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| coppercone2:
Well you would probobly get news paper only, that is edited by the party in charge. No need for people to waste their time scrutinizing the news. Our job of directing regrowth is more important then the immediate truth.... leave it for the historians to judge us :D Also its interesting with the C3I targeting procedures of these modern methods of fighting war, if both C3I bases get destroyed, meaning that the leader of the armed forces is going to be some lower echelon personnel with little... educational training and stuff. All the generals and admirals and people with political savey are super targeted, so no one like that will be left to smooth things over (military diplomacy), and it will be run by the last remaining boot, brutally I suspect... the last memory is going to be yelled at by the drill instructor, not the meeting with the chiefs of staff about how to handle multinational issues. "I don't know what the fuck is going on and I am very important now.....* " *supposedly this happened in USSR after WW2, rapidly promoted soldiers because of horrific death rates got promoted to political positions right after the war. How did that turn out? And after a nuclear attack you know that the general population wont even think to.. ignore someone with basic military training, especially if they picked up the ensignia off the general-roast on the way to the whats left of the town hall meeting. So you will have basically kids in charge. |
| TomKatt:
--- Quote from: tggzzz on February 15, 2023, 01:53:07 pm ---The only remotely similar programme was the 1966 "The War Game", which was deemed to be too horrific for broadcast for the next 20 years. --- End quote --- You know it's going to be bad when even the most horrific predictions are deemed 'too horrific' and need to be tamed for public dissemination... I think it was 'The War Game' that mentioned the fire storms that would create tornado force winds sucking people into the inferno for miles around... --- Quote from: coppercone2 on February 15, 2023, 01:59:44 pm ---Well you would probobly get news paper only, that is edited by the party in charge. No need for people to waste their time scrutinizing the news. Our job of directing regrowth is more important then the immediate truth.... leave it for the historians to judge us :D --- End quote --- Seems like we're nearly there now... |
| tggzzz:
--- Quote from: coppercone2 on February 15, 2023, 01:56:32 pm ---I guess they don't anticipate people trying to muster the remains to do their bidding, that plot reads like everyone gave up and the politicians all died. I think someone would try to basically band people together with the promise of rapid regrowth to the lives they knew (probobly through conquest). Like a government that is anti apathetic. They assume massive destruction followed by apathy and peace from other groups of man in threads. But I think you would get some clever politicians that would start more war quickly. --- End quote --- It is fiction, not a documentary, so it is unarguable :) The main point of interest to me is the comparison with the USA movie, where nuclear war is implied to be survivable because "here come's the cavalry". One consequence was that Threads caused many people to ponder why the USA was plonking intermediate range nuclear missiles in the UK. People came to realise that the USA was defending us so the war would be faught here rather than in the US. Much like Ukraine today, as Boris Johnson (who he?) pointed out "We’re paying higher bills – Ukraine is paying in blood" :( |
| tggzzz:
--- Quote from: TomKatt on February 15, 2023, 02:11:23 pm --- --- Quote from: tggzzz on February 15, 2023, 01:53:07 pm ---The only remotely similar programme was the 1966 "The War Game", which was deemed to be too horrific for broadcast for the next 20 years. --- End quote --- You know it's going to be bad when even the most horrific predictions are deemed 'too horrific' and need to be tamed for public dissemination... I think it was 'The War Game' that mentioned the fire storms that would create tornado force winds sucking people into the inferno for miles around... --- End quote --- IIRC the real sticking point was the depiction of a neighbourhood beat policeman summarily executing someone. Context: the UK police didn't (and mostly don't) carry guns. |
| TomKatt:
--- Quote from: tggzzz on February 15, 2023, 02:41:03 pm ---One consequence was that Threads caused many people to ponder why the USA was plonking intermediate range nuclear missiles in the UK. People came to realise that the USA was defending us so the war would be faught here rather than in the US. Much like Ukraine today, as Boris Johnson (who he?) pointed out "We’re paying higher bills – Ukraine is paying in blood" :( --- End quote --- While that is certainly true, it seems like the UK (and every other modern nation) wanted their own nukes as well, so in some sense they'd probably be there no matter who installed them. At the same time, the US didn't want to share the atomic secrets, forcing the UK to do their own work and the mess that comes with it (Windscale?). I don't know what the answer is to anything, but I've never seen atomic energy in any form to solve more problems than it creates. Given the naivete of the times it was developed, it's amazing we haven't blown ourselves up so far. |
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