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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2019, 11:39:18 am »
Also, China is included but is running everything through WeChat

Interesting. Altium is doing the same thing. All their free training and other licensee's welfare are delivered and coordinated over WeChat instead of their official website.
 

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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2019, 11:40:16 am »
In any case I'm able to afford taxes.
I'd be glad to pay the tax for a price like a 1Ghz scope but to pay the tax for e.g. a $1000 (or whatever) BenchVue license that I can't really use (and most probably can't really sell either) would be more of a loss than a win.
I guess you could ask them to not include licence. IIRC they changed prizes to something cheaper to those who could not afford taxes.
 

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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2019, 11:43:07 am »
Also, China is included but is running everything through WeChat

Interesting. Altium is doing the same thing. All their free training and other licensee's welfare are delivered and coordinated over WeChat instead of their official website.
We do a lot of things through China-specific websites as well - tired of censorship BS.

Every year there are gobs of complaints about rules and countries. :popcorn:
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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2019, 11:43:39 am »
As a side note, I find it highly problematic that these giveaways/sweepstakes ask you for your company. Now letting aside that my company tends to change its names every few years, I don't want to win a price for my company for sure. They already devour my soul so why would I win prices for them? Yet stating my company somehow sounds like it's not my price but theirs and not stating it feels like I'm unemployed.
I mean, I can understand the question from a "data kraken" point of view - i just don't like it.
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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2019, 11:51:37 am »
As a side note, I find it highly problematic that these giveaways/sweepstakes ask you for your company. Now letting aside that my company tends to change its names every few years, I don't want to win a price for my company for sure. They already devour my soul so why would I win prices for them? Yet stating my company somehow sounds like it's not my price but theirs and not stating it feels like I'm unemployed.
I mean, I can understand the question from a "data kraken" point of view - i just don't like it.

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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #30 on: January 15, 2019, 12:08:57 pm »
I meant it sounds like the questions are only for people in Canada and South Africa. Then again, maybe I'm misreading this.
Yes, because those places probably place more stringent demands on games of chance. Hence adding the element of skill in those places. You'd be surprised how complicated organising a raffle can bein just one country.

This pretty much sums it up ^ ^ ^.

This whole discussion has been hammered out many, many times before - and there is one thing that you need to understand - it is not Keysight that is responsible for such conditions ... it is the legal requirements of the various jurisdictions in which they want to conduct this promotion - that they can comply with and afford.

In some jurisdictions, a financial surety is required to be lodged that will ensure any prizewinners will receive their due.  That could be the total value of the promotion.  With $382K of prizes on offer, that means Keysight may have to stump up over $1M for every 3 jurisdictions that have this requirement.

In others, games of chance are only permitted with a gambling licence - the sort of thing you would need for a casino.  Sometimes there are loopholes - such as having a "Guessing competition" (technically a game of skill) and in the case of multiple correct entries, a random draw is permitted to select the winner.  Not surprisingly, this game of skill is "Fill in the missing letters:  G _ E _ S I N _   C _ M P _ _ I T _ _ N ".


Just remember - Keysight will WANT to get as many people across the world engaged in this promotion as possible.  They WANT people to imagine having this gear in their hands.  The only reason that everybody in the world can't enter is because of the practicalities of legal compliance.

If you're still not convinced, then think about this part of the eligibility criteria: " United States (excluding Florida, New York, and Rhode Island) ".  Why would you single out those 3 states without good reason?


Certainly make overtures to Keysight to consider including your country in the future - but don't think for a second that the reason you are excluded is for any vendetta, conspiracy or prejudice.  It's going to be your laws.
 
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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #31 on: January 15, 2019, 12:11:02 pm »
As a side note, I find it highly problematic that these giveaways/sweepstakes ask you for your company. Now letting aside that my company tends to change its names every few years, I don't want to win a price for my company for sure. They already devour my soul so why would I win prices for them? Yet stating my company somehow sounds like it's not my price but theirs and not stating it feels like I'm unemployed.
I mean, I can understand the question from a "data kraken" point of view - i just don't like it.

Company = EEVBLOG. :-)

That's an interesting idea.

Normally I simply put "Independent Designer".
 

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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #32 on: January 15, 2019, 12:13:57 pm »
As a side note, I find it highly problematic that these giveaways/sweepstakes ask you for your company. Now letting aside that my company tends to change its names every few years, I don't want to win a price for my company for sure. They already devour my soul so why would I win prices for them? Yet stating my company somehow sounds like it's not my price but theirs and not stating it feels like I'm unemployed.
I mean, I can understand the question from a "data kraken" point of view - i just don't like it.

Company = EEVBLOG. :-)

That's an interesting idea.

Normally I simply put "Independent Designer".


Mmm.. maybe you would then have to pay a dave tax.
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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #33 on: January 15, 2019, 12:15:32 pm »
Is there going to be an Australian specific contest as well as I don't think Australia is covered in the main contest?

Put my entry in and then realised Australia is not included.
 

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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #34 on: January 15, 2019, 12:17:37 pm »
Put my entry in and then realised Australia is not included.

Yes it is - but run separately.  Look further down the T&C...
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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #35 on: January 15, 2019, 12:18:00 pm »
ok waiste of my time ..  Belgium not listed in Terms & Conditions ..  weird becaue  Holland , France, Germany is .. ( our neighbours . )
 

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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #36 on: January 15, 2019, 12:38:54 pm »
Every country has a huge pile of laws and regulations for running sweepstakes. Some require an element of "skill" such as the question. Some require you to put a certain amount of money into escrow. Some forbid you from running a contest unless you have a local business presence. Go look at http://www.mardenkane.com/articles/international-sweepstakes-contest-laws-may-cause-problems.html for some of the headaches you'll have if you wanted to run your own contest.

That's why I only give away 2nd hand gear I find in the dumpster  ;)
 
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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #37 on: January 15, 2019, 01:13:17 pm »
That's why I only give away 2nd hand gear I find in the dumpster  ;)
I think people would enter a contest just to have access to your office complex dumpster!
 
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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #38 on: January 15, 2019, 02:34:38 pm »
Also, China is included but is running everything through WeChat

Interesting. Altium is doing the same thing. All their free training and other licensee's welfare are delivered and coordinated over WeChat instead of their official website.
Guess the Chinese government do not want to miss a thing when it comes to technologies.
 

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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #39 on: January 15, 2019, 02:39:42 pm »
Guess the Chinese government do not want to miss a thing when it comes to technologies.

Altium makes enough money in China, so much that it moved its HQ to Shanghai.
If I get to make so much money, I sure will get the marketing done properly.
It has nothing to do with Chinese government, besides some policies (read: privilege) given to foreign companies.
And why would anyone want to miss a thing when it comes to technologies?
 

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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #40 on: January 15, 2019, 02:49:09 pm »
I'm in!  :box:
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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #41 on: January 15, 2019, 02:53:06 pm »
Still not elegible, but hoping for next year.
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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #42 on: January 15, 2019, 03:01:39 pm »
Every country has a huge pile of laws and regulations for running sweepstakes. Some require an element of "skill" such as the question. Some require you to put a certain amount of money into escrow. Some forbid you from running a contest unless you have a local business presence. Go look at http://www.mardenkane.com/articles/international-sweepstakes-contest-laws-may-cause-problems.html for some of the headaches you'll have if you wanted to run your own contest.

That's why I only give away 2nd hand gear I find in the dumpster  ;)

What are you giving away this year dave?
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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #43 on: January 16, 2019, 03:51:02 am »
We use WeChat mainly because that's what the population uses there. There's also a lot of native support for things like this in the WeChat system, so it makes it pretty easy to setup & run. The China part of the event is run pretty much exclusively by the local China team, too.
 
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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #44 on: January 16, 2019, 10:10:38 am »
Hmmm I call dips on 33622A. I could really put that to good use.  :P But I never win anything...  :'(
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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #45 on: January 16, 2019, 10:50:58 am »
I pity you for only getting that 1GHz RTM3004 for free...
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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #46 on: February 09, 2019, 08:19:29 am »
Slightly off topic but I was wondering if you were ever considering doing an any-manufacturer trade in event again like when the 1000X series was first launched. I like my 1054Z but lately the clunky software has really been pissing me off, and I'm finding I rarely (if ever) need more than 2 analogue channels at once. Short of winning one, I'd be keen to trade it in and upgrade to a 11-or-1200X.
 

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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #47 on: February 09, 2019, 09:09:14 am »
I think the quiz/test thing is to prevent bots from winning or something like that, but I let the lawyers figure out all that stuff! It has to do with the local laws and isn't us making those rules.

Quiz/tests are sometimes used in giveaways to make it a 'game of skill' rather than a 'lottery' under the law.
Different rules apply for each, and the rules for a lottery are much harder to comply with.
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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #48 on: February 09, 2019, 09:26:06 am »
Interesting. Here in the UK (and EU) giveaways/competitions are fine as long as they are free to enter (otherwise it counts as a lottery). Often this is circumvented for competitions found in food/drink packaging by stipulating 'no purchase necessary' and providing some means to enter without having to purchase the product. This process is usually made intentionally inconvenient, such as sending a letter by post to the head office within a certain 1 week window.
 

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Re: Wave 2019 - Over 100 Prizes worth <$375k
« Reply #49 on: February 09, 2019, 11:05:52 am »
@ElectronicCat

I'll definitely pass that feedback along, it's not out of the question!
 


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