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Youtube "how to" videos are mostly useless
tggzzz:
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--- Quote from: tggzzz on March 22, 2024, 11:47:46 am ---
--- Quote from: 5U4GB on March 22, 2024, 11:14:37 am ---And then there are also a ton of howto videos like this, Russian Roulette via Table Saw (trigger warning for woodworkers), which demonstrate pretty much everything you can do wrong when using one.
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Ah yes, the excuse being "I haven't had any problems therefore it is OK".
That happens too often on this forum, my triggers being floating scopes and using solderless breadboards :(
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I'm with you on floating scopes, but its fairly difficult to kill yourself with a solderless breadboard . . .
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I've an example where using one might cause an innocent bystander to want to kill you :)
soldar:
--- Quote from: coppice on March 22, 2024, 12:06:06 pm --- That reflects more on Google than on Youtube. That Google search didn't only get you a lot of dodgy Youtube videos. It got you a variety of non-video junk too. 10 years ago a Google search was a pretty effective way to find things. Now its complete garbage. They improved i a bit over the low point maybe 5 years ago, but they seem incapable of undoing the damage they have done.
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Youtube IS Google. In October 2006, YouTube was bought by Google for $1.65 billion. They are one and the same.
Google's search logarithm has evolved over time and gotten better in some ways, sort of like using AI to guess what might be what you are looking for, so it might work if you have a very vague idea, but it has gotten worse if you are looking for something more precise and you get suggestions for things that are only very distantly related.
But the worst search logarithm of all time has to be Amazon. You can search for something with very precise words and get all results which do not include those words and are not even related. I have no idea what reasoning is behind this. But that is another rant for another day.
EBay's search engine is not bad in general terms.
soldar:
--- Quote from: Ian.M on March 22, 2024, 12:21:13 pm ---I'm with you on floating scopes, but its fairly difficult to kill yourself with a solderless breadboard . . .
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Idea for YouTube video: how to cure upset stomach by swallowing a solderless breadboard. The secret they do not want you to know!
coppice:
--- Quote from: soldar on March 22, 2024, 04:33:24 pm ---
--- Quote from: coppice on March 22, 2024, 12:06:06 pm --- That reflects more on Google than on Youtube. That Google search didn't only get you a lot of dodgy Youtube videos. It got you a variety of non-video junk too. 10 years ago a Google search was a pretty effective way to find things. Now its complete garbage. They improved i a bit over the low point maybe 5 years ago, but they seem incapable of undoing the damage they have done.
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Youtube IS Google. In October 2006, YouTube was bought by Google for $1.65 billion. They are one and the same.
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WOW. That's amazing. I had absolutely no idea. I thought it was November 2006.
These two businesses may both be part of the same Alphabet soup, but they function very differently when you search.
--- Quote from: soldar on March 22, 2024, 04:33:24 pm ---Google's search logarithm has evolved over time and gotten better in some ways, sort of like using AI to guess what might be what you are looking for, so it might work if you have a very vague idea, but it has gotten worse if you are looking for something more precise and you get suggestions for things that are only very distantly related.
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I don't know what Google looks like when you use it. It presents itself very differently to different people who are logged in. They've been doing politically motivated searches for quite a long time. The Arab spring highlighted this, with some truly bizarre search results. Something like 5 years ago it descended from there to utter garbage, in ways that were clearly as politically motivated as their recent Gemini screw up. They seem to have been struggling to retreat from that ever since. Not all that successfully. Whether I look for something very specific, or search with a vague idea of what I am looking for, its still very bad.
Buriedcode:
--- Quote from: nctnico on March 22, 2024, 10:19:39 am ---
--- Quote from: Buriedcode on March 22, 2024, 04:36:44 am ---This thread is very reminiscent of an Eti thread.
I don't like x. I expect x to do this. but x doesn't do this, and people should make x do this for me.
Viewing youtube videos is optional. And if you are complaining that many - perhaps most - are "useless" to you then I'm not sure what you expect anyone to do about it - or care.
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I disagree. The article tggzzz posted matches my own experience. There is a lot of fake AI generated content on Youtube. For example, I'm looking for a new bench DMM at the moment. When going on Youtube to find reviews, the results are swamped with videos called '5 best bench multimeters'. None of those videos is real as in somebody went through the trouble of actually reviewing 5 multimeters. It is just chat GPT selecting 5 random DMMs and repeating the manufacturer's marketing wank. In the end those videos are just useless noise and Youtube should do something about it.
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So you found out that youtube reviews aren't particularly reliable. Surely its been that way for the past 5 years? My point was, youtube has never really been a reliable source of "good" information, and I'm surprised people are only now coming to realise this. Just like everything on the internet, since the bar for posting content/opinions/views/reviews is so low, its diluted so the price we pay for the convenience of having access to vast amounts of free information is that one has to sift through a lot of crap. Nothing wrong with watching youtube videos, but it seems the OP was complaining that they spent lots of their time wathcing them - then complaining that they weren't what he wanted. Surely the simple answer is.. don't watch them?
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