General > General Technical Chat

Youtube/Google is evil, time to fight back

<< < (8/61) > >>

NiHaoMike:

--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on April 24, 2022, 06:16:22 pm ---All of those networks end up the same, for the same reasons.

Odysee is currently better, but wait till it grows and some big corporation buys it, and it'll do exactly the same shit. Meanwhile, enjoy.

Most of those companies have a political agenda, so it's not just about the money. This is concerning indeed. Probably inevitable though. The only thing that can help avoiding this is to "divide and replicate". Avoid concentration of powers, and you solve the problem.

--- End quote ---
The ideal would be an open source P2P system that cannot be "bought".

madires:
I'm watching some channels on Odysee for a while now and from a user's perspective they have several issues. When the video resolution option is available I have to select 1080 to get an acceptable image quality (480 on YouTube works fine for me). Anything up to 720 looks like crap, expecially motions. Still images, e.g. a schematic, are mostly fine. Videos often stop randomly and I have to reload the page. Luckily the reloaded video starts where it stopped before. The algorithm for video recommendations seems to promote SJW/woke/scam/conspiracy themed videos on some special trigger words in video titles. I had this several times when watching electronics videos and I strongly dislike it.

YurkshireLad:
Osysee's search engine is terrible. If I search for Owon, for example, it returns hits for Owen and God knows what else. They hate to admit when they don't have many matches and just show you a list of irrelevant junk.

MrMobodies:
I like Odysee but my concern is, I read they allow anything on there such as hate speeches that could give governments like the UK the justification to ban it from their country (if out of their jurisdiction to force them to change) which might lead to it's downfall.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/14/odysee-video-platform-nazi-content-not-grounds-for-removal

--- Quote ---jason_a_w Fri 14 May 2021 11.00 BST
Last modified on Fri 14 May 2021 12.53 BST

Video platform chief says Nazi posts on white superiority do not merit removal

A leaked email from an Odysee executive suggests the site favoured by the far right could do more to restrict extremists

A top executive at the video sharing platform Odysee wrote guidance to moderators in late April that a “Nazi that makes videos about the superiority of the white race” would not be grounds by itself for removal from the platform, according to a leaked email obtained by the Guardian. The platform, whose owner, LBRY Inc, is currently being sued by the Securities and Exchange Commission for trading in unregistered securities, has been increasingly popular with extremists who have been banned from other platforms, and who are attracted by Odysee’s cryptocurrency-based monetization program.

Explosives and weaponry found at US far-right protests, documents revealThe emails, sent in error to a user who had been complaining about neo-Nazi content on the platform, suggest that the platform is not doing as much as it can to restrict extremists. Initially, the user had emailed Odysee’s general contact address to warn that “Nazi propagandist Eric Striker has announced plans to use Odysee to stream his podcast”, referring to the alias used by New York-based neo-Nazi Joseph Jordan. The user then linked to Jordan’s channel on the site, as well as 10 other additional neo-Nazi, white nationalist or far-right extremist channels.

Jordan has been a key figure in the half-decade-long resurgence of white supremacist organizing, having collaborated with US-based organizers for the neo-fascist Golden Dawn party, participated in the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville in 2017, and lent his support to the formation of the white nationalist and antisemitic National Justice party. His most energetic work has been as what the Southern Poverty Law Center describes as “one of the most prolific content creators in the alt-right”: as a writer or podcaster. He has contributed prolifically to influential extremist outlets like the Daily Stormer, the Right Stuff podcast network and to his own website, National Justice. Asked about Jordan’s activities, an SPLC spokesman, Michael Edison Hayden, wrote in an email that, “Joseph Jordan will tell you to an inch away from your face that he’s a proud neo-Nazi. He’s also arguably the most prolific hate propagandist of the last five years, and his venom comes out very, very sharply in particular for Jewish people and the LGBTQ community.”

Hayden added: “That’s why tech companies typically suspend him – he puts other people in danger and pollutes your brand with such a palpably acrid taste.” Despite this history, and in direct reference to the user complaint, Julian Chandra, the vice-president for growth at LBRY, which owns both Odysee and created the blockchain-based video-sharing protocol that underpins it, wrote: “Eric Striker is a white supremacist, but that has nothing to do with him being on Odysee. What matters is if he breaks rules.”

Chandra added: “Have a look at the title of the video: if it appears to be inciting hatred toward an ethnic group or whatever; the title should be scrubbed. But that doesn’t mean the video should be removed unless it does break community guidelines.” Chandra continued: “Also just being a white nationalist or nazi isn’t grounds for removal.

Are you nazi that makes videos about the superiority of the white race? That is NOT grounds for removal. “If you’re on the other hand, dehumanizing a race or doing things against our guidelines, that is grounds for removal,” he concluded. On the idea that white supremacist beliefs can be articulated without dehumanizing other groups, Hayden, the SPLC spokesperson, said: “White supremacy is inherently dehumanizing.” The Guardian’s review of channels linked to by the complainant revealed scores of extremist videos, some of which have been viewed thousands of times.

Variously they promoted antisemitic conspiracy theories – including versions of the “Great Replacement” narrative, claiming Jews were orchestrating the demographic replacement of white people through mass immigration. They also glorified Hitler and other Nazis, showed meetings and rallies held by extremist parties like National Justice and Nordic Resistance, promoted disinformation about Covid-19 vaccines, and featured titles like The Pure Evil of the Jews, Second American Civil War, Treblinka Wasn’t a Death Camp, and They Want You Dead, White Man.

Odysee and LBRY employees did not immediately respond to requests for comment on the apparent moderation guidance Chandra offered. A month before that email exchange, the SEC filed a complaint against Odysee’s owner, LBRY Inc, arguing that it had raised funds through issues of the LBC cryptocurrency, and in doing so had traded an unregistered security. Creators on the site can also earn the cryptocurrency by means such as including tips from viewers. Recent videos on Jordan’s livestreaming channels had earned the approximate equivalent of $5 per stream.

Although Chandra, the LBRY vice-president, sent his guidance in error to the original complainant, he warned others against sharing the underlying reasons for moderation decisions. “Please note also, we don’t need to provide our judgements to the people that complain. It’s none of their business how we act in response,” Chandra wrote.
--- End quote ---



Then there's a safety bill act in the UK that focuses on hate content:
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/online-safety-law-to-be-strengthened-to-stamp-out-illegal-content

--- Quote ---Online Safety Bill strengthened with new list of criminal content for tech firms to remove as a priority

Department for Digital, Culture, Media & Sport, Home Office, The Rt Hon Nadine Dorries MP, and The Rt Hon Priti Patel MP
Published 4 February 2022

Digital Secretary Nadine Dorries today announced extra priority illegal offences to be written on the face of the bill include revenge porn, hate crime, fraud, the sale of illegal drugs or weapons, the promotion or facilitation of suicide, people smuggling and sexual exploitation. Terrorism and child sexual abuse are already included.

...

It will clamp down on pimps and human traffickers, extremist groups encouraging violence and racial hate against minorities
--- End quote ---


Well I hope the two (governments and hate campaigners) don't ruin it for everyone else enjoying the platform.

magic:

--- Quote from: Zero999 on April 24, 2022, 06:53:26 pm ---I've just watched the video posted at the start of the thread. I don't follow her channel, but going by Google's super woke ads, I would have thought they'd love her. She's a Chinese lesbian with fake tits, which should help, rather than hinder her. Google claim to be all for the rights of ethnic minorities, women performing traditionally thought of as men's jobs and LGBTQ rights and she ticks plenty of boxes. She should tell YouTube, they're discriminating against because she's a gay Chinese woman and be sure to use the following words: racist, homophobic and misogynist. Those words trigger woketard managers.

--- End quote ---
She and her viewers objectify whamen and promote harmful stereotypes which lead to discrespecting whamen.
Also, think of all the young girls who will believe they also need to get implants just to be accepted in the industry.

Besides, all social justice is manufactured by Reptilians. They pick a cause which aligns with their goals and then the media promote the cause and then you end up believing the cause. Starting with a belief (even if one promoted last year) and expecting the media to promote it now is 100% backwards, you might as well go and start giving orders to the Lizards.

Navigation

[0] Message Index

[#] Next page

[*] Previous page

There was an error while thanking
Thanking...
Go to full version
Powered by SMFPacks Advanced Attachments Uploader Mod