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How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?

As before, active forum members only (minimum post count)
195 (58.9%)
As before, active forum members only (NO minimum post count)
58 (17.5%)
Every viewer is equal. Include Youtube commenters, blog commenters, & all forum members
49 (14.8%)
It should be a contest of skill (describe below)
11 (3.3%)
Something else (describe below)
18 (5.4%)

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Offline Brumby

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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #275 on: April 12, 2016, 12:23:42 am »
Absolutely!

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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #276 on: April 12, 2016, 12:37:42 am »
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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #277 on: April 12, 2016, 03:44:03 am »

Have I missed something?

Why should be the live video draw interesting for someone in Germany?              :-//
Germany is the one and only country worldwide that had been excluded!     :--
As said: Obviously are some countries more equal than others. Lesson learned...  :o

Therefore applies (at least) for me:

"Was auch passiert:
Nie dürft ihr so tief sinken,
von dem Kakao,
durch den man euch zieht,
auch noch zu trinken..."

(Erich Kästner)

"Whatever happens:
Never allow yourself to sink so low,
from the cocoa,
you had been pulled,
even to drink."

(Erich Kaestner)

 

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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #278 on: April 12, 2016, 06:56:02 am »
Quote from: SeanB on Yesterday at 20:43:51
Saturday 16 April at 9AM Sydney time.

Will be 1AM for me, will have to either stay up or set a loud alarm.


01:00 here too. It's time to party.

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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #279 on: April 12, 2016, 08:46:24 am »
Thanks all, clear now. Let's see if I am not too old to stay up to 1am  :)

Have I missed something?
Why should be the live video draw interesting for someone in Germany?              :-//
Germany is the one and only country worldwide that had been excluded!     :--
You are probably mixing up the official Keysight giveaway where indeed also the Netherlands was excluded (rediculous but explained in other topics) and the Dave Keysight container find forum giveaway, which this is all about. Now who wants a brand new Keysight scope when he can get a real Dave's eevblog scope, hopefull with some nice Eevblog sticker on it :-+
 
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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #280 on: April 12, 2016, 10:02:42 am »
You are probably mixing up the official Keysight giveaway where indeed also the Netherlands was excluded (rediculous but explained in other topics) and the Dave Keysight container find forum giveaway, which this is all about.

I now have a spreadsheet of the names, countries, and number of posts after I culled those under 10 posts and a few from troublesome Germany.
Keyboard error: Press F1 to continue.
 

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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #281 on: April 12, 2016, 02:05:42 pm »
This is really hard to translate...

cocoa = hot chocolate

To "pull someone through hot chocolate" = making fun of someone.

So, if someone makes fun of you "pulling you through hot chocolate", whatever happens, never get so low to drink of it as well.

Greetings from the Black Forest, Germany
 
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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #282 on: April 12, 2016, 02:07:32 pm »
"Durch den Kakao gezogen" => "pulled through hot chocolate" means "to be humiliated".
The whole meaning is:
You should never allow, to be a participiant of your own humiliation.

Probably someone can make a much better translation.
 
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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #283 on: April 12, 2016, 02:10:49 pm »
This is really hard to translate...

cocoa = hot chocolate

To "pull someone through hot chocolate" = making fun of someone.

So, if someone makes fun of you "pulling you through hot chocolate", whatever happens, never get so low to drink of it as well.

OK.  Now it makes sense - but that not an expression I've ever heard before...

... but I'll never forget it now!
 

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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #284 on: April 12, 2016, 03:22:44 pm »
And give up on perfectly good German chocolate? It's just like "when life gives you lemons", except with chocolate  :D
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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #285 on: April 12, 2016, 05:35:01 pm »
Germany excluded because Dave does not like, really does not like, absolutely does not like, some might even say detests, and possibly with good reason, German Customs, who like the "Papieren Bitte!" to be Teutonically correct, with every single little mark in the correct space, all the additional documentation they can pull out of the crypt of the filing and customs system, the category to be absolutely and utterly correct on each and every item, including the paper and ink used on the documentation, the cover page, the alignment of said cover page to be within 1mm of the KorreKt location on the parcel, which has to be an approved box, made with the correct paper pulp, and with the correct packaging inserts and sealed with the correct tape, applied the correct way, and then they will charge duty and such on it, and send it back uncollected.

Might just be that.....
 

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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #286 on: April 12, 2016, 11:00:45 pm »
While I don't recall Dave being so specific, that's definitely the vibe.
 

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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #287 on: April 12, 2016, 11:59:45 pm »
Germany excluded because Dave does not like, really does not like, absolutely does not like, some might even say detests, and possibly with good reason, German Customs, who like the "Papieren Bitte!" to be Teutonically correct, with every single little mark in the correct space, all the additional documentation they can pull out of the crypt of the filing and customs system, the category to be absolutely and utterly correct on each and every item, including the paper and ink used on the documentation, the cover page, the alignment of said cover page to be within 1mm of the KorreKt location on the parcel, which has to be an approved box, made with the correct paper pulp, and with the correct packaging inserts and sealed with the correct tape, applied the correct way, and then they will charge duty and such on it, and send it back uncollected.

Might just be that.....

I don't understand - could you be a bit more specific please?  :-DD :-DD
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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #288 on: April 13, 2016, 06:23:43 am »
I'm a new forum member and I didn't even realize you gave items away until I just saw your recent video announcement.  I think it's great you're doing this, but given the cost and hassles of shipping a piece of equipment to another country I would make things easy for yourself and donate it to a local school in your town.  Maybe set an expectation that their students will use it on some project and post their results on the forum. 

I don't want to discourage the giveaways, it makes participating in this forum even more fun. Even one of your customized shirts would be great to receive in the mail and would be more reasonable for you to do.
 

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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #289 on: April 13, 2016, 08:40:35 am »
That is the same discussion as in the Keysigh give away. School need simple cheap scopes , like the Rigol or 100MHz ones. Not a GHz scope,it is overkill.
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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #290 on: April 13, 2016, 11:25:43 am »
Absolutely correct.

... and why such a high-end scope?  Because Keysight MAKE them.
 

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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #291 on: April 13, 2016, 03:46:00 pm »
We had no idea that it would be an issue to give away a higher BW scope.  Next scope month we'll make sure to use lower list price scopes.
 

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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #292 on: April 13, 2016, 04:27:13 pm »
If the manufacturer is giving away their equipment, especially high end equipment, that's great.  They have the resources to handle all the shipping logistics. 

My previous comment was to save Dave the cost of shipping.  And according to Dave it is a well-used scope, not a brand new one.  So may not be overkill for a local school.  And don't underestimate today's students ... they are more industrious than you might think!
 

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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #293 on: April 13, 2016, 05:00:20 pm »
We had no idea that it would be an issue to give away a higher BW scope.  Next scope month we'll make sure to use lower list price scopes.

For small/medium businesses  - the high-end prizes are the only draw. If the contest only included entry-level scopes, it will primarily be interesting to hobbyists. I wold hope that instead of lowering the bar, the effort would be spent engaging the people that have a commercial requirement and financial capability for the bigger prizes.
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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #294 on: April 13, 2016, 08:25:07 pm »
We had no idea that it would be an issue to give away a higher BW scope.  Next scope month we'll make sure to use lower list price scopes.

For small/medium businesses  - the high-end prizes are the only draw. If the contest only included entry-level scopes, it will primarily be interesting to hobbyists. I wold hope that instead of lowering the bar, the effort would be spent engaging the people that have a commercial requirement and financial capability for the bigger prizes.

That was pretty much the way my opinion has been forming. I have this vision of the prize either being locked away never to be touched except in very rare circumstances or sitting on a bench with an Arduino: in either case it would be a trophy piece where a 1/50th value item would work perfectly well. And as for those $5.8k a piece 6 gig diff probes? I really want to cry!

Having said that Scopemonth must be one of the most, if not -the- most talked about EE promotion there's ever been, and part of that is the sheer value of prizes. Certainly on my various telecons and meetings when I've mentioned it on AOB, it's generally led to meeting overrun while attendees get their mobes out and look it up. In that respect, brand and equipment awareness must be a positive. How that is actually measured in terms of conversion rate or other KPIs I don't know, marketing's not my line of expertise!



 

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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #295 on: April 13, 2016, 08:40:34 pm »
That is the same discussion as in the Keysigh give away. School need simple cheap scopes , like the Rigol or 100MHz ones. Not a GHz scope,it is overkill.
You don't give a ferrari to driver schools now do you  :)

now a days with all these GHz stuff we exposed to a even a 500Mhz scope looks feels like DC! I do agree send those freshmen Rigol 1052e.

This give away feels more more like Lord of The Rings, who is be next in line to be corrupted by its power.. so many Smeagols.  :-DD       
 

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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #296 on: April 13, 2016, 10:20:37 pm »
We had no idea that it would be an issue to give away a higher BW scope.  Next scope month we'll make sure to use lower list price scopes.

For small/medium businesses  - the high-end prizes are the only draw. If the contest only included entry-level scopes, it will primarily be interesting to hobbyists. I wold hope that instead of lowering the bar, the effort would be spent engaging the people that have a commercial requirement and financial capability for the bigger prizes.

We won't do exclusively low cost scopes, but we haven't worked out details for next year yet.
 

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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #297 on: April 14, 2016, 12:29:28 am »
It seems to me that the methodology that Keysight settled on was a good balance. The buzz was over the fact that high-end equipment was being given away. This works great for publicity and for winners in countries where winning is free. However, for those of us in countries where free is taxed :o, the option to downgrade is a welcome alternative.
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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #298 on: April 14, 2016, 03:03:26 am »
We had no idea that it would be an issue to give away a higher BW scope.  Next scope month we'll make sure to use lower list price scopes.

I don't see the problem. If I won a 1Ghz scope and was unable to accept it because of tax (or guilt, fear, complexity), can I not ask Keysight for a cheaper model instead? Maybe win the right to select from a list, like I did with my "buy 2 meters get a third free", i picked from a list up to a certain value, didn't even need to be the same type of meter.

I applaud Keysight, except for excluding Australia from Scope month.
 

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Re: How Should The EEVblog Giveaway be Run?
« Reply #299 on: April 14, 2016, 03:54:02 am »
I applaud Keysight, except for excluding Australia from Scope month.

I would have said: I applaud Keysight, except for not including Australia from Scope month.

It wasn't as if they made the decision to toss out Aussies.
 


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