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Offline RobertoLG

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Re: BIG EEVblog Giveaway Coming Up
« Reply #100 on: February 06, 2016, 09:37:54 pm »
yeah, looks like Brazil isn't worthy either...  :clap: ...
 

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Re: BIG EEVblog Giveaway Coming Up
« Reply #101 on: February 06, 2016, 10:01:24 pm »
If it should go to the most worthy, or where it could potentially get the most use, then I might as well just donate it to the local hacker space?

Not such a bad idea, as much as any individual would like to be the winner of a hot scope, perhaps you could offer it to any not-for-profit group such as a hacker space or radio club etc. That way there is a potential that a number of people will get some use out of it and perhaps someone will make use of the advanced features instead of it just being used to troubleshoot an Arduino doh-dah. Get the hacker spaces to send in a postcard with a suggestion for an EEVblog video and you choose based on the idea you like most?
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Re: BIG EEVblog Giveaway Coming Up
« Reply #102 on: February 06, 2016, 10:26:32 pm »
Ok, I'm allowed to mention it now because it's kinda live:
The giveaway is part of Keysight's:
http://www.scopemonth.com/

But...

http://www.keysight.com/upload/cmc_upload/All/Rules-Scope-Month-Giveaway-Jan26-2016.pdf

This promotion is limited to specific countries and is only open to entrants aged 18 years or older at the time of submission who are legal residents of, and physically located within Austria, Canada (excluding the Province of Quebec), Chile, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, India, Ireland, Japan, Korea, New Zealand, Poland, South Africa, Switzerland, Taiwan, United Kingdom, United States (excluding Florida, New York, and Rhode Island), and Venezuela.

WTF?  :--
Like they managed to include every country around us...

Dave, you might consider just picking an existing list, like the uRurer+uCurrent buyer's list, and use that for the draw. That would probably increase future sales?
 

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Re: BIG EEVblog Giveaway Coming Up
« Reply #103 on: February 06, 2016, 10:53:36 pm »

Perhaps I should be a bit selfish in this and try and get some benefit too.
I don't need the publicity and credit, but some things that would be nice and are beneficial for example is more forum participation. And I've been meaning to set up an email newsletter, so maybe this is way to seed that (but could be spam entry abused obviously).

The only reason you have the scope to give away is because you have an audience that Keysight wants to be promoted among.  You don't have that audience based on luck, but on hard work.  You absolutely should get some benefit out of this - nothing wrong with that at all.  Nothing wrong with heavily advertising that one giveaway is for existing Patreon/forum supporters too, get some more people signing up so they can participate in the next one.  I say existing not because I am one, but solely because otherwise people would sign up for a month, donate a dollar, then quit.  But if that suits you, then nothing wrong with doing that too.
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Re: BIG EEVblog Giveaway Coming Up
« Reply #104 on: February 06, 2016, 11:00:13 pm »
If it should go to the most worthy, or where it could potentially get the most use, then I might as well just donate it to the local hacker space?

Not such a bad idea, as much as any individual would like to be the winner of a hot scope, perhaps you could offer it to any not-for-profit group such as a hacker space or radio club etc. That way there is a potential that a number of people will get some use out of it and perhaps someone will make use of the advanced features instead of it just being used to troubleshoot an Arduino doh-dah. Get the hacker spaces to send in a postcard with a suggestion for an EEVblog video and you choose based on the idea you like most?

As I stated in the other thread - I think this nice of a scope would be very likely to disappear quickly from a hacker space. But perhaps that is just a reflection of my limited hacker space experience.

Here's an idea:  Have one rule of the contest be that the winner agrees to donate their current scope to a hacker space or to a deserving scope-less forum member.  That's a win win - you ensure that the new owner has at least some prior experience with a scope and can appreciate what they are getting and you end up with a multiplier - 2 people get new scopes!
 

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Re: BIG EEVblog Giveaway Coming Up
« Reply #105 on: February 07, 2016, 12:56:40 am »
Here's an idea:  Have one rule of the contest be that the winner agrees to donate their current scope to a hacker space or to a deserving scope-less forum member.  That's a win win - you ensure that the new owner has at least some prior experience with a scope and can appreciate what they are getting and you end up with a multiplier - 2 people get new scopes!

I'd be OK with that - but I'm not sure anyone would really be excited about my old scope.  Everything works - but it's a bit battered and bruised ... and very likely to be out of spec.
 

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Re: BIG EEVblog Giveaway Coming Up
« Reply #106 on: February 07, 2016, 01:40:40 am »
In the state of New South Wales where Dave is I found this:
 http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/ftw/Businesses/Advertising_and_marketing/Special_offers_and_competitions.page

It might apply to Dave if he includes a requirement to purchase something from the EEVBlog. I'm no lawyer but maybe a Patreon "donation" could fall under such a definition. When the prize is an Oscilloscope worth many thousands of dollars it might matter more so than for a prize of much lesser value.

Legally (tax-wise etc), Patreon donations are just that, voluntary personal donations, with no expectation o any return.
 

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Re: BIG EEVblog Giveaway Coming Up
« Reply #107 on: February 07, 2016, 01:46:16 am »
Also I have been donating 2.00 USD a month for years on my Paypal account. Is that run by Patreon?

No, Patreon is separate system. Before Patreon, PayPal donations was the only option. I prefer people use Patreon, as it:
a) Is public, so people know how much I'm getting
b) It has easy mechanism in place to provide content or other stuff to supporters.

I still accept PayPal of course, but I'd prefer if people switched to Patreon. But no worries if you don't want to though.
 

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Re: BIG EEVblog Giveaway Coming Up
« Reply #108 on: February 07, 2016, 02:36:38 am »
I'm not terribly wise in the ways of legal issues, but it might be good business to have one of the drawings pulled from people that have purchased the rebadged meter if it is available in time for the giveaway.  Just a thought.
 

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Re: BIG EEVblog Giveaway Coming Up
« Reply #109 on: February 07, 2016, 02:55:21 am »
I'ld like to be on , what ever list it becomes ? ;)
Have to keep reading to see how it works out .
It's too late , already hooked on the site & youtube
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Re: BIG EEVblog Giveaway Coming Up
« Reply #110 on: February 07, 2016, 03:51:28 am »
I'm not terribly wise in the ways of legal issues, but it might be good business to have one of the drawings pulled from people that have purchased the rebadged meter if it is available in time for the giveaway.  Just a thought.

I think that would be covered by the Supporters group - and Dave has already earmarked one of the scopes for there.
 

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Re: BIG EEVblog Giveaway Coming Up
« Reply #111 on: February 07, 2016, 06:21:58 am »
Dave, any ideas on when this contest will actually be started and awarded ?
Is it a case of waiting till Keysight ship them to you, or do you have a date in mind ?

Just wondering how drawn(teehee) out the process will be.
 

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Re: BIG EEVblog Giveaway Coming Up
« Reply #112 on: February 07, 2016, 06:24:42 am »
Dave, any ideas on when this contest will actually be started and awarded ?
Is it a case of waiting till Keysight ship them to you, or do you have a date in mind ?
Just wondering how drawn(teehee) out the process will be.

Start of March
 

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Re: BIG EEVblog Giveaway Coming Up
« Reply #113 on: February 07, 2016, 07:03:45 pm »
Design a circuit, that does...
Maybe with different categories. Pure analog, mcu (no arduino libs) mixed signal and arduino.
I like this suggestion. One scope for each category, the third one automatically rules you out of the draw. ;D
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Re: BIG EEVblog Giveaway Coming Up
« Reply #114 on: February 07, 2016, 07:05:30 pm »
Design a circuit, that does...
Maybe with different categories. Pure analog, mcu (no arduino libs) mixed signal and arduino.
I like this suggestion. One scope for each category, the third one automatically rules you out of the draw. ;D

But not all uses for a high end scope involve circuit design...

And what's to prevent plagiarism - which is trivially easy these days?

Unfortunately, I think  trying to find a way for the winners to "prove" they deserve or need one of these scopes will only lead to either overly complex rules - taking up lots of Dave's time - or a process that is easily gamed.
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Re: BIG EEVblog Giveaway Coming Up
« Reply #115 on: February 08, 2016, 08:34:53 pm »
Post in thread, say "I want" and then describe the first project it would get used on.
Most interesting project (where Dave judges interesting and includes the "has a hope in hell of being doable" metric) wins.

Stay tuned, we may or may not :) have something like that coming!
 

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Re: BIG EEVblog Giveaway Coming Up
« Reply #116 on: February 08, 2016, 08:44:36 pm »
If only more people knew what an oscilloscope was you could probably make more than $15K from views by saying how expensive it is and then smashing it, or lighting it on fire, or blending it in a chipper shredder or something in a youtube video like people do when new Apple stuff comes out.
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Re: BIG EEVblog Giveaway Coming Up
« Reply #117 on: February 08, 2016, 08:52:57 pm »
Quick comment on country/state based eligibility.  We've included as many regions as we legally could; we aren't intentionally ruling people out.  Many regions have strict rules around total prize value, giveaway mechanics, location of giveaway host etc.
 

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Re: BIG EEVblog Giveaway Coming Up
« Reply #118 on: February 08, 2016, 09:27:49 pm »
Quick comment on country/state based eligibility.  We've included as many regions as we legally could; we aren't intentionally ruling people out.  Many regions have strict rules around total prize value, giveaway mechanics, location of giveaway host etc.
I'm sure that there are good reasons to leave some countries/regions out, but that doesn't make me feel left out any less  :(
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Re: BIG EEVblog Giveaway Coming Up
« Reply #119 on: February 08, 2016, 09:33:51 pm »
I just looked at the official rules:

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In accordance with local laws, if the selected entrant is a Canadian or South African resident,  that entrant will  be  required  to  answer  a  mathematical  skill testing  question,  without assistance  of  any  kind  (whether  mechanical  or  otherwise),  within  the  time  frame  provided  above.

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Re: BIG EEVblog Giveaway Coming Up
« Reply #120 on: February 08, 2016, 09:50:05 pm »
I just looked at the official rules:

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In accordance with local laws, if the selected entrant is a Canadian or South African resident,  that entrant will  be  required  to  answer  a  mathematical  skill testing  question,  without assistance  of  any  kind  (whether  mechanical  or  otherwise),  within  the  time  frame  provided  above.

 :wtf:

LOL, that just means that by local law you can't just give away anything without a contest. Of course the question can be what the answer is to 1+1  ;D
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Re: BIG EEVblog Giveaway Coming Up
« Reply #121 on: February 08, 2016, 09:54:22 pm »
Indeed. To win a 3000X scope, it might be "what's the next number in the sequence 2, 3, 5, 7, 11, ???"

To win a 90000 series, it'll be more along the lines of "Prove P = NP or otherwise, you have six hours"  :-DD

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Re: BIG EEVblog Giveaway Coming Up
« Reply #122 on: February 08, 2016, 10:01:46 pm »
Nice find!  That's by far my favorite T&C.  Basically, computers can't win.
 

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Re: BIG EEVblog Giveaway Coming Up
« Reply #123 on: February 08, 2016, 10:07:48 pm »
Indeed. To win a 3000X scope, it might be "what's the next number in the sequence 2, 3, 5, 7, 11, ???"

To win a 90000 series, it'll be more along the lines of "Prove P = NP or otherwise, you have six hours"  :-DD

If P = NP no need for a scope, your problem is already solved :D
 

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Re: BIG EEVblog Giveaway Coming Up
« Reply #124 on: February 08, 2016, 10:12:17 pm »
@ Keysight_DanielBogdanoff

Would you be able to find out why some countries, in my case particularly Australia are not on the list?
I guess it's a case by case basis.
 


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