Youtube/Google is evil, time to fight back

[NiHaoMike]

(Note that it's not just about Naomi, she just happens to be a popular creator affected by unethical stuff on Youtube's part.)

Here's a list of what to do:
* If you're not already using one, install an adblocker. If you want to, whitelist Youtube to support creators, blocking Google ads everywhere else still makes an impact. (Hiding the ads and "autoclicking" them with AdNauseam instead of blocking them might work better in that it would cost Google the ad views/clicks, but that would also increase their ad view/click count.)
* Don't use Google search, use DuckDuckGo.
* Don't use Chrome, use Firefox or Chromium.
* Don't get Youtube Premium (cancel it if you have it), use an adblocker and give directly to the creators.
* Use Make Internet Noise or similar to waste Google's resources as a protest, use in conjunction with an adblocker. It would also make their data collection less useful although it works best if you minimize the data you're giving them in the first place.
* Use/support more ethical alternatives to Youtube.

[SiliconWizard]

Here's a list of what to do:
* If you're not already using one, install an adblocker. If you want to, whitelist Youtube to support creators, blocking Google ads everywhere else still makes an impact. (Hiding the ads and "autoclicking" them with AdNauseam instead of blocking them might work better in that it would cost Google the ad views/clicks, but that would also increase their ad view/click count.)
* Don't use Google search, use DuckDuckGo.
* Don't use Chrome, use Firefox or Chromium.
* Don't get Youtube Premium (cancel it if you have it), use an adblocker and give directly to the creators.
* Use Make Internet Noise or similar to waste Google's resources as a protest, use in conjunction with an adblocker. It would also make their data collection less useful although it works best if you minimize the data you're giving them in the first place.
* Use/support more ethical alternatives to Youtube.

I personally already do all of the above, except for using "Make Internet Noise", which I didn't know about.

[DiTBho]

oh, miss busty starlet complains 

[DiTBho]

Use/support more ethical alternatives to Youtube.

Which one?

[rsjsouza]

Big tech censorship is not new - just ask conservatives and liberals and their channels that discuss anything against the most accepted narrative of the big tech, CV policies, Ukraine war, etc. That is why a lot of people are going to Rumble, Odysee, Locals, Telegraph and other alternatives. These are still small, but hopefully people wake up and move away. 

[magic]

TheyTube has always had rules against porn.
(TL;DW - did I guess wrong what this thread is about?)

Also related, look up Nasim Aghdam. At least she quit with style

[tszaboo]

I think some time ago they implemented a filter that basically put all content in disadvantage that showed "tits for clickbait" on the thumbnail. Rightly so, it was a way to boost the click of videos that were fail compilations and other junk content like these. I wonder if she was to change the thumbnails, if they would show up in the search results.

[EEVblog]

Use/support more ethical alternatives to Youtube.

Which one?

Odysee is by far the standout. They have just introduced a Patreon-like creator support system where 100% goes to the creator, and 90% of superchats go to the creators.
There is also Utreon which works very well and also has Patreon-like direct subscriptions to creators.

And in that entire video she didn't once mention alternatives? 

[HobGoblyn]

I watch most of my YouTube on the living room TV.

Usually using the Sky Q YouTube app, but I could use the TVs own YouTube app.

Since paying for YouTube premium, it’s been a whole new world of pleasurable viewing, ad free, even if it was twice the price, the amount of YouTube I watch, I would probably still pay.

Sure on my tablet or PC I could use some form of Adblock and not have premium, but I can’t do that when I watch YouTube on the TV, whether I’m using Skys app or the TV app.

[Halcyon]

Use/support more ethical alternatives to Youtube.

Which one?

LBRY/Odysee is really the only viable alternative. Thankfully, some of my favourite content creators have or are slowly making the transition over. I understand that it's difficult when monetisation from Youtube is their primary source of income, but to me that suggests poor planning (if the channel is being run as a business). Revenue from Youtube should only ever be considered a hobby or extra cash. It's too volatile to be anything else long-term. They could turn around and change the rules tomorrow which directly impacts your wallet.

I still use Youtube, but mostly in the following ways:

I watch videos on my laptop which has both the Ghostery and ABP plugins installed -- This means no pre-roll ads, ad banners or video ads during videos.

I download the videos and watch them as normal video files "offline".

[DiTBho]

Hence, alternative[]={ LBRY, Rumble, Odysee, Locals, Telegraph }.
I will study them, I have never used them, thanks for the list 

[John B]

I like odysee, but I find the bandwidth to be limited, so I have to download each video to watch them smoothly. Conveniently odysee has a function for that unlike youtube which views downloading videos as against their ad business model.

Rumble has very fast servers and is smoother than odysee for browsing/streaming vids, making it a good option for watching podcasts and long form vids.

[NiHaoMike]

I like odysee, but I find the bandwidth to be limited, so I have to download each video to watch them smoothly. Conveniently odysee has a function for that unlike youtube which views downloading videos as against their ad business model.

That can really be improved if there's a system to allow anyone to set up a "cache node" and get rewarded for it. The "I have more bandwidth than I actually use" problem has to be very common, "it would be nice if I could use it to help the creators I like."

[Bud]

Sure on my tablet or PC I could use some form of Adblock and not have premium, but I can’t do that when I watch YouTube on the TV, whether I’m using Skys app or the TV app.

If your TV can install APK packages, you could get Smart Tube for Android TV. This is a godsend TV app for watching youtube not only ad-free but also can skip intros and do other stuff.
My TV is fairly old so what I did i got an Amazon Fire stick and installed Smart Tube on it. The other benefit of the Fire stick  it is lightning fast compare to the native TV app. I watch Youtube from the comfort of my reclining chair on a big screen ad-free. 

[MrMobodies]

Here's a list of what to do:

* Don't get Youtube Premium (cancel it if you have it), use an adblocker and give directly to the creators.
* Use Make Internet Noise or similar to waste Google's resources as a protest, use in conjunction with an adblocker. It would also make their data collection less useful although it works best if you minimize the data you're giving them in the first place.

Download Youtube content with Firefox too, (I know some extensions) where you don't see the ads and that'll suffocate them a bit.


Looks like they won't be going anytime soon.
Sometimes they too useful but hopefully other search engines will catch up.
Not only are they afloat in everything and everywhere they seem too powerful.

Maybe one day Thunderf00t will come along and bust it if that happens to be over inflated.

[NiHaoMike]

Sometimes they too useful but hopefully other search engines will catch up.

DuckDuckGo is a good alternative.

[ebclr]

Move to rumble.com

[rsjsouza]

Hence, alternative[]={ LBRY, Rumble, Odysee, Locals, Telegraph }.
I will study them, I have never used them, thanks for the list 

Sorry, I should have said "Telegram" (an alternative to Twitter).

Well, each to its own set of expectations... sure the search results presented are not showing her videos, which hints of shadow banning if it wasn't for the fact these are very dependent on the content previously browsed/watched by the logged account (it is unclear from the video). Also, having several videos with more than 1 million views and almost all of her very recent videos reaching more than 100k views, I wouldn't think the platform is exactly boycotting her. Such numbers would be the envy of many of the tech content creators.

[EEVblog]

Since paying for YouTube premium, it’s been a whole new world of pleasurable viewing, ad free, even if it was twice the price, the amount of YouTube I watch, I would probably still pay.

Me too. I'm happy to pay for what I use, and at least half goes to the creators of the videos I watch.
FYI, about 20% of my Youtube income comes from Premium subscribers.

[Ed.Kloonk]

I like odysee, but I find the bandwidth to be limited, so I have to download each video to watch them smoothly.

Content creators refuse to acknowledge this.

[EEVblog]

LBRY/Odysee is really the only viable alternative. Thankfully, some of my favourite content creators have or are slowly making the transition over. I understand that it's difficult when monetisation from Youtube is their primary source of income, but to me that suggests poor planning (if the channel is being run as a business).

It's not poor planning, it's literally less than 5 minutes work and all your content is synced. You never have to look at or touch it again. Same with Utreon, Bitchute, and Rumble. Once creators are aware of this it's a decision most likely based on an ideological viewpoint of some kind.

[EEVblog]

I like odysee, but I find the bandwidth to be limited, so I have to download each video to watch them smoothly.

Content creators refuse to acknowledge this.

I constantly mention it.

[EEVblog]

Hence, alternative[]={ LBRY, Rumble, Odysee, Locals, Telegraph }.
I will study them, I have never used them, thanks for the list 

Locals is a Patreon alternative, not a Youtube-like video platform.
The best alternative Youtube platforms are IMO, ranked:
1) Odysee
2) Utreon
3) Rumble
4) Bitchute a distant last

Both Odysee and Utreon have Patreon like features as well as superchats for live shows.

There are others like Vimeo and Daily Motion but the traction is practically zero.

If you don't like the random buffering issues with Odysee I recommend Utreon, it's really very nice, but hardly anyone knows about it apart from many gun channels that have moved over there. They have only started some publicity in the last month or so after several years with practically zero publicity or effort.

Rumble is probably bigger then Odysee, but AFAIk I'm the only electronics creator on there. And I don't use it personally.
Bitchute is just horrible, the resolution sucks, they refuse to fix there image etc. I don't recommend it.

With the exception of Rumble, I have talked to the owners and developers of these platform and have helped them shape it. Bitchute is the only one that listened but dismissed my advice outright.

If creators had joined LBRY and then Odysee when I told them too that would have build large audiences on there by now like I have and have gained a huge amount of LBC that was offered early on per view. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

[MrMobodies]

So, you're suggesting we boycott Google (products) then?

I am slowly migrating across different platforms, trying to use Google less and less, so I do one search in DuckDuckGo, I set that as my default home page, then when I am not satisfied or want to see more I select the text, left click and select "search with google" which has a few exclusions one being from Pinterest and some sites that mas spam the search engine with their links to clickbait and troll the user into things so that's one benefit.

There is another search engine I have seen called, Ecosia and I think it is based on Bing.
https://www.ecosia.org

I don't see any option to hide the search suggestions so hid them with Adblock:

I don't know which does what from my blocklist but it's in there somewhere if you don't like being bombarded with search suggestions:

ecosia.org##.typeahead-link
ecosia.org##.banner
ecosia.org##.notifications-banner
ecosia.org##.js-notifications-banner.notifications-banner-placeholder
ecosia.org##.serp-cta-wrapper.margin-top-base.serp-cta-wrapper--with-copy
ecosia.org##.cta__button.button.button--variant-solid-primary.button--size-m.button--text-size-m.visible
ecosia.org##.banner
ecosia.org##.circular
ecosia.org##.earth-icon
ecosia.org##.icon-button.icon-button--elevation-0.icon-button--size-m.icon-button--variant-bare.button.button__clear
ecosia.org##.icon-button.icon-button--elevation-0.icon-button--size-m.icon-button--variant-bare.button.button__clear.button__clear--hidden
ecosia.org##.loading-animation.no-js-hide
ecosia.org##.suggestion-link
ecosia.org##.suggestions.suggestion-list.suggestion-list--variant-default
eu.usatoday.com##.logo

Actually I think I have a few from DuckDuckGo one of them if the suggestions as I can't be bothered switching them off when the cookies sometimes get cleared:

duckduckgo.com##.modal__overlay.js-modal-close
duckduckgo.com##.acp-wrap.js-acp-wrap

[Simon]

Sometimes they too useful but hopefully other search engines will catch up.

DuckDuckGo is a good alternative.

No it's a pile of crap that does not return the same quality of results, theres another one that claims to plant trees with the proceeds and uses bing, that can't find what is in front of it.