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cdev:

--- Quote from: eugene on May 03, 2022, 11:21:48 pm ---CDEV, you're completely out of control. I honestly feel bad for you; living in constant fear of, well apparently everything, must be exhausting at best and probably much worse.

Seriously, you need to take care of yourself.

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I'm fine and I think I'm being fairly lucid.. Do you understand what I have said, and what I havent said.. (anything unclear)
cdev:

--- Quote from: MK14 on May 04, 2022, 12:34:33 am ---
--- Quote from: cdev on May 03, 2022, 10:52:51 pm ---The government
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Is everything alright ?

You seem to be making quite a lot of, posts. Which seem to be worried about the Government and stuff.

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Are you okay?
MK14:

--- Quote from: cdev on May 04, 2022, 01:29:11 am ---Are you okay?

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I hope so.    :)
eugene:

--- Quote from: cdev on May 04, 2022, 01:25:02 am ---
--- Quote from: eugene on May 03, 2022, 11:21:48 pm ---CDEV, you're completely out of control. I honestly feel bad for you; living in constant fear of, well apparently everything, must be exhausting at best and probably much worse.

Seriously, you need to take care of yourself.

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I'm fine and I think I'm being fairly lucid.. Do you understand what I have said, and what I havent said.. (anything unclear)

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I think I understood both what you said and what you didn't say.

Good talk. Good talk.
Nominal Animal:

--- Quote from: nctnico on May 03, 2022, 10:24:10 pm ---Fortunately social media and regular media start to see that they have a responsibility for removing false information
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That is utterly sick and twisted.

Journalists are not supposed to be the guardians of truth!  They are not the watchdogs of the population, they are the watchdogs of the powers that be!

God dammit I utterly, utterly despise the idea of information providers limiting access to information based on what they believe to be true or factual.  It is not their right, nor their responsibility.


--- Quote from: nctnico on May 03, 2022, 10:24:10 pm ---or at least tagging information as not being verified
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Now that is perfectly reasonable, and something any respectable journalist always does.  I agree.


--- Quote from: nctnico on May 03, 2022, 10:24:10 pm ---or at least tagging information as not being true
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Do you not realize that those you demand should limit others' access to information are just as fallible as everyone else?

Think of the situation where 98% of those working at the media you can access easily were Trumpists.  Would you feel okay accepting their definition of truth as your own?

Hell, regardless of what kind of political views those people have, why on Earth would you accept their definition of truth as your own anyway?
Or is it that you are comfortably stuck with your own views that no data can shake, and you're worried about what other people might consider to be the truth, and limit that?

Anyone can set up an "intelligence-gathering outfit" in their Mom's garage like Bellingcat, and construct a circle of actors to provide enough references to make any kind of claim and label it "true" by referring to each other.  That's how most "fact checkers" work.

What I want, is everybody to acknowledge that they never, ever have all the facts.  It is not the purpose nor the right of a news house or social media to limit the exchange of information, especially to some arbitrarily politically defined subset they deem "true".  (Especially since in the last few years, quite a few of the "conspiracy theories" from Trump's election being a result of Russian manipulation, to Hunter Biden's laptop and its damning evidence of the Biden family money-for-power politics, have now been shown to be factual, contrary to what majority of media insisted at the time.  Fact is, no pun intended, that "fact checking" has nothing to do with verifiable facts, and everything to do with selecting which sources one wants to believe.)

Tagging is fine.  Removing or region-restricting illegal content is fine.  (It's up to the local population to decide what they consider illegal, in my opinion.)
But handing anyone the right to deem information as "not for the population to see or discuss" because is is not "true" is unbelievably fascist, authoritarian idea, that I will fight against.  The hate speech laws here in EU are utterly ridiculous already, what with a Finnish former minister and current member of parliament being dragged through the courts for quoting the Bible.  (I'm not actually Christian myself.)
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