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ataradov:
--- Quote from: Nominal Animal on October 18, 2023, 05:49:49 am ---that is the price I pay for using their services.
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And you decided that this is enough of a payment. Google disagrees.
It is like saying "I can steal tomatoes from the store, I'm already paying for bread".
MK14:
--- Quote from: ataradov on October 18, 2023, 05:54:22 am ---
--- Quote from: Nominal Animal on October 18, 2023, 05:49:49 am ---that is the price I pay for using their services.
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And you decided that this is enough of a payment. Google disagrees.
It is like saying "I can steal tomatoes from the store, I'm already paying for bread".
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Let's say, I go to the store and buy a loaf of bread.
I'm expecting to get a free bag to carry it home in (in the past, they now charge for them, by law in the UK, these days), free/easy parking at the store, free staff access to ask about the bread instore, and checkout staff to process it for me.
Free wi-fi (maybe, while on location), free lighting, heating, air-conditioning in store.
Free basic defence and policing, via their security guards. E.g. an aggressive drunk is being ejected from the store.
No processing fees on any credit card used.
Free store card voucher points, for exchange for 'free' or heavily discounted items, when enough points have accumulated.
Free music instore.
Toilets and maybe other free facilities, kept clean with running hot-water, free toilet paper.
In some cases, or in the past, you could actually get another loaf of bread, for free (buy-one-get-one-free, special offer).
So maybe steal is the wrong term and/or if you swap those tomatoes for other items, then the things would indeed be 'free'.
ataradov:
None of this is free, it is included in the price. And by no means you are entitled to any of this. You may not shop there anymore if you don't like the experience, but that's a different story.
But I don't see how this is related to the topic.
Even if Google wronged you in some other way, it does not mean you can do anything in return. If you think they stole your data and benefited from it - complain to the appropriate authorities.
MK14:
--- Quote from: Nominal Animal on October 18, 2023, 05:49:49 am ---The fact that you're considering me as "acting like they're entitled to consume Google's resources without giving anything in return", is both idiotic and offensive. Equating it with piracy puts you in my ignore list, because that shit just gets me angry, and that leads to no useful interaction.
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Although, people are free to put anyone or everyone (within forum limits), for any, or even no reason, on their ignore list.
We are, in general, all trying to have a free and open discussion here. So just expressing a persons current feelings about the current topic of discussion, shouldn't result in them going on other peoples ignore list.
If they were being extremely rude (swear words), repeatedly (apparently on purpose), hence trolling and/or other continuous bad behaviour, then that might be a different issue.
Not everyone has got English as their first language, and for other reasons as well. It might appear that they are being rude, when in fact, they are just making some points.
MK14:
--- Quote from: ataradov on October 18, 2023, 06:22:19 am ---None of this is free, it is included in the price. And by no means you are entitled to any of this. You may not shop there anymore if you don't like the experience, but that's a different story.
But I don't see how this is related to the topic.
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What I meant was, that although the extra 'tomatoes' was NOT free, with the purchase of a loaf of bread.
Many other things (such as parking), was free. Even though, such things can be charged for (e.g. parking), in other places.
As you say, it is not really 'free', as you are expected to make purchases (in some cases you have to, in order to get a current receipt, to avoid parking charges, when exiting the car park).
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