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Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« on: January 14, 2019, 10:58:14 pm »
 
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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2019, 11:39:34 pm »
Thanks for this giveaway. But I'm wondering why this year you still can select any country when it's only a limited number of countries for which giveaway actually works (hidden it terms and conditions)?
 
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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2019, 11:41:55 pm »
Thanks for this giveaway. But I'm wondering why this year you still can select any country when it's only a limited number of countries for which giveaway actually works (hidden it terms and conditions)?

I'm wondering why you are complaining.
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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2019, 11:50:21 pm »
Thanks for this giveaway. But I'm wondering why this year you still can select any country when it's only a limited number of countries for which giveaway actually works (hidden it terms and conditions)?

I'm wondering why you are complaining.
Maybe because it does not work for me. And entering is just a waste of time even though it says I'm in.
 

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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2019, 11:57:26 pm »
Thanks for this giveaway. But I'm wondering why this year you still can select any country when it's only a limited number of countries for which giveaway actually works (hidden it terms and conditions)?

I'm wondering why you are complaining.
Maybe because it does not work for me. And entering is just a waste of time even though it says I'm in.


Be glad you dont' live in UK or USA.
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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2019, 11:59:17 pm »
Be glad you dont' live in UK or USA.
Living in UK or US is way better regardless of what you meant by that.
 

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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2019, 12:07:37 am »
I would love to live in the USA, so much sources of cheap test equipment and electronics in general, in my country you cant get any second hand test equipment because it just isnt developed enough
 

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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2019, 12:11:54 am »
@wraper

It's honestly for marketing purposes. We have a few different Wave pages based on country/region, so it made since to use a full list instead of just a giveaway-eligible list of countries.
 

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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2019, 12:13:21 am »
Be glad you dont' live in UK or USA.
Living in UK or US is way better regardless of what you meant by that.

Guess why the previous Grand prize winner sold his msox6004a to me for peanuts? He couldn't afford the tax!

BTW, China was on the list the last year, but not this year. But this year the permanent resident requirement was changed to legal residents, so being legal resident alien in US, I'm in.

Hope I can grab that ADS license.
 

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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2019, 12:14:33 am »
Weird conditions...

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In accordance with local laws, if the selected entrant is a Canadian or South African resident, that entrant will be required to answer a mathematical skill-testing question, without assistance of any kind (whether mechanical or otherwise), within the time frame provided above
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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2019, 12:16:50 am »
Be glad you dont' live in UK or USA.
Living in UK or US is way better regardless of what you meant by that.

Guess why the previous Grand prize winner sold his msox6004a to me for peanuts? He couldn't afford the tax!

BTW, China was on the list the last year, but not this year. But this year the permanent resident requirement was changed to legal residents, so being legal resident alien in US, I'm in.

Hope I can grab that ADS license.

Karma, or what ever your equivalent life force will work to ensure that you dont' win.
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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2019, 12:18:33 am »
Weird conditions...

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In accordance with local laws, if the selected entrant is a Canadian or South African resident, that entrant will be required to answer a mathematical skill-testing question, without assistance of any kind (whether mechanical or otherwise), within the time frame provided above
Not really. Adding an element of skill is often done when the legal requirements for pure chance based draws are prohibitive. By adding skill into the equation often in the form of a trivial task or question, the stringent requirements are avoided.
 

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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2019, 12:19:30 am »
Be glad you dont' live in UK or USA.
Living in UK or US is way better regardless of what you meant by that.

Guess why the previous Grand prize winner sold his msox6004a to me for peanuts? He couldn't afford the tax!

BTW, China was on the list the last year, but not this year. But this year the permanent resident requirement was changed to legal residents, so being legal resident alien in US, I'm in.

Hope I can grab that ADS license.

Karma, or what ever your equivalent life force will work to ensure that you dont' win.

The god of keysight will think differently. He will think if I give this kid an ADS license, he will spend 50k on SAs and VNAs.
 

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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2019, 12:19:50 am »
I meant it sounds like the questions are only for people in Canada and South Africa. Then again, maybe I'm misreading this.
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« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2019, 12:21:35 am »
I meant it sounds like the questions are only for people in Canada and South Africa. Then again, maybe I'm misreading this.

It sounds legit not to have non qualified persons to mess with RF and probe with mains.
 

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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2019, 12:23:42 am »
So is there a common agreement (which I'm not aware of) that people from Canada and South Africa are potentially less qualified to win Keysight equipment?
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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2019, 12:23:58 am »
country list is really laughable, many 1st world countries are not included, I dont understand why can you do the giveaway in Venezuela but not in Croatia  :-//
 

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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2019, 12:24:24 am »
Be glad you dont' live in UK or USA.
Living in UK or US is way better regardless of what you meant by that.

Guess why the previous Grand prize winner sold his msox6004a to me for peanuts? He couldn't afford the tax!

BTW, China was on the list the last year, but not this year. But this year the permanent resident requirement was changed to legal residents, so being legal resident alien in US, I'm in.

Hope I can grab that ADS license.
I don't think that I would get it here tax free. In any case I'm able to afford taxes.
 

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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2019, 12:26:38 am »
So is there a common agreement (which I'm not aware of) that people from Canada and South Africa are potentially less qualified to win Keysight equipment?

Nothing implied. Just there laws are made that way

Stupid laws are everywhere. Japan requires you to use non certified electronic modules only in an emi shielded room, as I found this out from a TI dev board legal notice.

So if you tinker in your own house, you will break the law in Japan, and apparently no one gives it a shot.
 

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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2019, 12:29:10 am »
Its a very short list of countrys, and i'm only on the B list, which has a much smaller list of lower value prizes..  It is what it is.
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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2019, 12:32:44 am »
I think the quiz/test thing is to prevent bots from winning or something like that, but I let the lawyers figure out all that stuff! It has to do with the local laws and isn't us making those rules.
 

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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2019, 12:34:26 am »
Also, China is included but is running everything through WeChat
 
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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2019, 12:35:05 am »
I meant it sounds like the questions are only for people in Canada and South Africa. Then again, maybe I'm misreading this.
It is. They've got laws against contest which are pure chance. The question is a loophole since it adds a tiny element of skill. Look at http://www.mardenkane.com/articles/implications-running-sweepstakes-contest-quebec.html

country list is really laughable, many 1st world countries are not included, I dont understand why can you do the giveaway in Venezuela but not in Croatia  :-//
Every country has a huge pile of laws and regulations for running sweepstakes. Some require an element of "skill" such as the question. Some require you to put a certain amount of money into escrow. Some forbid you from running a contest unless you have a local business presence. Go look at http://www.mardenkane.com/articles/international-sweepstakes-contest-laws-may-cause-problems.html for some of the headaches you'll have if you wanted to run your own contest.

It isn't just a case of somebody sitting down and randomly picking countries out of a hat. They'll weigh up how big their market is in that country and how onerous the requirements are for running a contest there.
 
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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2019, 12:35:28 am »
In any case I'm able to afford taxes.
I'd be glad to pay the tax for a price like a 1Ghz scope but to pay the tax for e.g. a $1000 (or whatever) BenchVue license that I can't really use (and most probably can't really sell either) would be more of a loss than a win.
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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2019, 12:39:01 am »
I meant it sounds like the questions are only for people in Canada and South Africa. Then again, maybe I'm misreading this.
Yes, because those places probably place more stringent demands on games of pure chance. Hence adding the element of skill in those places. You'd be surprised how complicated organising a raffle can be in just one country. Games of pure chance are in some places seen as a form of gambling, which is often very heavily regulated.

Note that these don't tend to be questions of much actual skill. Just answering what 5+3 is means having an element of skill from the legal perspective, which circumvents much more stringent conditions on pure raffles.
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