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Youtube/Google is evil, time to fight back
Ed.Kloonk:
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On youtube the nuts might be in the comments but on odysee they are making the videos.... I look now and then but I don't see anything that appealing other than what I already know about like Dave. I actually pay for youtube so if I did watch dave on odysee he would not make any money. The whole sponsorship thing is a problem to me, I would rather have the model of paying an amount each month to the platform to distribute among the creators I watch, but we have been duped into this everything is free crap so creators have to beg for donations, you want the service? then pay for it!
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In the very early days I used to download Dave's vids from the server so I could watch in a quality other than standard y/t potato mode. I didn't have the bandwidth to stream in HD and the flash/firefox implementation was cancer.
The e-begging is prolly here to stay no matter what platform they spruik on. But I just get tired of the "youtube shafted me" videos.
The nutters on Odysee will only decrease in proportion as youtube kicks off (and ticks off) more and more harmless presenters.
I suggest that soon it may be that nutters remain on youtube. Those prepper clowns can manage and are motivated to stay one step ahead of the algo and yet they continuously forecast the imminent collapse of society for five years straight (so buy my prepper stuff before it's too late!) ::)
It is why I now urge new creators to go back to basics a bit. The best material is of the spare-time nature. That said if gaming the algo is your goal, fill yer boots so long as it's understood that sometimes the machine wins.
NiHaoMike:
--- Quote from: Simon on April 25, 2022, 06:23:15 pm ---The whole sponsorship thing is a problem to me, I would rather have the model of paying an amount each month to the platform to distribute among the creators I watch...
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That has the problem of inadvertently supporting creators you don't want to support, for example flat earthers and clowns staging plane crashes. It's especially problematic if you specifically want to watch the video in order to criticize it, but that's counterproductive if they get paid for the view.
Ed.Kloonk:
--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on April 26, 2022, 03:34:35 am ---and clowns staging plane crashes
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And the aviation channels contorting themselves trying to distance themselves from it. :palm:
Simon:
--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on April 26, 2022, 03:34:35 am ---
--- Quote from: Simon on April 25, 2022, 06:23:15 pm ---The whole sponsorship thing is a problem to me, I would rather have the model of paying an amount each month to the platform to distribute among the creators I watch...
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That has the problem of inadvertently supporting creators you don't want to support, for example flat earthers and clowns staging plane crashes. It's especially problematic if you specifically want to watch the video in order to criticize it, but that's counterproductive if they get paid for the view.
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They would be getting far more from their zombie followers and if one were to watch something like that then it would be a tiny portion of view time so not much. Ultimately your argument is flawed, they should not be on youtube, or their channel should be entirely demonetized.
Free speech and all is all well and good when there is the rebuttal to stupid ideas, but we live in a society of silo's. If I came across some flat earther videa I would not even bother to comment on it as the comments would already be full of their fans who won't be told by some stranger on the internet. So all the videos do is drag more people in and make it look like these people are worth listening to.
EEVblog:
--- Quote from: Simon on April 25, 2022, 06:23:15 pm ---On youtube the nuts might be in the comments but on odysee they are making the videos.... I look now and then but I don't see anything that appealing other than what I already know about like Dave. I actually pay for youtube so if I did watch dave on odysee he would not make any money. The whole sponsorship thing is a problem to me, I would rather have the model of paying an amount each month to the platform to distribute among the creators I watch, but we have been duped into this everything is free crap so creators have to beg for donations, you want the service? then pay for it!
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Odysee now have a Patreon like subcription service, as does Utreon. In the case of Odysee, 100% goes to the creator. It's brand new but I expect it will become big.
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