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How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?

As before, active forum members only (minimum post count)
195 (58.9%)
As before, active forum members only (NO minimum post count)
58 (17.5%)
Every viewer is equal. Include Youtube commenters, blog commenters, & all forum members
49 (14.8%)
It should be a contest of skill (describe below)
11 (3.3%)
Something else (describe below)
18 (5.4%)

Total Members Voted: 327

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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #200 on: March 14, 2016, 01:54:20 pm »
Not that my opinion matters, but...wouldn't this basically destroy us NOOBs chances of ever winning a random drawing?  I mean, you have many "super" contributors on here who's entry numbers would swamp mine, thus making the odds unrealistically low for winning.

Not if it's scaled correctly. e.g. 100 posts gets you an extra entry. 1000 posts gets you two extra entries.

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Sign up 24 hrs before announcement, post ONCE to the contest thread, 1 entry, 1 chance. Then when the winning name is drawn it will be fair AND random. Best of luck to all of us that have entered.

So you are in favour of a person joining the forum just to enter the contest, winning it, and then never posting again?
 

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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #201 on: March 14, 2016, 01:57:15 pm »
They would post again to complain about the tax, surely....
 

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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #202 on: March 14, 2016, 02:01:44 pm »
Not that my opinion matters, but...wouldn't this basically destroy us NOOBs chances of ever winning a random drawing?  I mean, you have many "super" contributors on here who's entry numbers would swamp mine, thus making the odds unrealistically low for winning.

Not if it's scaled correctly. e.g. 100 posts gets you an extra entry. 1000 posts gets you two extra entries.

Even though it would mean fewer entries for me in relation to others, I think a logarithmic scale such as this would be fair.
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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #203 on: March 14, 2016, 02:06:46 pm »
They would post again to complain about the tax, surely....

 :-DD :-DD Very perceptive!

Not if it's scaled correctly. e.g. 100 posts gets you an extra entry. 1000 posts gets you two extra entries.

Even though it would mean fewer entries for me in relation to others, I think a logarithmic scale such as this would be fair.

Yes, log scale sounds fair - I was worried it would be linear eg 1000 posts = 10 votes, etc.  :palm:
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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #204 on: March 14, 2016, 05:04:33 pm »
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Sign up 24 hrs before announcement, post ONCE to the contest thread, 1 entry, 1 chance. Then when the winning name is drawn it will be fair AND random. Best of luck to all of us that have entered.

So you are in favour of a person joining the forum just to enter the contest, winning it, and then never posting again?

I don't understand how that means that. My interpretation of the suggestion would mean that to be eligible, you'd have to join the forum before having any way to know there was a contest coming up (which seems fair to me).

Yes, log scale sounds fair - I was worried it would be linear eg 1000 posts = 10 votes, etc.  :palm:

That's linear? 10 posts (entry threshold) = 1 entry, 100 posts = 10 entries, 1000 posts = 100 entries would be linear.

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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #205 on: March 14, 2016, 05:19:06 pm »
Not if it's scaled correctly. e.g. 100 posts gets you an extra entry. 1000 posts gets you two extra entries.
I think a logarithmic scale such as this would be fair.

Sounds good to me, too.
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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #206 on: March 14, 2016, 05:29:17 pm »
That's linear? 10 posts (entry threshold) = 1 entry, 100 posts = 10 entries, 1000 posts = 100 entries would be linear.

Doh!  :-//

Poor typing skills (or too rushed, or both) - missed the extra zero.

As you rightly pointed out, it should have been 100 entries (should also have said 'entries' rather than 'votes'  |O)

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Thanks for correcting that PointyOintment.
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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #207 on: March 15, 2016, 02:08:00 am »
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Sign up 24 hrs before announcement, post ONCE to the contest thread, 1 entry, 1 chance. Then when the winning name is drawn it will be fair AND random. Best of luck to all of us that have entered.

So you are in favour of a person joining the forum just to enter the contest, winning it, and then never posting again?
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Not at all. Pointy read it right. Unless they were psychic, anyone joining a day before you even make an announcement that there is going to be a contest, would indicate (to me anyway) that they were interested in the forum to begin with. The "sorry for ya" part was for those that would join just to win, or joined and tried to enter after the contest had started. That's all I meant.

Scaled properly it could work I guess, but there are loads of us who aren't lurkers, but still learners, and simply don't have much to say. I suppose if I had 4100 posts instead of 41 my feelings might be different  :-DD.   Like I said earlier, your house, your rules. Was just throwing my .02 in in response to the thread title, that's all.  Good luck everyone who got in!!
 

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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #208 on: March 15, 2016, 03:46:30 am »
The BBS system also tracks total the spend online. So lurkers could gain credits that way.
 

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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #209 on: March 15, 2016, 02:39:37 pm »
Damage report on the forum as usual -> Forum Stats.

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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #210 on: March 16, 2016, 03:15:41 pm »
I would imagine flood of freebies if someone post message on the slickdeals.net when next giveaway will have place :)
 

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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #211 on: March 16, 2016, 04:54:42 pm »
I now have a spreadsheet of the names, countries, and number of posts after I culled those under 10 posts and a few from troublesome Germany.
638 people entered.
What I will do now is improve the odds by duplicating entries for those in countries that Keysight wouldn't allow. And also a scaled number of post things. There are 61 entries with over 1000 posts.
Then I'll just a do a video picking a random number, and the spreadsheet cell that matches will be the winner, subject to profile checking.
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Here is a histogram of post ranges for all entries.



Here is another with a linear axis with a post spread of 50. You can really see the number of entries under 50 posts dominates.



It could be argued that those under 50 should be knocked out?
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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #212 on: March 16, 2016, 05:23:08 pm »
The majority did vote for

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As before, active forum members only (minimum post count)

In the poll, I'd say less than 50 posts is not active.
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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #213 on: March 16, 2016, 05:23:41 pm »
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It could be argued that those under 50 should be knocked out?

Yes - as an over 50 person.  Actually I am 67 yo,   :-+
This would be nice to seniors.  ha ha ha
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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #214 on: March 16, 2016, 05:42:41 pm »
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It could be argued that those under 50 should be knocked out?

Yes - as an over 50 person.  Actually I am 67 yo,   :-+
This would be nice to seniors.  ha ha ha

But then you'd be on here complaining about doing your back in lifting it (and the taxes).
 

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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #215 on: March 16, 2016, 05:51:30 pm »
I now have a spreadsheet of the names, countries, and number of posts after I culled those under 10 posts and a few from troublesome Germany.
638 people entered.


It could be argued that those under 50 should be knocked out?
Would it not be appropriate to consider forum joining date?

Say a member joined in Jan and had 40 odd posts, hey that's ~1/day.
I'd say that was typical of us all when we first joined.
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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #216 on: March 16, 2016, 05:56:43 pm »
Would it not be appropriate to consider forum joining date?
Say a member joined in Jan and had 40 odd posts, hey that's ~1/day.
I'd say that was typical of us all when we first joined.

I don't have that data readily available to cull the list before the draw.
I'd have to do that check post-draw.
 

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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #217 on: March 16, 2016, 07:05:58 pm »
It's in the user profile, summary section.

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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #218 on: March 16, 2016, 07:55:32 pm »
It's in the user profile, summary section.

I'm not manually going through all those profiles to get people's join date.
 

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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #219 on: March 16, 2016, 08:02:54 pm »
I was thinking about an script or similar.
Maybe a database genious from the forum can do it with some query and export to something usefull for you.

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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #220 on: March 17, 2016, 12:26:05 am »
As another who joined Jan/Feb but a week or two before the this giveaway was announced I'd be bit aggrieved to be left out.  And don't lurkers actually contribute to the advertising value of the forum?
 

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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #221 on: March 17, 2016, 04:03:26 am »
Would it not be appropriate to consider forum joining date?

I don't have that data readily available to cull the list before the draw.
I'd have to do that check post-draw.

The winner is "subject to profile checking", anyway.
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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #222 on: March 17, 2016, 07:35:54 am »
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I was thinking about an script or similar.
Maybe a database genious from the forum can do it with some query and export to something usefull for you.

Easy peasy:

Code: [Select]
$sql = "SELECT member_name FROM smf_members ORDER BY rand() LIMIT 1";
$result = $conn->query($sql);
$row = $result->fetch_assoc();

$winner = "ade"; // most important part!!!!!!!!!!!
echo "The winner is: " . $winner;

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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #223 on: March 17, 2016, 07:44:20 am »
Easy peasy:

Code: [Select]
$sql = "SELECT member_name FROM smf_members ORDER BY rand() LIMIT 1";
$result = $conn->query($sql);
$row = $result->fetch_assoc();

$winner = "rx8pilot"; // most important part!!!!!!!!!!!
echo "The winner is: " . $winner;

;D

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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #224 on: March 17, 2016, 08:39:27 am »
In the poll, I'd say less than 50 posts is not active.

That gets back to how you define active.

This will be my 50th post, but my join date is August 2014 and I read this forum most days.

Just because I don't post much doesn't mean I'm not using the forum.

 


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