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Youtube "how to" videos are mostly useless

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coppice:

--- Quote from: tggzzz on March 19, 2024, 03:16:49 pm ---
--- Quote from: coppice on March 19, 2024, 03:13:40 pm ---
--- Quote from: tggzzz on March 19, 2024, 03:10:28 pm ---That's exacerbated by the video medium: it takes me 15s to scan text before ignoring it, but 15 minutes with video. 60:1 is a killer.

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That's not really an issue of the medium. Its mostly the choice of the author, looking to keep you viewing. Few videos make a clear statement up front about what's to come. while most lengthy text has a contents page up front.

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Most articles and videos contain a couple of thousand words. That's not lengthy when speed reading (30s) but is when watching (30mins).

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I think it really comes back to what I said. A 2000 word article probably doesn't have a contents page, but it probably does have some bold section headings that are quick to scan. Effective videos give you a good outline in the first 30s, but that massively cuts total viewing time, and potential revenue. There are perverse incentives at work.

IanB:

--- Quote from: coppice on March 19, 2024, 03:04:17 pm ---If learning from books was so great, why would people spend a fortune to learn from lectures in colleges?
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Well, probably they shouldn't spend a fortune. Especially in the USA, college fees are way too high.

But putting that aside, I think you are paying to know what to learn and to have a structured learning experience, and have the incentive to complete the program, as well as access to tutors and teachers to ask questions. How often have you read a book, and thought "Hey, I don't quite get this, I would like to ask the author a question about it."

coppice:

--- Quote from: IanB on March 19, 2024, 03:33:52 pm ---But putting that aside, I think you are paying to know what to learn and to have a structured learning experience, and have the incentive to complete the program, as well as access to tutors and teachers to ask questions. How often have you read a book, and thought "Hey, I don't quite get this, I would like to ask the author a question about it."

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Sounds like you want a private tutor, not a college course.

IanB:

--- Quote from: coppice on March 19, 2024, 03:40:03 pm ---Sounds like you want a private tutor, not a college course.

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I can tell you with absolute certainty that my undergraduate engineering degree was essential. There is no possibility that it could have been replaced with book learning or watching YouTube videos (even if YouTube had existed back then).

tggzzz:

--- Quote from: coppice on March 19, 2024, 03:25:23 pm ---
--- Quote from: tggzzz on March 19, 2024, 03:16:49 pm ---
--- Quote from: coppice on March 19, 2024, 03:13:40 pm ---
--- Quote from: tggzzz on March 19, 2024, 03:10:28 pm ---That's exacerbated by the video medium: it takes me 15s to scan text before ignoring it, but 15 minutes with video. 60:1 is a killer.

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That's not really an issue of the medium. Its mostly the choice of the author, looking to keep you viewing. Few videos make a clear statement up front about what's to come. while most lengthy text has a contents page up front.

--- End quote ---

Most articles and videos contain a couple of thousand words. That's not lengthy when speed reading (30s) but is when watching (30mins).

--- End quote ---
I think it really comes back to what I said. A 2000 word article probably doesn't have a contents page, but it probably does have some bold section headings that are quick to scan. Effective videos give you a good outline in the first 30s, but that massively cuts total viewing time, and potential revenue. There are perverse incentives at work.

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A clear statement would be welcome. I'm sure you are familiar with "Tell them what you are going to say. Say it. Tell them what you have told them"

But that requires the look-at-me-merchants to have planned, in which case they would also avoid ums and ahs, and realise they haven't got anything worth saying.

Summary: not going to happen.

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