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YT, Firefox, Adblockers and huge lag

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SiliconWizard:
I use YT not logged in on some devices, but only tablets, and so there may be differences other than not being logged in. I have indeed noticed less issues with adblockers in this case, but the downside is that when not logged in to YT, you can't change any settings, so you're stuck with the default ones. They still store a crapton of cookies on your device, but no account, no settings nonetheless. So there!

rdl:
Everybody is different. The only settings I use always on youtube are autoplay off and the volume control. Both of those will stay as set for the session, so it's a one time thing. I don't know how they do that, but it seems to work without cookies. Sometimes annotations get turned off if they get annoying enough. That setting always resets on  the next video.

I block a lot of things at youtube with NoScript and uBlock Origin. Mainly google, doubleclick, and gstatic. Also all 3rd party scripts and frames. I've been watching videos for about an hour now and Firefox claims there are no cookies set.

About the only bad thing I've noticed is that some user interface items are missing graphics and have no placeholder. It makes it easy to accidentally click something (like the "youtube home" button) because you can't see it.

eutectique:

--- Quote from: rdl on February 06, 2024, 09:39:58 am ---I've been watching videos for about an hour now and Firefox claims there are no cookies set.

--- End quote ---

I use Cookie AutoDelete. Each time YT loads, it pops up a message "Before you continue to YouTube. We use cookies and data to blah blah blah Reject Accept".

So, it does set cookies.

rdl:
I've never seen that message at youtube. When I go into Settings > Privacy and Security  > Cookies and Site Data, it says there are no cookies. Firefox is set to "Delete all cookies and site data" when it's shut down anyway, so no big deal.

SiliconWizard:
Of course it does store cookies. Actually, if it didn't, it would be one of the very rare websites currently that doesn't use cookies. Practically all web sites do, even when you don't see an obvious single reason to do so.

I just checked, and currently I have 22 cookies from youtube.com, last updates 2 min ago, whereas I didn't even watch a single YT video in a couple hours. All I did in the past few min that I think has triggered it is open a post in this forum that embedded a YT video, without even playing it. Nice. So, you have proof that barely displaying an embedded YT thumbnail will update cookies.

Unless you explicitely block cookies for YT, I don't see how you could have no cookies from it.

I also noticed a couple cookies from youtube-nocookies.com, yes, no kidding. Haven't checked what it could possibly be. :-DD

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