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Youtube/Google is evil, time to fight back
madires:
--- Quote from: Poe on April 25, 2022, 05:34:12 pm ---Naomi's business is selling content. Youtube just happens to be her only customer. Like if I made educational sing-a-long videos for kids and just sold them to PornHub.
Youtube is not her boss either, it's her business partner.
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I'd define YouTube as a video hoster with monetization service. The content you're creating is the product, and maybe you'll earn some money if you're lucky. It's like an online marketplace which takes a huge percentage as commission for providing the platform, a CDN, and payment processing.
MrMobodies:
--- Quote from: Zero999 on April 24, 2022, 09:25:55 pm ---That's the Guardian talking complete bollocks as usual. The far-right don't pose a significant threat in the UK. There have only been two deaths in the last 70 years due to far-right extremism: Jo Cox and Makram Ali (Finsbury Park mosque attack), compared to many more due Islamic extremism and the IRA. Radical left-wing groups such as BLM and extreme trans activists pose a similar threat to the far-right, yet no one whines about them. There's loads of hate on Twitter about killing terfs (trans exclusionary feminists) and whites which is tolerated, yet people get kicked off all the time just for saying things like trans women are men.
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So I can't trust any newspaper. Sometimes I find I have to read the same story from several different sources just to get a picture when I suspect something is missing or it's vague on details but then even when lengthy like that one.
Simon:
newspapers always have an angle, so I don't read any of them as they all lie.
Zero999:
--- Quote from: Simon on April 25, 2022, 06:23:15 pm ---
--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on April 24, 2022, 01:27:09 pm ---
--- Quote from: EEVblog on April 24, 2022, 12:56:42 pm ---
--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on April 24, 2022, 12:26:12 pm ---As our friend Naomi has finally discovered, after plenty of warning, one by one the channels not pulling in the million views per vid are being yeeted.
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There is zero evidence that happens.
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Why does Odysee exist?
Nearly every video I see now, OK, you're the exception, the creators complain about the algo, the shadow banning, the copyright matching, the word mincing, the nutters in the comments section. I watch a few hours of internet vids a week and more and more the channels big and small are regularly grumbling and e-begging more than ever.
They came for Jack Vale the other day because after ten years they are sick of him farting on the internet. Why would they do that?
All I'm saying, my evidence is the creators I watch who have been affected earlier and for longer are much happier now over on the alts and just flicking a select portion of the content up on youtube for the masses and for the legacy viewers or for those who want to share to legacy viewers.
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On youtube the nuts might be in the comments but on odysee they are making the videos.... I look now and then but I don't see anything that appealing other than what I already know about like Dave. I actually pay for youtube so if I did watch dave on odysee he would not make any money. The whole sponsorship thing is a problem to me, I would rather have the model of paying an amount each month to the platform to distribute among the creators I watch, but we have been duped into this everything is free crap so creators have to beg for donations, you want the service? then pay for it!
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I agree. It's difficult to find good videos on Odysee. I tend to use YouTube to find creators I like and check their Odysee accounts for content they can't put on YouTube because of censorship.
Censorship in the west has become progressively worse over the last 25 years. It started with the idea of stopping bad people push dangerous and harmful ideas, but the road to hell is paved with good intentions. We need to allow people to put across bad and dangerous ideas, so they can be rebutted with well-reasoned, evidence-based counterarguments, otherwise we won't learn and develop as a society.
--- Quote from: MrMobodies on April 25, 2022, 07:23:21 pm ---
--- Quote from: Zero999 on April 24, 2022, 09:25:55 pm ---That's the Guardian talking complete bollocks as usual. The far-right don't pose a significant threat in the UK. There have only been two deaths in the last 70 years due to far-right extremism: Jo Cox and Makram Ali (Finsbury Park mosque attack), compared to many more due Islamic extremism and the IRA. Radical left-wing groups such as BLM and extreme trans activists pose a similar threat to the far-right, yet no one whines about them. There's loads of hate on Twitter about killing terfs (trans exclusionary feminists) and whites which is tolerated, yet people get kicked off all the time just for saying things like trans women are men.
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So I can't trust any newspaper. Sometimes I find I have to read the same story from several different sources just to get a picture when I suspect something is missing or it's vague on details but then even when lengthy like that one.
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They generally don't outright lie, but they do have blatant political leanings. For example, a right wing paper might blame long doctor's waiting lists on immigration and the government's botched handling of the pandemic, yet a left leaning publication will cite lack of government funding and insufficient pay for hard working doctors who migrated to the UK to help the struggling NHS. In reality both are correct: we import useful foreign medical staff, but immigration does put pressure on the NHS, the government have mishandled the pandemic and funding is an issue, although it's more of a case in how it's spent, rather than too little.
I prefer to look for different news sources, especially those reporting UK stories from abroad, which I tend to trust more as they're less influenced by the UK government.
Halcyon:
--- Quote from: Zero999 on April 25, 2022, 09:06:49 pm ---It's difficult to find good videos on Odysee. I tend to use YouTube to find creators I like and check their Odysee accounts for content they can't put on YouTube because of censorship.
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I think that comes down to your viewing habits. Television (paid or free-to-air) is exactly the same.
Personally, I'm the kind of person who knows what I want to watch and seek out that content/show/episode, whether that be online streaming media or television. I don't mindlessly click through stuff or wait for recommendations to come to me. I usually come across new things to watch through word-of-mouth.
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