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| BrianHG:
--- Quote from: tggzzz on January 16, 2024, 10:36:06 am --- --- Quote from: BrianHG on January 16, 2024, 06:35:20 am ---YT is now wasting my battery power on my laptop and makes it's CPU fan run at full speed. No more 9 hour battery life watching Youtube videos as it's power consumption has gone through the roof. Only a few windows open doing nothing and 2 cores are nailed at 100% usage. Only around 45 minute battery life with too many windows open without even playing the videos. Proof Google is against saving the planet's ecology by wasting CPU cycles. --- End quote --- You should thank gurgle for encouraging you to reclaim your life :) No more look-at-me talking-head videos full of ums/ahs etc that take 30mins of your life before you realise you aren't going to learn anything. Much better to only spend 30s speed-reading text before you realise that. --- End quote --- :( I have an unusual form of mild Dyslexia making my reading 4x slower than the normal populous... Also, watching talking heads about things you already know means you are very poorly using youtube. |
| Veteran68:
--- Quote from: Psi on January 16, 2024, 03:39:42 am ---The annoying thing is that I have Youtube Premium but i guess their adblocker detection doesn't take this into account. Disabled addblocker and the lag disappeared. --- End quote --- --- Quote from: PA0PBZ on January 16, 2024, 09:48:36 am ---If you are using Adblock (Plus), there's a bug that causes this behavior and is currently being worked on: https://gitlab.com/adblockinc/ext/adblockplus/adblockplusui/-/issues/1576#note_1727415603 --- End quote --- I'm also a YT Premium subscriber and I run ABP as well, but have not really seen any of the issues mentioned. Granted I seldom comment on a video, but I'm on YT literally every single day and it has been performing normally for me. I'm not at home now so can't be sure, but I may have "whitelisted" YT in ABP so it doesn't actually try to block anything there. Maybe that's why? |
| SiliconWizard:
This is a constant battle between YT and Adblockers for now. Yes, Adblock+ was the source of the lag, yes, they released a "fix" that somewhat improved things for a while, but they seem to be back to bad now. I'm pretty sure my hypothesis was right, YT is just trying to bombard adblockers with stuff to process just to make things go to a crawl. So adblockers have to adapt to prevent that, but it becomes increasingly tough not to have any performance impact. The most horrific at the moment is the lag while typing comments. It's fun how YT's countermeasures affect commenting. Is it a byproduct of their countermeasures, or explicitely made to annoy users (assuming that not letting them comment would be what they would find most annoying? who knows what's in their twisted minds.) Anyway, long story short, for anyone who hasn't seen it yet, just look at that: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/14129599 The statement looks pretty clear. It's not just that YT will make the experience "suboptimal" for users of adblockers - it's that they claim it's a violation of their TOS. This is a pretty strong statement IMHO. --- Quote ---When you block YouTube ads, you violate YouTube’s Terms of Service. --- End quote --- |
| Karel:
I still don't have any problems watching youtube. No delays, no adds. But I don't login and I don't comment (I don't even have an account) and I use Firefox & Ublock Origin & Privacy Badger & Cookie Autodelete on top of GNU/Linux. |
| chickenHeadKnob:
--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on February 01, 2024, 11:25:00 pm ---Tis is a constant battle between YT and Adblockers for now. The most horrific at the moment is the lag while typing comments. It's fun how YT's countermeasures affect commenting. Is it a byproduct of their countermeasures, or explicitely made to annoy users (assuming that not letting them comment would be what they would find most annoying? who knows what's in their twisted minds.) --- End quote --- I am convinced that youtube has an "adaptive annoyance" algorithm. That is they monitor keyboard and mousing to look for negative reactive events and specifically how fast they occur. The reason I say this is that I have noticed sometimes they ask me to rank "how has your add experience been lately" whilst at the same time filling the add stream with adds they know will annoy me, partly through how fast I am to skip but also they know everyone hates these particular adds. I am taking about interminably long investment, crypto or medical scam adds. You know the type, "try this one weird trick/secret and you will make millions" but they go on and on and never get to what they are selling. For curiosities sake I let one investment scam play and it was still going an hour later! still not finished, still no idea exactly what was going to be pitched at me. I think it was for a mining stock prospectus. Oh and additional add type is for these crappy games. I have an android phone. Google damn well knows I don't play any games and for that matter don't ever download paid apps from the google play store. Then after about a week to 10 days of annoying me youtube starts to heavily pitch premium at me. A few days later they give up and the add stream goes back to something I might normally go for like pick-up trucks or food items. This kind of hot-cold good-cop/bad-cop technique is what narcissists and psychopaths use to manipulate victims. |
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