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| Is it possible to make yogurt using pylopass probiotics? |
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| langwadt:
--- Quote from: Georgy.Moshkin on July 19, 2023, 02:55:57 pm --- --- Quote from: langwadt on July 19, 2023, 12:16:29 am --- --- Quote from: Georgy.Moshkin on July 19, 2023, 12:06:08 am ---Edit: dosage is written on diy yoghurt kit plastic bags. No experiments with pylopass pills yet. I had around ten small plastic bags that came with yoghurt maker. I haven't bought more pylopass pills for experimentation yet, all money spent on electronic prototyping. Stay tuned, I will post my results here. Most important thing Is learned from replies is dangers of using non-pasteutized milk. Pasteurization prolongs my process, because milk cools down pretty slow during hot weather, and adding any probiotics during first hour probably kill most of good bacteria too. --- End quote --- unless you have your own cow where will you find non-pasteutized milk? --- End quote --- I don't need it. You are probably right, I haven't seen cows at the village I lived in, there was sheep, chicken, dogs, sometimes horses. But I am a little confused here. Do you want to know if I used raw milk, or maybe you meant that mentioning pasteurization and cooling down is out of context, because it is difficult to find non-pasteutized milk (or cow)? I only worried about weakly pasteurized milk, which can easily go bad even in a fridge after opened. I've experienced milk with black mold or bitter taste few times, it gone bad just in 2-3 days in a fridge (10deg Celsius). Now imagine this pasteurized milk in a heated jar, and with room temperature around 29 Celsius for 8 hours + time before it consumed, even if placed in th e fridge afterwards. UHT milk is probably safer to use in such conditions. Another aspect is repeatability, and I think that manual pasteurization at home may improve it. --- End quote --- afaik selling non-pasteurized milk isn't allowed in most places, and things like cheese made from raw milk is specially items that have exemptions from the rules for historic reasons 10'C is far too hot for a fridge, it should at most 5'C. Regular pasteurized milk easily last for 10 ten days in the fridge UHT milk tastes horrible |
| strawberry:
we had scientific TV show aired, where they made yogurt out of ordinary store yogurt. milk was pasteurized and added yogurt to ferment until turned milk into tasteless yogurt thing I guess, it is not possible to repeat this process endless |
| Marco:
--- Quote from: langwadt on July 19, 2023, 12:16:29 am ---unless you have your own cow where will you find non-pasteutized milk? --- End quote --- Some countries allow direct sale at the farm even when they don't allow commercial distribution. It was just intended as a warning for a corner case. E-coli food poisoning ain't what it used to be (the rise of shiga toxin occured during last century AFAIK). |
| Georgy.Moshkin:
I think it would be worth adding a follow-up on this story of home-made probiotics, because it also explains why I tried to cultivate them at home. I am sure that many of those who found this topic have some kind of digestive illness causing a lot of discomfort. Mine lasts for years. And yes, I did go to the doctor and did few omeprazole with bismuth and antibiotics courses. And here is why I am not satisfied (answer provided by ChatGPT): --- Quote ---Given that your insurance doesn’t cover outpatient services but covers inpatient care, your insurance company should have assisted you in finding an inpatient hospital when you called, especially since dizziness and stomach discomfort can indicate a potentially serious condition, like stomach bleeding. It's their responsibility to guide you to the right medical service that aligns with your coverage, especially in urgent situations. If they failed to clearly communicate with you and didn’t help you find appropriate care, that’s a service issue. Contacting your family member instead of you and only following up with a satisfaction call without addressing your medical concern is not ideal. You could file a complaint with your insurance company to express dissatisfaction with how they handled your situation, and ask for clarity on what you should expect in similar cases in the future. --- End quote --- I called them from the hospital, because there were no reservations left for the gastroenterologist. I wasn’t sure if I could go to the emergency. I am angry that instead of getting any meaningful help, I went home and just ate more talcid and drink some otc stomach powder and kind of "healed" by myself. So, if you are in a situation like mine, I think it is worth trying to go to the emergency and let the insurance work. At least you will have some proof of a serious condition. Regarding probiotics, I think that there may be a more powerful alternative based on Curcumin and other active herbal ingredients. The only problem is that boiling herbs in water doesn't help much with extracting those ingredients. There are some research papers on ethanol solubility of curcumin, but alcohol may make things worse for many. Maybe something like a highly concentrated tincture, a teaspoon of it with a big glass of water can be effective while mitigating stomach irritation by the alcohol. |
| helius:
I would caution that there really isn't good research about benefits of phytosubstances like curcumin, despite the massive marketing that promotes their use. Most of these substances are made by plants to defend themselves against animals (typically insects or rodents), and work by slowly poisoning the animals, often in very subtle ways. |
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