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Offline edyTopic starter

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YouTube New Copyright Matches Found
« on: August 30, 2020, 01:56:58 pm »
Hi folks,

I'm not sure if Dave has experienced this before but for the first time I have received a "New Copyright Matches Found" notification on my YouTube channel. When I clicked on the link I ended up on a page that listed a whole bunch of videos that are either using parts of my videos or completely ripping off 100% of the content (copied the full video to their channel).

Any advice as to what to do with this? I noticed that to submit a copyright claim I have to fill out a form with my full information, and there is a bunch of legal statements and checkboxes. I don't want the copyright infringer to get too much of my personal information either. What do you do with these guys? Should I send a message to the channel owner first and tell them to take down the video, or use YouTube's copyright claim system?

The concern is that people searching for content will see their channel's video instead of mine, hence affecting my revenues. Second issue is that I don't really want to waste time and money on legal representation. Worse case scenario is they fight it and I give up and they keep the video up? I mean it is straight outright copying of my entire video from start to end. I assume some guys decided to make channels that are just featuring a mix of other content they procure (steal) from other YouTube creators.

Advice?

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Re: YouTube New Copyright Matches Found
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2020, 05:50:08 pm »
I've run into this as well but haven't done anything with it for much the same reason.  If I were attempting to draw an income from the channel I may aggressively go after them and start watermarking my videos. 


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Re: YouTube New Copyright Matches Found
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2020, 07:19:10 pm »
I'm not really making much of an income either and don't care so much. I worry about starting to bicker over these things at this point because it would make a trivial difference to me and I'm worried that it will start some kind of "copyright" war with retaliatory frivolous complaints. I guess it's a sign of some level of success? If you get copied it means you are worth being copied? :-//   For now I'll monitor things and see where they go. There is a good chance either way if someone searches for a topic my video will pop up before theirs anyways because I have way more views at this point than they do. I guess it depends if it is a big popular channel or some little startup that is barely being seen.

Water-marking sounds like a good idea but that means I have to run it through my video-editing program so it completely re-encodes each video. Sometimes I just use it raw in a single edit from my camera, it makes it way easier and faster to upload. But I don't see any way around it other than sticking  a watermark. Then the copier will have to either blur it out or crop it out, extra work for them.
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Re: YouTube New Copyright Matches Found
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2020, 07:29:34 pm »
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Worse case scenario is they fight it and I give up and they keep the video up?

They get to do that anyway if you don't fight it.

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I noticed that to submit a copyright claim I have to fill out a form with my full information, and there is a bunch of legal statements and checkboxes
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Arse covering for YouTube, in case you're pulling a fast one just to piss off some legitimate user.

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I don't want the copyright infringer to get too much of my personal information either.

Don't know about this but YouTube should have some indication of what they will send to the infringer.

Bearing in mind I don't do YouTube videos, if you go the YouTube forms route they will presumably send a cease & desist notice to the infringer, which should provoke some second thoughts by them. Regardless, YouTube will probably taking down the videos so you won't have to get the infringer to actively unfringe. The infringer will need to convince YouTube that they have a legitimate usage to get the videos back up, so it's them that will be initiating lawyer fees if they feel that strongly. At that point you can revert back to the status quo and give up without cost.
 

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Re: YouTube New Copyright Matches Found
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2020, 07:43:27 pm »
Based on comments by YouTubers about having no idea who submitted infringement claims that they've received, it seems that the information you put into the forms to Google/YouTube are for internal use and paper trail purposes. Notifications to infringers seem to be very light on information (much to the chagrin of those who'd like to work out the issue directly with the report submitter).

Even if you're not making a bunch of money on your videos, you should protect it from infringers in order not to lose traffic. If someone else draws away significant traffic from your videos, it can cause confusion and the copies may begin to appear legitimate.

You made the videos and you should ensure that it remains clear that they're yours. Even if money isn't at stake, it'd be a shame for you to end up having your videos taken down due to some unscrupulous person claiming that you're the infringer.
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Re: YouTube New Copyright Matches Found
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2020, 09:30:58 pm »
I noticed that most of the copyright infringements (~55 videos) were posted as far back as 2018... and this is the first time I've seen a notification. Did YouTube upgrade their algorithms or decide they have the computing power to scan every channel video now to look for matches? Or did my channel meet some kind of "flag" that now YouTube cares to scan it for?

I decided to send a Standard removal request to 9 videos which were basically 100% ripped copies that were on a handful of channels. These videos were unboxing or repair videos, or reviews of certain technologies. Some were even including the original audio too.

There were another 45 or so videos that people used portions of (or overlaid) in their videos (10-20%) mostly because I rendered some deep zoom fractals. For example, here are a couple of my deep zoom Mandelbrot fractal videos that I rendered a while back:





...and here you can see this guy (who has used my mandelbrot zoom in lots of his videos) talking about some conspiracy stuff around 3:30 mark it starts...



...and then there are also a bunch of music videos that used it, for example...




I'm not concerned about the Mandelbrot, I am happy to share that with the world and the infringing videos are also using small portions of it and being creative with it. But when someone just rips a video completely 100% and posts exactly the same thing on another channel it is a waste of YouTube resources, is dishonest to viewers and also doesn't allow me to reply to comments for users who may want to know more about the video.

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Re: YouTube New Copyright Matches Found
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2020, 11:28:24 pm »
I think you have a balanced view toward it and that's a good thing. Ultimately, you're the rights holder and can grant or deny use as you deem appropriate.
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