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Youtube/Google is evil, time to fight back
EEVblog:
--- Quote from: Halcyon on April 23, 2022, 10:53:49 pm ---LBRY/Odysee is really the only viable alternative. Thankfully, some of my favourite content creators have or are slowly making the transition over. I understand that it's difficult when monetisation from Youtube is their primary source of income, but to me that suggests poor planning (if the channel is being run as a business).
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It's not poor planning, it's literally less than 5 minutes work and all your content is synced. You never have to look at or touch it again. Same with Utreon, Bitchute, and Rumble. Once creators are aware of this it's a decision most likely based on an ideological viewpoint of some kind.
EEVblog:
--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on April 24, 2022, 03:59:43 am ---
--- Quote from: John B on April 23, 2022, 11:58:52 pm ---I like odysee, but I find the bandwidth to be limited, so I have to download each video to watch them smoothly.
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Content creators refuse to acknowledge this.
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I constantly mention it.
EEVblog:
--- Quote from: DiTBho on April 23, 2022, 10:57:47 pm ---Hence, alternative[]={ LBRY, Rumble, Odysee, Locals, Telegraph }.
I will study them, I have never used them, thanks for the list :D
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Locals is a Patreon alternative, not a Youtube-like video platform.
The best alternative Youtube platforms are IMO, ranked:
1) Odysee
2) Utreon
3) Rumble
4) Bitchute a distant last
Both Odysee and Utreon have Patreon like features as well as superchats for live shows.
There are others like Vimeo and Daily Motion but the traction is practically zero.
If you don't like the random buffering issues with Odysee I recommend Utreon, it's really very nice, but hardly anyone knows about it apart from many gun channels that have moved over there. They have only started some publicity in the last month or so after several years with practically zero publicity or effort.
Rumble is probably bigger then Odysee, but AFAIk I'm the only electronics creator on there. And I don't use it personally.
Bitchute is just horrible, the resolution sucks, they refuse to fix there image etc. I don't recommend it.
With the exception of Rumble, I have talked to the owners and developers of these platform and have helped them shape it. Bitchute is the only one that listened but dismissed my advice outright.
If creators had joined LBRY and then Odysee when I told them too that would have build large audiences on there by now like I have and have gained a huge amount of LBC that was offered early on per view. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
MrMobodies:
--- Quote from: timenutgoblin on April 24, 2022, 04:34:45 am ---So, you're suggesting we boycott Google (products) then?
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I am slowly migrating across different platforms, trying to use Google less and less, so I do one search in DuckDuckGo, I set that as my default home page, then when I am not satisfied or want to see more I select the text, left click and select "search with google" which has a few exclusions one being from Pinterest and some sites that mas spam the search engine with their links to clickbait and troll the user into things so that's one benefit.
There is another search engine I have seen called, Ecosia and I think it is based on Bing.
https://www.ecosia.org
I don't see any option to hide the search suggestions so hid them with Adblock:
I don't know which does what from my blocklist but it's in there somewhere if you don't like being bombarded with search suggestions:
--- Quote ---ecosia.org##.typeahead-link
ecosia.org##.banner
ecosia.org##.notifications-banner
ecosia.org##.js-notifications-banner.notifications-banner-placeholder
ecosia.org##.serp-cta-wrapper.margin-top-base.serp-cta-wrapper--with-copy
ecosia.org##.cta__button.button.button--variant-solid-primary.button--size-m.button--text-size-m.visible
ecosia.org##.banner
ecosia.org##.circular
ecosia.org##.earth-icon
ecosia.org##.icon-button.icon-button--elevation-0.icon-button--size-m.icon-button--variant-bare.button.button__clear
ecosia.org##.icon-button.icon-button--elevation-0.icon-button--size-m.icon-button--variant-bare.button.button__clear.button__clear--hidden
ecosia.org##.loading-animation.no-js-hide
ecosia.org##.suggestion-link
ecosia.org##.suggestions.suggestion-list.suggestion-list--variant-default
eu.usatoday.com##.logo
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Actually I think I have a few from DuckDuckGo one of them if the suggestions as I can't be bothered switching them off when the cookies sometimes get cleared:
--- Quote ---duckduckgo.com##.modal__overlay.js-modal-close
duckduckgo.com##.acp-wrap.js-acp-wrap
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Simon:
--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on April 24, 2022, 02:42:56 am ---
--- Quote from: MrMobodies on April 24, 2022, 02:18:58 am ---Sometimes they too useful but hopefully other search engines will catch up.
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DuckDuckGo is a good alternative.
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No it's a pile of crap that does not return the same quality of results, theres another one that claims to plant trees with the proceeds and uses bing, that can't find what is in front of it.
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