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AI use case: solving reCAPTCHA v2

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madires:
AI bots now beat 100% of those traffic-image CAPTCHAs (https://arstechnica.com/ai/2024/09/ai-defeats-traffic-image-captcha-in-another-triumph-of-machine-over-man/)

magic:
Hmm, does it mean there is a hope for CAPTCHAs becoming a thing of the past? :-DD

Bryn:
It's probably why hCaptcha is now a thing (well, for Discord anyay, from my own experience).

Technology is getting smarter, and so are potential spambots :(

SiliconWizard:
Yes but automatically defeating CAPTCHAs is worth it only when mass-doing it, and AI used for this consumes a lot of resources. So I'm not sure it makes any economic sense.

golden_labels:
How much I hate CAPTCHAs, if they are defeated, the alternative may be much worse. The three major competitors are surveillance-based endpoint security testing, relying on a third-party authenticator, or transforming the entire internet into a patchwork of strongholds.


--- Quote from: Bryn on September 28, 2024, 04:40:33 pm ---It's probably why hCaptcha is now a thing (well, for Discord anyay, from my own experience).
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hCaptcha isn’t “the next generation reCaptcha”. It’s the same idea from another vendor. Sharing exactly the same vulnerabilities.

Alphabet’s version is more popular and recognizable. They got in this particular kind of CAPTCHA earlier than Cloudflare. They also have a strong selling point to advertise to site operators compared to competition: it’s on average less disruptive, because risk determination mostly relies on private information collected about the user. Cloudflare’s service has no selling points that appeal to wider audience. They offer privacy by design,(1) they don’t rely on mass surveillance, they sell the service to any customer, and are completely open about what their CAPTCHA actually is. Both hCaptcha and reCaptcha are hiring you as an unpaid menial workforce, but while Alphabet doesn’t reveal it and you only make their products, Cloudflare is clear about the nature of the service and anybody’s product may be made.


--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on September 28, 2024, 07:00:00 pm ---Yes but automatically defeating CAPTCHAs is worth it only when mass-doing it, and AI used for this consumes a lot of resources. So I'm not sure it makes any economic sense.
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Does it consume more resources than a cheap human CAPTCHA solver you can buy in the right corners of the internet, 1000 pcs in a package?

(1) The basic mechanism is pre-minted tokens, which bear no connection between the creator and the spender, and — if site operator wishes so — can be verified without Cloudflare ever receiving information on who spent the tokens either. Only if the user can’t provide a token, an actual on-site CAPTCHA is used.

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