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SiliconWizard:

--- Quote from: madires on October 20, 2023, 01:48:35 pm ---Those measures would also violate very elementary rights of citizens in several countries.

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Do you think that would really stop them? ::)

helius:

--- Quote from: amwales on October 20, 2023, 12:07:29 pm ---This change made the video play, I was able to do this with any video and my adblocker continued to work,
YMMV.
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I was hesitating to disclose it to the world, but yes, it continues to work (and it has worked for the last handful of years I have hand-edited all youtube URLs in this way). You may not be given the option of full-HD quality on some videos.
Using a DNS proxy with dummy static entries for e.g. "googleadapis.l.google.com" can also prevent the text ad banners.
Actually the subscribe popups and pre/midroll ads simply do not load when using this interface, there is nothing for adblockers to block.

Karel:

--- Quote from: ve7xen on October 20, 2023, 07:30:18 pm ---..., but they also send it all in the clear to some often-shady-seeming company in a foreign country, whose customers are also often shady, or have 'something to hide'.

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You believe that, for example, Proton VPN which is based in Switzerland, is a shady company?
Switzerland has one of the strongest privacy protection laws and they are not part of the US or the EU.
As long as you don't break Swiss law, you'll be fine when using Proton VPN.

wilfred:
Using Microsoft Edge on WIN10 and Adblock Plus I got the warnings and then the timeout warning and then they stopped and I was getting a blank screen in the YT window for what I am assuming is the timeout to skip the ads before the video started playing.

I'll take that. I can ignore the blank screen and silence, and wait a bit for the video to start playing.

I did install Ublock Origin into Edge and that just showed a YT you've got 3 more videos before we just stop playing videos. Which is what happened. I went back to Adblock Plus. Maybe that too will stop working soon.

Then I will hopefully watch fewer YT videos along with fewer ads. Maybe I'll buy a subscription. It's not like I don't think I'll get some value from it.

ve7xen:

--- Quote from: Karel on October 21, 2023, 07:34:19 am ---You believe that, for example, Proton VPN which is based in Switzerland, is a shady company?
Switzerland has one of the strongest privacy protection laws and they are not part of the US or the EU.
As long as you don't break Swiss law, you'll be fine when using Proton VPN.

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I did not name any companies, so no I don't believe that, because I don't know anything about this company or Swiss law. I believe that many of these companies target shady customers, some are registered in 'corporate friendly' jurisdictions with dubious histories, and all of them are juicy targets for black hats, the surveillance apparatus, and user data silos alike. Many or even most of these companies operate servers outside their home jurisdiction as well, which are subject to the laws and surveillance apparatus of the place they operate. And if you as a customer aren't in the same jurisdiction as that company's home, you might not enjoy the same rights as citizens, or likely just have no practical recourse against them should they violate your trust.

I am simply advising careful consideration before you use one, which includes deciding for yourself whether or not your trust the particular VPN provider you choose to use. The point is you are changing who has access to your cleartext, not preventing anyone from having access, as these companies would have you believe.

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