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Re: EEZ Bench Box 3 - Sequel to EEZ H24005
« Reply #275 on: August 04, 2020, 06:03:38 pm »
That's a huge milestone, congratulations!
 
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Re: EEZ Bench Box 3 - Sequel to EEZ H24005
« Reply #276 on: August 04, 2020, 10:46:19 pm »
Well done. Despite all of the trials you got there. More proof that production is just as hard as design. I'm led to believe these trials are character building.

I'd be fascinated to see your "Never Again" list.
 
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Re: EEZ Bench Box 3 - Sequel to EEZ H24005
« Reply #277 on: August 05, 2020, 03:36:51 am »
Great news! Hope you don’t hit further nasty surprises.
 
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Re: EEZ Bench Box 3 - Sequel to EEZ H24005
« Reply #278 on: August 05, 2020, 05:53:55 am »
Well done. Despite all of the trials you got there. More proof that production is just as hard as design. I'm led to believe these trials are character building.

I'd be fascinated to see your "Never Again" list.

I plan to open a new topic under e.g. Manufacturing & Assembly and describe why I shouldn’t have chosen AssemTec Europe and warn other creators what can await them along the way, i.e. how bad things can turn out.

It will take me a long time to recover from what they have done to me, but I can only blame myself for choosing these dilettantes.
 
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Re: EEZ Bench Box 3 - Sequel to EEZ H24005
« Reply #279 on: August 05, 2020, 09:19:55 am »
I plan to open a new topic under e.g. Manufacturing & Assembly and describe why I shouldn’t have chosen AssemTec Europe and warn other creators what can await them along the way, i.e. how bad things can turn out.

Take care... they may be better at lawyering than making.  ;)
 

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Re: EEZ Bench Box 3 - Sequel to EEZ H24005
« Reply #280 on: August 05, 2020, 09:22:07 am »
I plan to open a new topic under e.g. Manufacturing & Assembly and describe why I shouldn’t have chosen AssemTec Europe and warn other creators what can await them along the way, i.e. how bad things can turn out.

Take care... they may be better at lawyering than making.  ;)

We'll see!

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Re: EEZ Bench Box 3 - Sequel to EEZ H24005
« Reply #281 on: August 05, 2020, 10:23:17 am »
And once again, I can only commend you :)
Not only did you learn yourself, but will also teach others  :-+

By the way, I already wanted to ask that with the other picture of completed units.
Is that Dave's version of the Open Source logo, with the letters giving more details about the "openness"?
 
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Re: EEZ Bench Box 3 - Sequel to EEZ H24005
« Reply #282 on: August 05, 2020, 10:29:13 am »
By the way, I already wanted to ask that with the other picture of completed units.
Is that Dave's version of the Open Source logo, with the letters giving more details about the "openness"?

Yes, it is. I believe I used it the right way.

 
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Re: EEZ Bench Box 3 - Sequel to EEZ H24005
« Reply #283 on: August 08, 2020, 09:24:43 pm »
I will ask this here, several potentially interested people are already here ;)

Would there be any interest if i start somewhat of a "Build Log" in the projects forum?
This would explicitly be written from the perspective of a relative "noob" :p

My intentions for such a build log would be multiple, in no particular order:
- share my work with others doing the same, giving and hopefully receiving pointers
- Let the community help get my ass in motion :p

This could even work as a sanity check for your documentation ;)

EDIT: I should clarify: That would be for the "bare boards" kit, and would start with ordering (and maybe selecting and searching for) components, over soldering, assembly, calibration and finish, hopefully, with first uses.
« Last Edit: August 08, 2020, 09:29:06 pm by Ranayna »
 
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Re: EEZ Bench Box 3 - Sequel to EEZ H24005
« Reply #284 on: August 09, 2020, 06:32:03 am »
Sounds like a great idea to me, and I'll try to assist as much as possible.

BTW, I have a number of DCP405 modules that I failed to revive in all my attempts and that ended up in the "junkyard". On most of them are still all the components that I believe are good (they are new!) but are so badly soldered that probably only re-soldering would help. I’m willing to offer them for some small price and I believe they could be interesting to BB3 Enclosure & Bare Boards backers.

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Re: EEZ Bench Box 3 - Sequel to EEZ H24005
« Reply #285 on: August 09, 2020, 11:07:48 am »
I'm interested in the junkyard modules for sure.
 

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Re: EEZ Bench Box 3 - Sequel to EEZ H24005
« Reply #286 on: August 09, 2020, 11:35:52 am »
I would definitely be interested in junk yard modules - I had been intending to get 2 sets of bare boards and enclosures anyway (the bank blocked that transaction as "dodgy") but ended up with just the one set on order - it would probably help me improve my fault finding skills as well.

Jem
 

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Re: EEZ Bench Box 3 - Sequel to EEZ H24005
« Reply #287 on: August 09, 2020, 12:56:25 pm »
I would be interested as well. I think that would be a nice way to lessen your frustration if you can get at least *some* money still.
I assume you are essentially done with the assembly house, that you will not try to get them to compensate you for the broken modules?
 

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Re: EEZ Bench Box 3 - Sequel to EEZ H24005
« Reply #288 on: August 09, 2020, 01:05:42 pm »
I would be interested as well. I think that would be a nice way to lessen your frustration if you can get at least *some* money still.
I assume you are essentially done with the assembly house, that you will not try to get them to compensate you for the broken modules?

Hm, AssemTec Europe, an "assembly house"? They are bad middleman at best. They still didn't deliver all modules, nor I have idea what are they intentions many months after first promised delivery date. I'm more or less gave up from them, since it seems that human communication is not possible to establish with them.

I'd like to offer junk yard modules for 25 USD + PayPal fee + shipping if that sounds right to you. No warranty that all parts will be on them (I mean a part here and there could missing) and that all parts are healthy.
« Last Edit: August 09, 2020, 02:38:25 pm by prasimix »
 
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Re: EEZ Bench Box 3 - Sequel to EEZ H24005
« Reply #289 on: August 09, 2020, 01:17:29 pm »
How many are available?
 

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Re: EEZ Bench Box 3 - Sequel to EEZ H24005
« Reply #290 on: August 09, 2020, 02:36:41 pm »
More then 20 :(

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Re: EEZ Bench Box 3 - Sequel to EEZ H24005
« Reply #291 on: August 09, 2020, 05:21:14 pm »
I would like to take 2. Do you have any estimations regarding shipping?
 

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Re: EEZ Bench Box 3 - Sequel to EEZ H24005
« Reply #292 on: August 09, 2020, 05:46:30 pm »
I would like to take 2. Do you have any estimations regarding shipping?

I can ship problematic DCP405 modules immediately. For crowdfunding fulfillment I need official purchase order from Mouser which is still not issued, don't know why :-//.

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Re: EEZ Bench Box 3 - Sequel to EEZ H24005
« Reply #293 on: August 10, 2020, 01:25:47 pm »
I'm also interested in 2 modules if they are still available.
 

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Re: EEZ Bench Box 3 - Sequel to EEZ H24005
« Reply #294 on: August 10, 2020, 02:26:10 pm »
Yes, there is a plenty of them. It seems that for the weight of two modules (about 600g) post is charging about 12-13 USD for the US and the EU. Anyone interested feel free to contact me via PM or email at eez@envox.hr.

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Re: EEZ Bench Box 3 - Sequel to EEZ H24005
« Reply #295 on: August 10, 2020, 02:55:10 pm »
Hm, AssemTec Europe, an "assembly house"? They are bad middleman at best. They still didn't deliver all modules, nor I have idea what are they intentions many months after first promised delivery date. I'm more or less gave up from them, since it seems that human communication is not possible to establish with them.

I'd like to offer junk yard modules for 25 USD + PayPal fee + shipping if that sounds right to you. No warranty that all parts will be on them (I mean a part here and there could missing) and that all parts are healthy.
Having a two man outfit not communicate shows malicious intent. It can only mean they're wilfully ignoring you.
 

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Re: EEZ Bench Box 3 - Sequel to EEZ H24005
« Reply #296 on: August 10, 2020, 03:06:25 pm »
I don't know what to say, really, but can see a pattern lately: one of two brothers who is in charge for manual assembly of THT parts spent its weekend spare time (in the basement or attic :)) and sends me what he managed to put together the day after. So this morning I got the UPS tracking number notification again on a new batch of about 40 modules (10 kg package).
If they continue like this they will surely be finished even this month! Amazing! Okay, it's a completely different story hoe looks like what they're sending to me. :palm:
My junkyard is keep growing, so once again thanks to all who decided to get some of faulty modules and try to resolder parts to bare PCBs.

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Re: EEZ Bench Box 3 - Sequel to EEZ H24005
« Reply #297 on: August 11, 2020, 06:20:47 am »
I guess we know why the zener diodes were soldered backwards, but they should have just said... "Very sorry, pick-n-place machine had too much to drink last night, can't see straight."  ;D
 
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Re: EEZ Bench Box 3 - Sequel to EEZ H24005
« Reply #298 on: August 11, 2020, 06:34:52 am »
I guess we know why the zener diodes were soldered backwards, but they should have just said... "Very sorry, pick-n-place machine had too much to drink last night, can't see straight."  ;D

I'd like to say that there is a good indications that some of the modules are populated by hand, not the PnP machine. How else to explain that I found that the same IC used in two places, in the first position is placed on all modules correctly, and in the second position is rotated on 13 modules? Another example: on the single module I found 6 ICs rotated!

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Re: EEZ Bench Box 3 - Sequel to EEZ H24005
« Reply #299 on: August 11, 2020, 06:40:54 am »
Another example: on the single module I found 6 ICs rotated!

You can send me that one if you like.  Good rework practice for my new employee.   :-/O
 


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