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Re: Youtube/Google is evil, time to fight back
« Reply #25 on: April 24, 2022, 07:44:54 am »
LBRY/Odysee is really the only viable alternative. Thankfully, some of my favourite content creators have or are slowly making the transition over. I understand that it's difficult when monetisation from Youtube is their primary source of income, but to me that suggests poor planning (if the channel is being run as a business).

It's not poor planning, it's literally less than 5 minutes work and all your content is synced. You never have to look at or touch it again. Same with Utreon, Bitchute, and Rumble. Once creators are aware of this it's a decision most likely based on an ideological viewpoint of some kind.

I meant from the point of view that if your business model relies on Youtube revenue to survive, then you're doing it wrong (with the exception of the top 0.01% of creators that actually make significant money over time, which is still going to be short-lived, because, that's life).
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« Reply #26 on: April 24, 2022, 11:14:35 am »
The problem is that the entire concept of the web is broken.
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But to make the necessary AI automation work people have to realize that content shouldn't be created in form encoded for human interaction, it should all be created for machine processing and semantic analysis and semantic search.

Yup, precisely. Internet v3.0 will get it.
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« Reply #27 on: April 24, 2022, 11:16:11 am »
Two years ago I planned to open my YouTube channel. Nothing too serious, I would just like to share some of the crazy Linux projects, probably a niche among niches, so "sponsors" will probably never be a problem because the channel will never get more than a hundred views at best.

For many reasons I haven't started the channel yet, but I'm still thinking about it.

What would you suggest at this point? Youtube as a first start, something else and Youtube as a second option? 

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« Reply #28 on: April 24, 2022, 12:26:12 pm »
Two years ago I planned to open my YouTube channel. Nothing too serious, I would just like to share some of the crazy Linux projects, probably a niche among niches, so "sponsors" will probably never be a problem because the channel will never get more than a hundred views at best.

For many reasons I haven't started the channel yet, but I'm still thinking about it.

What would you suggest at this point? Youtube as a first start, something else and Youtube as a second option? 

Mumble :-//

For a new channel, consider gearing the material for Odysee and mirroring a percentage of it to youtube until they inevitably find something to ping you about, then lower the percentage. As our friend Naomi has finally discovered, after plenty of warning, one by one the channels not pulling in the million views per vid are being yeeted. I hope we see your new channel soon.  :)

To reiterate/reinforce what Dave said,


Locals is a Patreon alternative, not a Youtube-like video platform.
The best alternative Youtube platforms are IMO, ranked:
1) Odysee
2) Utreon
3) Rumble
4) Bitchute a distant last

Both Odysee and Utreon have Patreon like features as well as superchats for live shows.

There are others like Vimeo and Daily Motion but the traction is practically zero.

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Re: Youtube/Google is evil, time to fight back
« Reply #29 on: April 24, 2022, 12:53:26 pm »
Two years ago I planned to open my YouTube channel. Nothing too serious, I would just like to share some of the crazy Linux projects, probably a niche among niches, so "sponsors" will probably never be a problem because the channel will never get more than a hundred views at best.
For many reasons I haven't started the channel yet, but I'm still thinking about it.
What would you suggest at this point? Youtube as a first start, something else and Youtube as a second option? 

Youtube without a doubt. It's where all the discoverability still is.
All the other platforms "come for free" so to speak if you are a Youtuber. Upload to Youtube and your content automatically gets mirrored on the other sites if you set that.
 
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« Reply #30 on: April 24, 2022, 12:56:42 pm »
As our friend Naomi has finally discovered, after plenty of warning, one by one the channels not pulling in the million views per vid are being yeeted.

There is zero evidence that happens.
 

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« Reply #31 on: April 24, 2022, 01:27:09 pm »
As our friend Naomi has finally discovered, after plenty of warning, one by one the channels not pulling in the million views per vid are being yeeted.

There is zero evidence that happens.

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Why does Odysee exist?

Nearly every video I see now, OK, you're the exception, the creators complain about the algo, the shadow banning, the copyright matching, the word mincing, the nutters in the comments section. I watch a few hours of internet vids a week and more and more the channels big and small are regularly grumbling and e-begging more than ever.

They came for Jack Vale the other day because after ten years they are sick of him farting on the internet. Why would they do that?

All I'm saying, my evidence is the creators I watch who have been affected earlier and for longer are much happier now over on the alts and just flicking a select portion of the content up on youtube for the masses and for the legacy viewers or for those who want to share to legacy viewers.

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« Reply #32 on: April 24, 2022, 02:46:47 pm »
Patreon are just as bad. They banned Sydney Watson because they disagree with her political views. What's so bad is it wasn't because of anything she said on Patreon, but elsewhere online. If Dave says something they dislike on this forum, they might ban him. It doesn't matter if you agree with Sydney's political views or not and this isn't the place to discuss them. The fact companies are monitoring people's online activity and banning them because they say something they don't like is dangerous.
 
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« Reply #33 on: April 24, 2022, 06:16:22 pm »
All of those networks end up the same, for the same reasons.

Odysee is currently better, but wait till it grows and some big corporation buys it, and it'll do exactly the same shit. Meanwhile, enjoy.

Most of those companies have a political agenda, so it's not just about the money. This is concerning indeed. Probably inevitable though. The only thing that can help avoiding this is to "divide and replicate". Avoid concentration of powers, and you solve the problem.
 

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« Reply #34 on: April 24, 2022, 06:53:26 pm »
I've just watched the video posted at the start of the thread. I don't follow her channel, but going by Google's super woke ads, I would have thought they'd love her. She's a Chinese lesbian with fake tits, which should help, rather than hinder her. Google claim to be all for the rights of ethnic minorities, women performing traditionally thought of as men's jobs and LGBTQ rights and she ticks plenty of boxes. She should tell YouTube, they're discriminating against because she's a gay Chinese woman and be sure to use the following words: racist, homophobic and misogynist. Those words trigger woketard managers.
 
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Re: Youtube/Google is evil, time to fight back
« Reply #35 on: April 24, 2022, 06:57:12 pm »
All of those networks end up the same, for the same reasons.

Odysee is currently better, but wait till it grows and some big corporation buys it, and it'll do exactly the same shit. Meanwhile, enjoy.

Most of those companies have a political agenda, so it's not just about the money. This is concerning indeed. Probably inevitable though. The only thing that can help avoiding this is to "divide and replicate". Avoid concentration of powers, and you solve the problem.
The ideal would be an open source P2P system that cannot be "bought".
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« Reply #36 on: April 24, 2022, 07:10:27 pm »
I'm watching some channels on Odysee for a while now and from a user's perspective they have several issues. When the video resolution option is available I have to select 1080 to get an acceptable image quality (480 on YouTube works fine for me). Anything up to 720 looks like crap, expecially motions. Still images, e.g. a schematic, are mostly fine. Videos often stop randomly and I have to reload the page. Luckily the reloaded video starts where it stopped before. The algorithm for video recommendations seems to promote SJW/woke/scam/conspiracy themed videos on some special trigger words in video titles. I had this several times when watching electronics videos and I strongly dislike it.
 

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« Reply #37 on: April 24, 2022, 08:00:09 pm »
Osysee's search engine is terrible. If I search for Owon, for example, it returns hits for Owen and God knows what else. They hate to admit when they don't have many matches and just show you a list of irrelevant junk.
 

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« Reply #38 on: April 24, 2022, 08:08:24 pm »
I like Odysee but my concern is, I read they allow anything on there such as hate speeches that could give governments like the UK the justification to ban it from their country (if out of their jurisdiction to force them to change) which might lead to it's downfall.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/14/odysee-video-platform-nazi-content-not-grounds-for-removal
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Video platform chief says Nazi posts on white superiority do not merit removal

A leaked email from an Odysee executive suggests the site favoured by the far right could do more to restrict extremists

A top executive at the video sharing platform Odysee wrote guidance to moderators in late April that a “Nazi that makes videos about the superiority of the white race” would not be grounds by itself for removal from the platform, according to a leaked email obtained by the Guardian. The platform, whose owner, LBRY Inc, is currently being sued by the Securities and Exchange Commission for trading in unregistered securities, has been increasingly popular with extremists who have been banned from other platforms, and who are attracted by Odysee’s cryptocurrency-based monetization program.

Explosives and weaponry found at US far-right protests, documents revealThe emails, sent in error to a user who had been complaining about neo-Nazi content on the platform, suggest that the platform is not doing as much as it can to restrict extremists. Initially, the user had emailed Odysee’s general contact address to warn that “Nazi propagandist Eric Striker has announced plans to use Odysee to stream his podcast”, referring to the alias used by New York-based neo-Nazi Joseph Jordan. The user then linked to Jordan’s channel on the site, as well as 10 other additional neo-Nazi, white nationalist or far-right extremist channels.

Jordan has been a key figure in the half-decade-long resurgence of white supremacist organizing, having collaborated with US-based organizers for the neo-fascist Golden Dawn party, participated in the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville in 2017, and lent his support to the formation of the white nationalist and antisemitic National Justice party. His most energetic work has been as what the Southern Poverty Law Center describes as “one of the most prolific content creators in the alt-right”: as a writer or podcaster. He has contributed prolifically to influential extremist outlets like the Daily Stormer, the Right Stuff podcast network and to his own website, National Justice. Asked about Jordan’s activities, an SPLC spokesman, Michael Edison Hayden, wrote in an email that, “Joseph Jordan will tell you to an inch away from your face that he’s a proud neo-Nazi. He’s also arguably the most prolific hate propagandist of the last five years, and his venom comes out very, very sharply in particular for Jewish people and the LGBTQ community.”

Hayden added: “That’s why tech companies typically suspend him – he puts other people in danger and pollutes your brand with such a palpably acrid taste.” Despite this history, and in direct reference to the user complaint, Julian Chandra, the vice-president for growth at LBRY, which owns both Odysee and created the blockchain-based video-sharing protocol that underpins it, wrote: “Eric Striker is a white supremacist, but that has nothing to do with him being on Odysee. What matters is if he breaks rules.”

Chandra added: “Have a look at the title of the video: if it appears to be inciting hatred toward an ethnic group or whatever; the title should be scrubbed. But that doesn’t mean the video should be removed unless it does break community guidelines.” Chandra continued: “Also just being a white nationalist or nazi isn’t grounds for removal.

Are you nazi that makes videos about the superiority of the white race? That is NOT grounds for removal. “If you’re on the other hand, dehumanizing a race or doing things against our guidelines, that is grounds for removal,” he concluded. On the idea that white supremacist beliefs can be articulated without dehumanizing other groups, Hayden, the SPLC spokesperson, said: “White supremacy is inherently dehumanizing.” The Guardian’s review of channels linked to by the complainant revealed scores of extremist videos, some of which have been viewed thousands of times.

Variously they promoted antisemitic conspiracy theories – including versions of the “Great Replacement” narrative, claiming Jews were orchestrating the demographic replacement of white people through mass immigration. They also glorified Hitler and other Nazis, showed meetings and rallies held by extremist parties like National Justice and Nordic Resistance, promoted disinformation about Covid-19 vaccines, and featured titles like The Pure Evil of the Jews, Second American Civil War, Treblinka Wasn’t a Death Camp, and They Want You Dead, White Man.

Odysee and LBRY employees did not immediately respond to requests for comment on the apparent moderation guidance Chandra offered. A month before that email exchange, the SEC filed a complaint against Odysee’s owner, LBRY Inc, arguing that it had raised funds through issues of the LBC cryptocurrency, and in doing so had traded an unregistered security. Creators on the site can also earn the cryptocurrency by means such as including tips from viewers. Recent videos on Jordan’s livestreaming channels had earned the approximate equivalent of $5 per stream.

Although Chandra, the LBRY vice-president, sent his guidance in error to the original complainant, he warned others against sharing the underlying reasons for moderation decisions. “Please note also, we don’t need to provide our judgements to the people that complain. It’s none of their business how we act in response,” Chandra wrote.



Then there's a safety bill act in the UK that focuses on hate content:
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/online-safety-law-to-be-strengthened-to-stamp-out-illegal-content
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Online Safety Bill strengthened with new list of criminal content for tech firms to remove as a priority

Department for Digital, Culture, Media & Sport, Home Office, The Rt Hon Nadine Dorries MP, and The Rt Hon Priti Patel MP
Published 4 February 2022

Digital Secretary Nadine Dorries today announced extra priority illegal offences to be written on the face of the bill include revenge porn, hate crime, fraud, the sale of illegal drugs or weapons, the promotion or facilitation of suicide, people smuggling and sexual exploitation. Terrorism and child sexual abuse are already included.

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It will clamp down on pimps and human traffickers, extremist groups encouraging violence and racial hate against minorities


Well I hope the two (governments and hate campaigners) don't ruin it for everyone else enjoying the platform.
 

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« Reply #39 on: April 24, 2022, 08:08:38 pm »
I've just watched the video posted at the start of the thread. I don't follow her channel, but going by Google's super woke ads, I would have thought they'd love her. She's a Chinese lesbian with fake tits, which should help, rather than hinder her. Google claim to be all for the rights of ethnic minorities, women performing traditionally thought of as men's jobs and LGBTQ rights and she ticks plenty of boxes. She should tell YouTube, they're discriminating against because she's a gay Chinese woman and be sure to use the following words: racist, homophobic and misogynist. Those words trigger woketard managers.
She and her viewers objectify whamen and promote harmful stereotypes which lead to discrespecting whamen.
Also, think of all the young girls who will believe they also need to get implants just to be accepted in the industry.

Besides, all social justice is manufactured by Reptilians. They pick a cause which aligns with their goals and then the media promote the cause and then you end up believing the cause. Starting with a belief (even if one promoted last year) and expecting the media to promote it now is 100% backwards, you might as well go and start giving orders to the Lizards.
 

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« Reply #40 on: April 24, 2022, 08:40:34 pm »
Everything Google does is fake and a calculated strategy to deceive the public.

This is the era of fake everything. Including Reptilians.

I've just watched the video posted at the start of the thread. I don't follow her channel, but going by Google's super woke ads, I would have thought they'd love her. She's a Chinese lesbian with fake tits, which should help, rather than hinder her. Google claim to be all for the rights of ethnic minorities, women performing traditionally thought of as men's jobs and LGBTQ rights and she ticks plenty of boxes. She should tell YouTube, they're discriminating against because she's a gay Chinese woman and be sure to use the following words: racist, homophobic and misogynist. Those words trigger woketard managers.
She and her viewers objectify whamen and promote harmful stereotypes which lead to discrespecting whamen.
Also, think of all the young girls who will believe they also need to get implants just to be accepted in the industry.

Besides, all social justice is manufactured by Reptilians. They pick a cause which aligns with their goals and then the media promote the cause and then you end up believing the cause. Starting with a belief (even if one promoted last year) and expecting the media to promote it now is 100% backwards, you might as well go and start giving orders to the Lizards.
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« Reply #41 on: April 24, 2022, 08:54:08 pm »
Patreon are just as bad. They banned Sydney Watson because they disagree with her political views. What's so bad is it wasn't because of anything she said on Patreon, but elsewhere online. If Dave says something they dislike on this forum, they might ban him. It doesn't matter if you agree with Sydney's political views or not and this isn't the place to discuss them. The fact companies are monitoring people's online activity and banning them because they say something they don't like is dangerous.

I've never heard of her and have no idea what her views are, but watching that video I would say she's intelligent, articulate and overall sounds very reasonable. Whether we call it "cancel culture", a "culture war" or something else, this banning people over random things they do or say somewhere is scary, it is quite literally authoritarian oppression no different than what the most reviled tyrants throughout history have done. Every one of those tyrants and their followers believed in their cause, believed they  were on the right side of history and believed what they were doing to be noble and just. The irony is that type of personality will steadfastly refuse to see the similarity between what they're doing and what other authoritarian figures of the past have done. The only good thing about it is that these movements have a tendency to eat their own as they get divided by various purity tests and eventually collapse.
 
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« Reply #42 on: April 24, 2022, 09:00:36 pm »
Patreon are just as bad. They banned Sydney Watson because they disagree with her political views. What's so bad is it wasn't because of anything she said on Patreon, but elsewhere online. If Dave says something they dislike on this forum, they might ban him. It doesn't matter if you agree with Sydney's political views or not and this isn't the place to discuss them. The fact companies are monitoring people's online activity and banning them because they say something they don't like is dangerous.

I've never heard of her and have no idea what her views are, but watching that video I would say she's intelligent, articulate and overall sounds very reasonable. Whether we call it "cancel culture", a "culture war" or something else, this banning people over random things they do or say somewhere is scary, it is quite literally authoritarian oppression no different than what the most reviled tyrants throughout history have done. Every one of those tyrants and their followers believed in their cause, believed they  were on the right side of history and believed what they were doing to be noble and just. The irony is that type of personality will steadfastly refuse to see the similarity between what they're doing and what other authoritarian figures of the past have done. The only good thing about it is that these movements have a tendency to eat their own as they get divided by various purity tests and eventually collapse.
The most scary thing about cancel culture is that you get one chance. One bad word and they non-person you, you will lose your income and will be an outcast.
Society decided some time ago, that we will not do capital punishment, and even after being convicted for crimes (after prison), you can redeem yourself and re integrate.
Not anymore, because whatever you did stays online forever, and you will be a pariah. One word on a bad day.
 

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« Reply #43 on: April 24, 2022, 09:08:23 pm »
The most scary thing about cancel culture is that you get one chance. One bad word and they non-person you, you will lose your income and will be an outcast.
Society decided some time ago, that we will not do capital punishment, and even after being convicted for crimes (after prison), you can redeem yourself and re integrate.
Not anymore, because whatever you did stays online forever, and you will be a pariah. One word on a bad day.

Yes and the very same people fall all over themselves to demonize the justice system, to fight against excessive prison sentences, to fight against capital punishment, to give every criminal chance after chance after chance. Yet ironically they are happy to completely destroy a person's life over a single comment made somewhere, even if it was 20+ years ago, and there is no path to redemption. An apology is never enough, in fact it is the opposite, it is an admission of guilt. Never, ever apologize, they will spot the weak moment and pounce like a gazelle on a sick and straggling prey.
 

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« Reply #44 on: April 24, 2022, 09:25:55 pm »
I like Odysee but my concern is, I read they allow anything on there such as hate speeches that could give governments like the UK the justification to ban it from their country (if out of their jurisdiction to force them to change) which might lead to it's downfall.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/14/odysee-video-platform-nazi-content-not-grounds-for-removal
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Video platform chief says Nazi posts on white superiority do not merit removal

A leaked email from an Odysee executive suggests the site favoured by the far right could do more to restrict extremists

A top executive at the video sharing platform Odysee wrote guidance to moderators in late April that a “Nazi that makes videos about the superiority of the white race” would not be grounds by itself for removal from the platform, according to a leaked email obtained by the Guardian. The platform, whose owner, LBRY Inc, is currently being sued by the Securities and Exchange Commission for trading in unregistered securities, has been increasingly popular with extremists who have been banned from other platforms, and who are attracted by Odysee’s cryptocurrency-based monetization program.

Explosives and weaponry found at US far-right protests, documents revealThe emails, sent in error to a user who had been complaining about neo-Nazi content on the platform, suggest that the platform is not doing as much as it can to restrict extremists. Initially, the user had emailed Odysee’s general contact address to warn that “Nazi propagandist Eric Striker has announced plans to use Odysee to stream his podcast”, referring to the alias used by New York-based neo-Nazi Joseph Jordan. The user then linked to Jordan’s channel on the site, as well as 10 other additional neo-Nazi, white nationalist or far-right extremist channels.

Jordan has been a key figure in the half-decade-long resurgence of white supremacist organizing, having collaborated with US-based organizers for the neo-fascist Golden Dawn party, participated in the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville in 2017, and lent his support to the formation of the white nationalist and antisemitic National Justice party. His most energetic work has been as what the Southern Poverty Law Center describes as “one of the most prolific content creators in the alt-right”: as a writer or podcaster. He has contributed prolifically to influential extremist outlets like the Daily Stormer, the Right Stuff podcast network and to his own website, National Justice. Asked about Jordan’s activities, an SPLC spokesman, Michael Edison Hayden, wrote in an email that, “Joseph Jordan will tell you to an inch away from your face that he’s a proud neo-Nazi. He’s also arguably the most prolific hate propagandist of the last five years, and his venom comes out very, very sharply in particular for Jewish people and the LGBTQ community.”

Hayden added: “That’s why tech companies typically suspend him – he puts other people in danger and pollutes your brand with such a palpably acrid taste.” Despite this history, and in direct reference to the user complaint, Julian Chandra, the vice-president for growth at LBRY, which owns both Odysee and created the blockchain-based video-sharing protocol that underpins it, wrote: “Eric Striker is a white supremacist, but that has nothing to do with him being on Odysee. What matters is if he breaks rules.”

Chandra added: “Have a look at the title of the video: if it appears to be inciting hatred toward an ethnic group or whatever; the title should be scrubbed. But that doesn’t mean the video should be removed unless it does break community guidelines.” Chandra continued: “Also just being a white nationalist or nazi isn’t grounds for removal.

Are you nazi that makes videos about the superiority of the white race? That is NOT grounds for removal. “If you’re on the other hand, dehumanizing a race or doing things against our guidelines, that is grounds for removal,” he concluded. On the idea that white supremacist beliefs can be articulated without dehumanizing other groups, Hayden, the SPLC spokesperson, said: “White supremacy is inherently dehumanizing.” The Guardian’s review of channels linked to by the complainant revealed scores of extremist videos, some of which have been viewed thousands of times.

Variously they promoted antisemitic conspiracy theories – including versions of the “Great Replacement” narrative, claiming Jews were orchestrating the demographic replacement of white people through mass immigration. They also glorified Hitler and other Nazis, showed meetings and rallies held by extremist parties like National Justice and Nordic Resistance, promoted disinformation about Covid-19 vaccines, and featured titles like The Pure Evil of the Jews, Second American Civil War, Treblinka Wasn’t a Death Camp, and They Want You Dead, White Man.

Odysee and LBRY employees did not immediately respond to requests for comment on the apparent moderation guidance Chandra offered. A month before that email exchange, the SEC filed a complaint against Odysee’s owner, LBRY Inc, arguing that it had raised funds through issues of the LBC cryptocurrency, and in doing so had traded an unregistered security. Creators on the site can also earn the cryptocurrency by means such as including tips from viewers. Recent videos on Jordan’s livestreaming channels had earned the approximate equivalent of $5 per stream.

Although Chandra, the LBRY vice-president, sent his guidance in error to the original complainant, he warned others against sharing the underlying reasons for moderation decisions. “Please note also, we don’t need to provide our judgements to the people that complain. It’s none of their business how we act in response,” Chandra wrote.



Then there's a safety bill act in the UK that focuses on hate content:
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/online-safety-law-to-be-strengthened-to-stamp-out-illegal-content
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Online Safety Bill strengthened with new list of criminal content for tech firms to remove as a priority

Department for Digital, Culture, Media & Sport, Home Office, The Rt Hon Nadine Dorries MP, and The Rt Hon Priti Patel MP
Published 4 February 2022

Digital Secretary Nadine Dorries today announced extra priority illegal offences to be written on the face of the bill include revenge porn, hate crime, fraud, the sale of illegal drugs or weapons, the promotion or facilitation of suicide, people smuggling and sexual exploitation. Terrorism and child sexual abuse are already included.

...

It will clamp down on pimps and human traffickers, extremist groups encouraging violence and racial hate against minorities


Well I hope the two (governments and hate campaigners) don't ruin it for everyone else enjoying the platform.
That's the Guardian talking complete bollocks as usual. The far-right don't pose a significant threat in the UK. There have only been two deaths in the last 70 years due to far-right extremism: Jo Cox and Makram Ali (Finsbury Park mosque attack), compared to many more due Islamic extremism and the IRA. Radical left-wing groups such as BLM and extreme trans activists pose a similar threat to the far-right, yet no one whines about them. There's loads of hate on Twitter about killing terfs (trans exclusionary feminists) and whites which is tolerated, yet people get kicked off all the time just for saying things like trans women are men.
 
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Re: Youtube/Google is evil, time to fight back
« Reply #45 on: April 24, 2022, 10:28:53 pm »
(I'm sensing that this thread may unfortunately end up getting locked...)
But yeah, this is all the "woke" agenda that is currently all the rage in most of the big media/social network platforms. It's exactly the same all over the world (at least, the western world) in practically all of those companies, almost to the letter.
 

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Re: Youtube/Google is evil, time to fight back
« Reply #46 on: April 24, 2022, 11:12:58 pm »
Trying to get back to the original problem, any idea why doesn't Odysee/LBRY have a way to build a "cache node" and get rewarded for providing bandwidth?
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« Reply #47 on: April 24, 2022, 11:42:46 pm »
They probably don't have as much money to spend on this yet. Sure, it might be a "chicken and egg" situation, but they are at least ten years behind the market leader and it is already quite impressive what was achieved already.
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« Reply #48 on: April 24, 2022, 11:59:54 pm »
What about a way to build a "cache node" and prioritize those who have donated to the creator of the content? That would add value to donating money since the donor gets faster downloads. And those who aren't interested in donating money can donate bandwidth instead, still benefiting the creators they want to support.
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« Reply #49 on: April 25, 2022, 02:20:52 am »
Patreon are just as bad. They banned Sydney Watson because they disagree with her political views. What's so bad is it wasn't because of anything she said on Patreon, but elsewhere online. If Dave says something they dislike on this forum, they might ban him.

Pateron's problem is who works for/runs their "Global Trust & Safety".
If you look up some of their current/recent staff it make sense.
1. Sean Bonawitz - Senior Director, Head of Trust & Safety - Formerly had same job(s) at TikTok, Youtube, Google.
2. Jacqueline Hart - Former Senior  Director, Global Trust & Safety - global online payments fraud, trust and safety, compliance and content moderation areas within risk management.  Speaker at such international events as Merchant Risk Council, PaymentsEd, RSA, CNP Expo, and card brand summits.

This "Global Trust & Safety" is another BS term, it's all about credit card financial matters, nothing about ethics or having consistent rules.
The money laundering things I get, but they (the credit card companies) need to drop the "customer is always right" nonsense.
Sometimes the customer is a con artist, or a troll, and send money to someone just so they can trigger a chargeback (result -$40 donation).
Or donate to a Patreon creator, download everything, then call the bank and complain just so you get it for free.

This Woke nonsense is a symptom not a cause, the real issue is listening to cranks who use their personal credit cards to drain other people's bank accounts.
After a while the bank gets annoyed about how much this is costing them, and wrongly hassle Youtube/Patreon/Google, instead of telling a handful of their customers to take a long walk off a short pier.
 


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