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Youtube/Google is evil, time to fight back

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tszaboo:

--- Quote from: madires on April 25, 2022, 02:41:56 pm ---
--- Quote from: tszaboo on April 25, 2022, 02:03:23 pm ---Attention, you really think? I have x subscribers, who explicitly told Youtube by pressing the button that they are interested in my content.
And I have videos that didn't have 1/4th the impressions than my subscriber count. Meaning that they haven't been shown the video, because the mighty Algorithm decided it is not Worthy of their time. At this point, asking to subscribe is completely pointless.

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Electronics is a niche topic. Too uninteresting to be promoted. The algorithms promote stuff which has potential for much more views (= more ad revenue).

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My niche isn't electronics. My conclusions were quite general, after doing some research on how things are on YT.
I would say I am slightly successful, because managed to get monetized in the first year, and get 8K subscribers. But also my views are falling maybe 30% every month, because ai.

Poe:
Naomi says her business is "Youtube".  It isn't.

Naomi's business is selling content.  Youtube just happens to be her only customer.  Like if I made educational sing-a-long videos for kids and just sold them to PornHub. 

Youtube is not her boss either, it's her business partner.  A business partner that doesn't value her content.  Like PornHub not valuing my sing-a-long videos.  In fact, they'd probably be flagged and practically hidden on the Pornhub search results.  Like Youtube's situation, both likely just flag stuff and move on.  Too many content creators, not worth the resources.

If I was in her business, I'd either find a different partner or improve my value to my existing business partner.    Maybe she could pretend to have a mental disorder and act like a victim.  That has been a strong trend for the last couple decades on Youtube/Twitter/Tiktok/Reddit/etc and it's just gaining more steam.    Or she could look to one of the multitude of outrage merchants who are quite successful on the platform.  She could tell us who's lying to us.   We love that apparently.


RJSV:
Yeah, thanks. A bad scene there, when someone just wanted use 'groggle' even for business related search, and you've got that whole mess, to figuratively shove aside,...from the distractions.
And 'politics'; first time through (casual search), you get, like 2 relevant 'hits', from news a couple weeks ago.  "That's not right? ", I'm thinking, where's any other coverage ?
Then, later same search and 3 or 4 different articles do come up, but seems erratic..., Like some other agenda when you're simply looking for 'Campus Speaker chased by mob'...Too much to ask ? Yeah somebody's algorithm stinks.
   Anyway, a very relevant topic: I even bought the book, Adnoids for Dummies', (sic) so I could operate the cell phone user interface... Couldn't even find basic stuff, like which buttons do what; that book was so chock full of ads, for APPs.
   Cardiac specialist had 'Google Forms', for starters. I'm thinking; Do I REALLY feel OK with Google, all up in my medical details (boring), now ?

YurkshireLad:

--- Quote ---Youtube is not her boss either, it's her business partner.  A business partner that doesn't value her content.
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I would cynically argue that content creators are YouTube's products, not business partners. They only exist to create money for YouTube. Content Creators exist at the whim of YouTube's AI, and YT cares not one iota about them as long as they can make more ad revenue for the behemoth.

Simon:

--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on April 24, 2022, 01:27:09 pm ---
--- Quote from: EEVblog on April 24, 2022, 12:56:42 pm ---
--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on April 24, 2022, 12:26:12 pm ---As our friend Naomi has finally discovered, after plenty of warning, one by one the channels not pulling in the million views per vid are being yeeted.

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There is zero evidence that happens.

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?

Why does Odysee exist?

Nearly every video I see now, OK, you're the exception, the creators complain about the algo, the shadow banning, the copyright matching, the word mincing, the nutters in the comments section. I watch a few hours of internet vids a week and more and more the channels big and small are regularly grumbling and e-begging more than ever.

They came for Jack Vale the other day because after ten years they are sick of him farting on the internet. Why would they do that?

All I'm saying, my evidence is the creators I watch who have been affected earlier and for longer are much happier now over on the alts and just flicking a select portion of the content up on youtube for the masses and for the legacy viewers or for those who want to share to legacy viewers.



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On youtube the nuts might be in the comments but on odysee they are making the videos.... I look now and then but I don't see anything that appealing other than what I already know about like Dave. I actually pay for youtube so if I did watch dave on odysee he would not make any money. The whole sponsorship thing is a problem to me, I would rather have the model of paying an amount each month to the platform to distribute among the creators I watch, but we have been duped into this everything is free crap so creators have to beg for donations, you want the service? then pay for it!

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