

Incidentally, one of the things I love about Germany is how many magazines are still being published compared to the United States.  I'm amazed that even the smallest Buchhandlung sometimes has half a dozen magazines on a single hobby (model trains, chess, horses, etc.)

IanB:

--- Quote from: pdenisowski on March 21, 2024, 03:55:57 pm ---But imagine that instead of having a newsstand with 40-50 professionally published and edited magazines, you shared that newsstand with 400-500 self-published "zines" (remember those?), some of which had great information that you couldn't get elsewhere, and some of which were total garbage.
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Ah yes, the monthly bulletins you would subscribe to, that would come in the mail, typewritten and photocopied, each one containing interesting technical news, "how-to's" and other content of interest. Publications like the "TI calculators owners club".

soldar:

--- Quote from: pdenisowski on March 21, 2024, 01:53:00 pm ---Absolutely.  Even though I taught classes for years and have given hundreds of in-person presentations, I don't ever try to "wing it" when I record videos.

My usual method is to record the whole thing straight through, backing up a sentence or two every time I make a mistake (and I make lots of mistakes).  I then go back and cut out the "bad parts".  No fancy editing skills necessary - just select the parts that I messed up and hit "delete" :)
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I suppose with a little practice you can edit quite fast. It would take me forever.  Steve Lehto must do the same thing but alsoyou hardly notice the cuts because the video is transitioned over a few frames and he is sitting still facing the camera so it is just a bit of blurring. And you cannot notice anything in the audio stream. I suppose with a bit of practice and the right software you can move forward quickly.

It is not only the content that is important but also the quality of the video and audio.

There is a guy who has a channel in Spanish and he does videos which are just unbelievable. He will record a 20 or 30 or 40 minute video outdoors, by the beach, in the wind, in one single take, with perfect audio and video. He is moving, walking, sitting, turning and delivers a long monologue without a hitch. I assume he had a very good cameraman but I have no idea if he can memorize the entire thing and if he just keeps doing it until he gets the entire thing right. In the technical aspect that channel is just amazing. I suppose professional actors also need to memorize their lines but I find it amazing. The guy can talk about a movie, a book, a character from Greek mythology and you know he is not improvising because the entire speech is just perfect. I guess that is what a true pro can do but I find it amazing when broadcast TV, where they have more means, is much lower quality. This guy is someone doing it for the LOLs and who says he does not want monetary support. Once in a while he will say something like "As you know I do not ask for monetary support; if you like what I do and would like to do something then get on the phone and call your mother or someone you know is lonely and tell them you love them and you care".  I find his videos not only interesting in their subject matter but also impressive in their technical quality. Some things which may seem like defects are actually designed that way and you can see he repeats them in many videos. Every tiny detail is planned and designed that way. A perfect product done just for the pleasure of doing it. A very rare thing these days. As I say, the channel is in Spanish (even though the guy ran away and lives in Cyprus) but if anybody is curious, you can see his videos iXc5PYH04F0 , 7HyaiL5nwlo , gK_Cll61G-c , _mDsPCkNP-A , They are quite representative of some of his work.

Mechatrommer:

--- Quote from: IanB on March 21, 2024, 03:02:09 pm ---I think maybe you are missing what life was like in the 1960's, 70's and 80's? There was a "YouTube" back then, but it took a different form, and that form was magazines (not textbooks). Newsagent shelves were full of monthly magazines all all conceivable subjects, with several titles covering electronics. Every child who wanted to learn would be buying these magazines.

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even though i didnt live in 60 or 70, but i think i got the idea about "YouTube" back then. and i have hundreds of magazines here in form of pdf... and i remember buying magazines sports etc while i was very young. and i have full rack of books of real knowledges just back there. and i still add new collection bought from online stores. i only dig them when i want to revisit some real knowledge esp involving math and theories... half of my lifetime is without computer. but things like how to repair smartphones, how to make "floating" desk etc, i thankfull there is internet/youtube right now.

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