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| wraper:
--- Quote from: Someone on May 06, 2022, 02:43:01 am --- --- Quote from: ve7xen on May 06, 2022, 01:52:45 am ---I am insisting that YouTube and similar have the right to choose not to host/publish whatever they want for whatever reason they want, and arguing that they don't have this right is absurd. It's a free hosting service provided by a private company. For the most part that's not what's actually happening though. ...I think we are seeing the public start to call for similar standards of truth and ethics to be applied to the Internet publishers as we may previously have expected of book publishers. And similarly, there will always be counter-culture publishers and Internet platforms, and there's mostly nothing wrong with that. --- End quote --- That should all be pretty obvious to most people, cant believe it needs restating. Where it gets interesting is that these platforms want it both ways: "we choose who/what appears" while simultaneously "we are not responsible for what appears as it was someone else". Quickly gets political! --- End quote --- They can choose what not to publish. But then they become a publisher, not a platform. Which means they no longer should have legal protections platforms have and should be responsible for the content they publish and can be sued for what they publish. However they want editorial right of a publisher but responsibility of a platform. |
| Zero999:
--- Quote from: james_s on May 05, 2022, 11:34:04 pm ---I really don't understand the controversy around the Covid vaccines, especially since the handful of people I've known that refuse to get it don't seem bothered by taking other medications, particularly some medications that are not approved and/or are known to have potentially serious side effects. I don't think opposition to the Covid vaccine is rational or scientific in any way, it is political, and rooted in the fact that people don't like being told what to do, myself included. If they had told that group that they were not allowed to get vaccinated they'd be lined up at the door with pitchforks and torches demanding a shot. The only reason there is pushback against the idiots that refuse to get it is that vaccines (of any sort) only work when a large enough segment of the population gets vaccinated to achieve herd immunity. My mom was around when the Polio vaccine was developed and remembers lining up in a big line as a nurse walked down the line and gave each person a jab. People trusted science back then and there was no pushback that she can recall, everyone just got it and countless lives were saved or improved by it. --- End quote --- There are perfectly rational reasons to be concerned about the COVID-19 vaccines. The risk of severe disease increases with age, yet the risk of vaccine side effects increases with decreasing age. There is evidence to suggest that at some point, the risk of certain vaccine complications, such as myocarditis, in some demographics, exceed that of catching the virus. Refer to the study in Nature Medicine for more information. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.23.21268276v1.full.pdf Here's a graph showing excess myocarditis in different population groups post-vaccine vs infection. The events post vaccination of Pfizer and Moderna, exceed those after infection in men under 40. https://www.eevblog.com/forum/dodgy-technology/mostly-dodgy-sars-cov-2-rapid-tests/?action=dlattach;attach=1386011;image Now there are other bad things which COVID can do, so I'm not saying men under 40 shouldn't get the shot, just that it isn't always as clear cut as you've been led to believe. The study was also done when more pathogenic variants were in circulation. The rates of myocarditis, along with other complications, post Omicron are probably lower, but there isn't solid data, so it's speculation. There's no data to support getting the vaccine, if you've already had the infection. The risk of hospitalisation, after subsequent infections, for those who've been vaccinated and infected before is the same as those who've only had the natural infection. If you've already had COVID and recovered, then getting the shot makes no difference to your risk of severe illness, if you get it again, so it makes no sense to risk the vaccine side effects. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7104e1.htm#F1_down The vaccine doesn't prevent transmission, so implying the pandemic would've been over by now, if idiots got vaccinated is incorrect. It's people who use that kind of rhetoric are part of the problem. Insulting those who disagree with you is only going to make them feel more marginalised and won't help. Herd immunity isn't happening and never will because the virus mutates and sterilising immunity doesn't last for long. Fortunately immunity from severe disease and death are long lived, which is why it's no longer a problem. The fact that Omicron is less pathogenic also helps, but increased immunity is a huge factor. The double blind, placebo controlled trial for the vaccine was for two doses only, not a third, or fourth. It was also only in adults over 18. There isn't sold data to support how it's currently being used. No, the government's vaccine policy doesn't follow the science and needs to be called out. I accepted it at the start and got the first two doses, but refused the third. I completely understand why some people won't get vaccinated. |
| madires:
Guns, Drugs, and Skin Bleaching: YouTube Kids Still Poses Risks to Children: https://www.techtransparencyproject.org/articles/guns-drugs-and-skin-bleaching-youtube-kids-still-poses-risks-children |
| tszaboo:
--- Quote from: nctnico on May 05, 2022, 10:15:05 pm --- --- Quote from: tszaboo on May 05, 2022, 09:23:56 pm --- --- Quote from: SiliconWizard on May 05, 2022, 05:55:59 pm --- --- Quote from: tszaboo on May 05, 2022, 08:02:58 am --- --- Quote from: EEVblog on May 05, 2022, 07:52:37 am ---I for one welcome our new misinformation overloards. --- End quote --- Ministery of Truth. --- End quote --- It is absolutely coming. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disinformation_Governance_Board --- End quote --- Yeah, I heard about this. The real issue is that free speech is equal to freedom of thought, they don't exist one without another. --- End quote --- Nobody is taking either away. The goal is to prevent misinformation to spread like wildfire. IOW: people need to actively look for information instead of being bombarded with it. Hopefully it will help to prevent stupidity like anti-vaxers and unhealthy diets (like 'carb free') from becoming popular. --- End quote --- It always starts like that. Just this just that. Just the nutters. Just the communists. Just the talk which offends people. Just the talk that offends anyone. Just my neighbor. Just the russians. Just the ones who believed that the Earth is not the center of the universe, but the Vatican and everyone else clearly believes that's the truth, and there are more of us so their view must be false. Just the ones that have opposing political views than mine. We are just going to censor those people, but only those people. Monthly community updates will follow on what is censored! |
| rsjsouza:
--- Quote from: tszaboo on May 06, 2022, 11:17:28 am --- --- Quote from: nctnico on May 05, 2022, 10:15:05 pm --- --- Quote from: tszaboo on May 05, 2022, 09:23:56 pm --- --- Quote from: SiliconWizard on May 05, 2022, 05:55:59 pm --- --- Quote from: tszaboo on May 05, 2022, 08:02:58 am --- --- Quote from: EEVblog on May 05, 2022, 07:52:37 am ---I for one welcome our new misinformation overloards. --- End quote --- Ministery of Truth. --- End quote --- It is absolutely coming. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disinformation_Governance_Board --- End quote --- Yeah, I heard about this. The real issue is that free speech is equal to freedom of thought, they don't exist one without another. --- End quote --- Nobody is taking either away. The goal is to prevent misinformation to spread like wildfire. IOW: people need to actively look for information instead of being bombarded with it. Hopefully it will help to prevent stupidity like anti-vaxers and unhealthy diets (like 'carb free') from becoming popular. --- End quote --- It always starts like that. Just this just that. Just the nutters. Just the communists. Just the talk which offends people. Just the talk that offends anyone. Just my neighbor. Just the russians. Just the ones who believed that the Earth is not the center of the universe, but the Vatican and everyone else clearly believes that's the truth, and there are more of us so their view must be false. Just the ones that have opposing political views than mine. We are just going to censor those people, but only those people. Monthly community updates will follow on what is censored! --- End quote --- Indeed. Once power is seized, it is never given back willingly. It baffles me how many times over in the history of the world we need to go through the same steps that lead to hell while entire segments of society loudly applaud this in the name of "safety", "reason", "progress", <put_your_favourite_noun_here> |
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