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Title: Asparagus
Post by: DrG on May 16, 2021, 06:14:08 pm
I like asparagus. Great vegetable. Sauteed with some olive oil and garlic...add a little salt and it is good to go.

(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/cooking/asparagus/?action=dlattach;attach=1219791;image)

I use the bend and snap method to get to the "tips". There is a natural breaking point and this has worked well for me.

(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/cooking/asparagus/?action=dlattach;attach=1219793;image)

Of course, this leaves me with more stalk than tip. Before you give me a ration about how I am throwing away the best part and not saving the earth or whatever, I have tried to use those stalks. I have sliced them very thin and fried them. I have peeled them and sliced them very thin and fried them. No matter what, they are still too fibrous and stringy and do not make it as far as I am concerned.

Some have told me that they use them in soups where you make it from scratch and simmer for many hours. I have not done that. Does it work? Does anyone have some secret methods?
Title: Re: Asparagus
Post by: Ian.M on May 16, 2021, 06:35:59 pm
Fine chop an inch or two of the top end to add back in as visible asparagus,  boil up the rest (add the cooking water from the tips if you boiled, or steamed them), blend and strain to extract the flavor, squeeze the pulp then discard it, then add the fine chopped Asparagus, simmer till reasonably tender then thicken, season and add other ingredients as desired, or if you are lazy simply add a packet of Asparagus soup powder.

You may want to cook one stalk with the tips to get an idea how much of the top end is soft enough to chop up.
Title: Re: Asparagus
Post by: jpanhalt on May 16, 2021, 07:17:57 pm
I suspect many people are familiar with Benjamin Franklin (early American statesman).  He wrote of asparagus in 1781, “A few stems of asparagus eaten, shall give our urine a disagreable odour.”  He also wrote what a wonderful vegetable it was.

Now the question is whether those people who can't detect that smell lack the ability to smell the compounds (quite common for other things) or the ability to produce the odorous compounds.  Apparently, it is some of both.

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Source: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/why-asparagus-makes-your-urine-smell-49961252/ (https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/why-asparagus-makes-your-urine-smell-49961252/)
More recent studies, though, suggest the issue is a bit more complicated. The most recent study, from 2010, found that differences existed between individuals in both the production and detection of the scent.

BTW: I like my asparagus just barely cooked, like 30 seconds in boiling water or w/o a timer, until they just turn to a darker green
Title: Re: Asparagus
Post by: DrG on May 16, 2021, 10:00:14 pm
That "fine chop an inch or two" is not a bad suggestion. The bend-for-break method works well as I said, but maybe I could maximize yield.

As for the pee issue - I have absolutely no difficulty detecting asparagusic acid. https://www.aurorahealthcare.org/patients-visitors/blog/why-asparagus-makes-your-pee-stink (https://www.aurorahealthcare.org/patients-visitors/blog/why-asparagus-makes-your-pee-stink) But it is worth it :)
Title: Re: Asparagus
Post by: Teledog on June 17, 2021, 11:34:02 pm
I like to peel the majority of the stalk carefully with a potato peeler.
Snap the large woody end off & compost, then marinate the rest for an hour (up to 4 hrs) in Italian salad dressing.
Grill on the BBQ (on seasoned expanded metal, or you'll lose 'em) until slightly charred all around.
Your pee will still stink.. ;)
Title: Re: Asparagus
Post by: David Hess on June 21, 2021, 12:53:27 am
Nobody likes asparagus, so I shot Gus.
Title: Re: Asparagus
Post by: DrG on June 21, 2021, 02:19:12 pm
Nobody likes asparagus, so I shot Gus.

In an attempt to make sense of your post, which I considered was some sort of quote from somewhere, I searched on your content. Still don't know what you are talking about, but I did find an interesting article that strongly discourages the natural break point snap method.

https://www.oregonlive.com/cooking/2016/03/why_snapping_asparagus_stalks.html (https://www.oregonlive.com/cooking/2016/03/why_snapping_asparagus_stalks.html)

I am likely to continue my method rather than their cited reduction of 30% waste from 50% waste through peeling and cutting because I have already tried that method with limited success (although I may have to look deeper into the cited testing/recipes). They did make a good point though; freshness of the product may be a big factor.
Title: Re: Asparagus
Post by: David Hess on June 22, 2021, 03:50:58 pm
Nobody likes asparagus, so I shot Gus.

In an attempt to make sense of your post, which I considered was some sort of quote from somewhere, I searched on your content. Still don't know what you are talking about, but I did find an interesting article that strongly discourages the natural break point snap method.

It is a line from a campfire skit filled with puns.  It is pre-internet and I have not been able to find it online.
Title: Re: Asparagus
Post by: coppercone2 on June 22, 2021, 10:50:40 pm
i blanch it for 3-4 minutes then grill with garlic spice (i.e. garlic pepper, garlic salt, or other) or pan fry with fresh garlic

and if you grill you can serve with aoli to include fresh garlic in the dish, which I feel is a good combo with asparagus, or garlic butter after its off the grill.. I feel like trying to get garlic on the grill is too hard
Title: Re: Asparagus
Post by: telliz on August 06, 2021, 01:56:46 pm
Interesting advices, thanks.