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Zero999:

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As Dave pointed out on the comments section of this video, there is very little to be done other than providing feedback on this portion of the search results page. I personally don't see a problem with the "algorithm" as she mentioned: it is returning an unfiltered result based on what people actually search*. What one does with that information is what matters.

In a society that is more accepting of the trans community, such piece of information, despite distorted, could be the spark of a broader conversation about the word or even be used as PR currency in a partnership.

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It's now gone. I did report it a few hours ago, so maybe that did the trick?

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I didn't think the word transvestite is a slur. I suppose a good number of people don't know the difference between transgender and transvestite/cross-dresser, or whatever the accepted term is for a man dressed as a women. This isn't helped by the fact that it appears that some people who claim to be trans are just cross-dressers.

Yes, Google will just base its results on what people search and will display troll results, if trolled.
HobGoblyn:

--- Quote from: MrMobodies on May 01, 2022, 03:42:13 am ---Just found this:
https://www.androidpolice.com/youtube-is-now-hiding-the-like-count/

--- Quote ---YouTube's messing with likes, and we can't hit dislike hard enough
BY JAMES PECKHAM PUBLISHED 3 DAYS AGO
Likes are hidden for some users

YouTube decided to hide the dislike counter from public view in late 2021, and it seems the service may now be experimenting with a similar change for likes on videos. Various YouTube users have taken to Reddit and Twitter to report the lack of a like counter in the normal position, and it's instead moved to the video's description. Reports from Reddit users u/morvexT and u/Ghostyscarab372 show videos without like counters, and some follow-up comments report the same issue. We've also seen three separate cases on Twitter with users complaining that the like counter has disappeared in the last 24 hours.

We haven’t been able to replicate the same interface as you can see on these social media posts, which makes us believe it’s a test limited to certain accounts. The like counter is still there for at least two Android Police writers, and there’s currently no confirmation of the experiment from YouTube itself.

One of these reports came from Twitter user @Thabet_Yusuf who confirmed that if they press on the description of the video they are still able to see the like counter. It seems YouTube isn't planning to hide likes away entirely as it did with dislikes, but it may be aiming to make them a touch harder to find than before. Usually, likes appear directly below the video.

So far, all the reports we’ve spotted seem to be for the mobile version of YouTube. We’ve yet to see anyone report this on desktop or devices such as Smart TVs and consoles. Are you finding the like counter has disappeared from your YouTube app? Let us know in the comments.
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Looks like they are trying balance it out a bit, if they are going to hide the negative feedback counter why not do it to the other. Maybe they should have thought about this during their experiment early last year before their final decision.

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Trouble is, almost every business on the planet goes out of their way to hide bad reviews, a while back Private Eye (uk magazine) had an article about trustpilot, saying how bad reviews of certain companies it’s parent company owns, seem to have disappeared.

As for things like Facebook, I loath Facebook, I’m on it to keep in touch with about 20 people where I grew up. Unfortunately this has the pain of getting all Facebooks ads.

One got my attention,  a washing machine manufacturer claiming quote

“ Xyz products are all Made in England to some of the most stringent design and manufacturing standards in the world.”  They also made a huge point about how their washing machines had hot fill as well as cold fill.

Someone asked “ what percentage is made in Britain, they replied 87% is made in their own factory”

I asked them how they arrive at 87%, is it by number of pieces, weight or size etc, pointing out that the most likely thing to go wrong are the electronics, and could they confirm what percentage of the electronics are made in the UK.

I also questioned their claim that having a separate hot fill in addition to cold fill would save the average UK householder with a combi boiler any money, again politely pointing out that for many householders it can take up to a minute before hot water reaches the tap, so in many cases the boiler would be kicking in to heat water after the machine had filled up, hence wasting money not saving it.

My post was removed and I have been banned from their site



madires:

--- Quote from: HobGoblyn on May 01, 2022, 10:21:31 am ---My post was removed and I have been banned from their site

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You're meant to enjoy ads and to consume, not to ask reasonable questions. >:D On the bright side, you've learned that they are hypocrites and suppressing free speech.
madires:
The Day After The Google Video:
cdev:
Although its not the main function of YouTube, there is absolutely no reason that you cant set up your own YouTube vote counter, except their trademarked name.

If you call it something else.

You should try doing that. Offer a means for people to vote on web content, and get people to use it. Slice and dice and sort in different ways.Give these web sites competition. They have become hugge monopolies that are stealing all thats interesting on the web and selling it to the biggest corporations to track people.

Ive set up my own search engine, so that I can avoid using Google. Its only accessible to me. Every day I spider a large number of sites. I save my index of their their content to a database. I use a search engine that pre-existed Google. I remember using it back then. (I also pre-exist Google and can prove it.) I refuse to use anything like their "YouTube App". I just use http GET and POST.


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--- Quote from: MrMobodies on May 01, 2022, 03:42:13 am ---Just found this:
https://www.androidpolice.com/youtube-is-now-hiding-the-like-count/

--- Quote ---YouTube's messing with likes, and we can't hit dislike hard enough
BY JAMES PECKHAM PUBLISHED 3 DAYS AGO
Likes are hidden for some users

YouTube decided to hide the dislike counter from public view in late 2021, and it seems the service may now be experimenting with a similar change for likes on videos. Various YouTube users have taken to Reddit and Twitter to report the lack of a like counter in the normal position, and it's instead moved to the video's description. Reports from Reddit users u/morvexT and u/Ghostyscarab372 show videos without like counters, and some follow-up comments report the same issue. We've also seen three separate cases on Twitter with users complaining that the like counter has disappeared in the last 24 hours.

We haven’t been able to replicate the same interface as you can see on these social media posts, which makes us believe it’s a test limited to certain accounts. The like counter is still there for at least two Android Police writers, and there’s currently no confirmation of the experiment from YouTube itself.

One of these reports came from Twitter user @Thabet_Yusuf who confirmed that if they press on the description of the video they are still able to see the like counter. It seems YouTube isn't planning to hide likes away entirely as it did with dislikes, but it may be aiming to make them a touch harder to find than before. Usually, likes appear directly below the video.

So far, all the reports we’ve spotted seem to be for the mobile version of YouTube. We’ve yet to see anyone report this on desktop or devices such as Smart TVs and consoles. Are you finding the like counter has disappeared from your YouTube app? Let us know in the comments.
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Looks like they are trying balance it out a bit, if they are going to hide the negative feedback counter why not do it to the other. Maybe they should have thought about this during their experiment early last year before their final decision.

--- End quote ---

Trouble is, almost every business on the planet goes out of their way to hide bad reviews, a while back Private Eye (uk magazine) had an article about trustpilot, saying how bad reviews of certain companies it’s parent company owns, seem to have disappeared.

As for things like Facebook, I loath Facebook, I’m on it to keep in touch with about 20 people where I grew up. Unfortunately this has the pain of getting all Facebooks ads.

One got my attention,  a washing machine manufacturer claiming quote

“ Xyz products are all Made in England to some of the most stringent design and manufacturing standards in the world.”  They also made a huge point about how their washing machines had hot fill as well as cold fill.

Someone asked “ what percentage is made in Britain, they replied 87% is made in their own factory”

I asked them how they arrive at 87%, is it by number of pieces, weight or size etc, pointing out that the most likely thing to go wrong are the electronics, and could they confirm what percentage of the electronics are made in the UK.

I also questioned their claim that having a separate hot fill in addition to cold fill would save the average UK householder with a combi boiler any money, again politely pointing out that for many householders it can take up to a minute before hot water reaches the tap, so in many cases the boiler would be kicking in to heat water after the machine had filled up, hence wasting money not saving it.

My post was removed and I have been banned from their site

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