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Offline justanothercanuck

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Re: Keef goes crowdfunding!!
« Reply #25 on: May 13, 2013, 10:31:55 am »
I like the idea ....  but a book - boring. You need to turn it into a musical. I am thinking of something like "Jesus Christ Superstar".

that was worth a laugh in the morning...  :-DD
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Offline Keef WivanefTopic starter

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Re: Keef goes crowdfunding!!
« Reply #26 on: May 13, 2013, 10:42:09 am »
I've got the theme song ready :P


The Ballad of Greg Watson
Come and listen to a story
Bout a man named Greg
A poor old aging scammer
Barely kept his fambly fed
And then one day he was looking at his roof
Said I'll dream me up a sunball
And I'll say that it's the troof

Well the sunball turned to suncube
And to mark two three four five
And the money kept on flowing
It felt good to be alive
But those customers kept asking
When those suncubes they'd be getting
And they started asking questions
Bout the things Greg kept forgettin

Like....Proof Greg
Simple proof
Taint hard

Well now Greg he chucked a wobbly
And he said you won't be gettin
Not a single bloody suncube
Cos it's secret...I'm not tellin
But youse can all still buy a share
In my solar funny farm
And I'm keepin all the money
So there's no cause for alarm

Gold
Green and Gold
YEE HARRRR!

Well Greg he's building factries
In Indya and Korea
But Keef he said
Hey Greg..just cut the crap
And get on out of here
Your proposals are preposterous
Your aim is very clear
So take your stupid Suncubes
And insert them in your rear!

Segue
Know when to hold em
Know when to fold em!
>:D
Better watch out they are still trying to sell SunPubes in Canada
 http://www.fs-es.com/suncube/fs_suncube_brochure.pdf
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Re: Keef goes crowdfunding!!
« Reply #27 on: May 13, 2013, 10:17:09 pm »

Proof that the book exists?  What do you want, a free copy?  :--

Why not?
I have no plans to buy it, so you've lost nothing if you sent me the ebook, or whatever state it's in right now.
I could be an independent third party that can validate your book exists.


Dave, I'm in Sydney for the next few weeks and not all that far away from you.
I'm not willing to hand over the manuscript but if you'd like to meet up for a coffee you can browse through it on my laptop.
You can then report back to your readers that the book has been written (it's approx 80,000 words).
You can also confirm that as an author, Keef is up there with Stephen King, Philip Roth and Doctor Seuss.

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Re: Keef goes crowdfunding!!
« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2013, 10:22:12 pm »
Quote from: Keef Wivanef
[ move ][ /move ]
[ move ][ /move ]
[ move ][ /move ]

Dude. Stop. You're making me dizzy.
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Re: Keef goes crowdfunding!!
« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2013, 10:37:05 pm »
There have been comments from some folks that the victims of the SunCube Scam and similar ones deserved to lose their money because they are greedy/stupid/did not do their homework.

You have obviously not had any involvement with a good con-artist
You should read " Firepower" http://books.google.com.au/books/about/Firepower.html?id=wmbOdDZv4NwC
and also "No one would listen" by Harry Markopolos http://www.amazon.com/No-One-Would-Listen-Financial/dp/0470919000

Some victims of those scams committed suicide.

Here is an email I received from a SunCube victim

Hi Keef

No good news for suncubes. Some have worked for a day or 2 and some have run for a few weeks, it’s a long way from what Greg claims, They started falling apart within 9 months of installation for which greg blames the Indian manufacturer, even though he has put in at least 20 hours on average on each suncube, Possibly closer to 30 hours, lens are falling out, again the fault of the Indians and now the lens maker. The list of excuses is endless. I believe if Greg wrote a book of excuses he would make more money that he ever can legitimately with the suncubes. Early days his true nature revealed he was always blaming others for his shortcomings and never taking responsibility himself, even though he put so many hours on each cube, when I realized his nature of blaming I did not touch or have any input into the cubes so he didn’t have any excuse to blame me.  Many times when he could not sort the issues he would claim his Malaria had come back and had to run back to Australia, Once he claimed he picked up malaria in Bangkok, After I assured him that could not happen he came up with it was a type of malaria the reoccurs.

He blamed external spiking for damage issues even though there were serious reliability issues when not connected to the grid. I have a theory some of the things that happened with the cubes were created by Greg to remove the blame from himself, evidence of that I will keep to myself in case it is needed in a court case that I will take against him.

From the day the suncubes arrived here in Bangkok it has been a disaster, as well as the license fee it has cost me more that double that in buying parts for him , running him around, picking up and dropping him off, costs of setting up finance for projects with our bankers, not to mention my partners and my credibility with government departments  and contractors.

He hides behind the internet, wont talk on skype as he doesn’t want people who know the real story hear him telling lies, he wont return emails . he wont answer his phone, all he does is send text messages like a teenager which are attempts at stalling what he doesn’t realize the inevitable action against him.

Some pics attached of the suncubes, or should I call them OFFsuncubes chasing birds or butterflies, everything except the sun. Note the bowing of the lens after new lens were installed by Greg

Peter

 

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Re: Keef goes crowdfunding!!
« Reply #30 on: May 13, 2013, 11:23:32 pm »
Keef, after seeing the forum posts you're writing, I wouldn't touch your book with a ten foot pole. You sound like a drunk 12 year old on Adderall. Shouldn't a writer know how to write?
 

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Re: Keef goes crowdfunding!!
« Reply #31 on: May 13, 2013, 11:25:37 pm »
Not to mention the Indiegogo page. I can't tell if this is just an elaborate ironic hoax or if you're serious about writing this thing. Just awful.
 

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Re: Keef goes crowdfunding!!
« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2013, 11:29:07 pm »
IRONY!
Congratulations...not many people get that  :)
 

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Re: Keef goes crowdfunding!!
« Reply #33 on: May 14, 2013, 12:30:52 am »
No doubt Mr Watson is reading this from his hideaway.
Perhaps he will drop by and threaten all of us with defamation again.


SunChez wrote:
Re: I warned Watson...but he wouldn't listen 
 

Hi keefwivanef, I have been reading this post with great interest. I have had some dealings with this con artist, I live in Adelaide, is there any chance we can catch up for a chat about it.

SunChez

Watson was a bit upset by this, and posted some friendly advice for SunChez

Greenandgoldenergy wrote:
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SunChez wrote: "Hi keefwivanef, I have been reading this post with great interest. I have had some dealings with this con artist, I live in Adelaide, is there any chance we can catch up for a chat about it."

I have reported your defamatory remarks about me to Yahoo and asked for your details. If you make another such remark about me, GGE, the SunCube or the SCIG, the next step will be legal action for Defamation against you. If you stand to gain financially from your defamation, you should be aware that this crosses the line from a civil action to a criminal action. BTW I note you alias was created in April 2009. Not much time to read anything. I suggest your next step is an apology to me and to walk away from this.
All the best,
Green and Gold Energy Pty., Ltd
Greg Watson


Scary stuff

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum/?action=threads_searchft&q=greg+watson+suncube+defamation&f=&fg=-1&m=

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CaptainScarlet writes...
It's a scam...
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=suncube+fraud&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a
There are many other threads on this site stating the same

Hi CaptainScarlet,

I would suggest you should think about getting involved in a defamation court proceeding before posting links that you do not know contain 100% truthful information. So you know, all those claims came from one person, who has NO PROOF of anything he claims.
Just to be very clear here. Unless you are PROVE, in court, that the claim you just made is true, GGE can now sue you for defamation.

Care to apologize?

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Greg Watson, Mng Dir,
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This thread is like Groundhog Day

Look out for the next defamation threat in another 7 page's time
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Re: Keef goes crowdfunding!!
« Reply #34 on: May 14, 2013, 02:01:59 am »
IRONY!
Congratulations...not many people get that  :)

You appear to have a marginally worse conception of what "irony" means than Alanis Morissette. Congratulations.
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Re: Keef goes crowdfunding!!
« Reply #35 on: May 14, 2013, 02:11:40 am »
Keef
Please stop re-posting content ad nauseam from other forums, it's getting real tiring.
 

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Re: Keef goes crowdfunding!!
« Reply #36 on: May 14, 2013, 02:12:33 am »
When I hear that song I feel like hurling a lump of iron at the radio  :)
 

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Re: Keef goes crowdfunding!!
« Reply #37 on: May 14, 2013, 02:14:01 am »
What a coincidence! We both have things that make us want to hurl lumps of iron at things.

Guess what mine is quickly becoming.
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Re: Keef goes crowdfunding!!
« Reply #38 on: May 14, 2013, 04:33:27 am »
Why does the term attention seeking whore come to mind?
I delete PMs unread. If you have something to say, say it in public.
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Re: Keef goes crowdfunding!!
« Reply #39 on: May 14, 2013, 04:36:37 am »
He had a minor win over some scammer 2 years ago and it's still the highlight of his life. A bit sad.
 

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Re: Keef goes crowdfunding!!
« Reply #40 on: May 14, 2013, 10:16:39 pm »
I've got TWO backers!!!
Only need one more and I've got a CROWD

Whoooooo Hooooooooooooo!
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Re: Keef goes crowdfunding!!
« Reply #41 on: May 14, 2013, 11:57:34 pm »
Can I have a free copy please Keef? The story looks well interesting...

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Re: Keef goes crowdfunding!!
« Reply #42 on: May 15, 2013, 07:29:39 am »
If I told you that, I'd have to KILL YOU  >:D
Whoo Hooo!
 

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Re: Keef goes crowdfunding!!
« Reply #43 on: May 15, 2013, 12:03:49 pm »
I've got TWO backers!!!
Only need one more and I've got a CROWD

Whoooooo Hooooooooooooo!
 :-+

why don't you just create a website and put all of your gripes on it instead of trying to drum up some money for a book ?

I did this once for a couple of scam artists that took me for a ride and when it got top ranking in a google search they sent me a letter kindly asking me to take it down because it was having a serious impact on their business. What goes around comes around :D LOL Mind you I never made it personal so they could never go me for defamation nor did they offer to compensate me financially but at least I got my message across and hopefully stopped others from going down the same path ;) No book needed !! The power of the Internet is enough ;)

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Re: Keef goes crowdfunding!!
« Reply #44 on: May 15, 2013, 09:41:45 pm »
Ooooh I like the new cartoons.
I think I'll have to try one :blah:

Nice!

Now, where was I?
Website? good idea. Coming real soon.
The crowd is not terribly large just yet and my trip to Barbados is looking a bit iffy.
Time to ramp it up a notch.
I'll be doing some updates to to Indiegogo page today so any suggestions (no, not that! It's a physical impossibility) are welcome.

I wonder what Greggy is up to today. His cold fusion scam ran into a bit of trouble.

http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/03/report-from-visitor-to-defkalion/


 

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Re: Keef goes crowdfunding!!
« Reply #45 on: May 15, 2013, 11:31:11 pm »
"to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee."

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Re: Keef goes crowdfunding!!
« Reply #46 on: May 15, 2013, 11:56:46 pm »
Con -artists?
Yurp...guilty as charged.
I fur king HATE them  :rant:

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Re: Keef goes crowdfunding!!
« Reply #47 on: May 16, 2013, 12:33:31 pm »
Jesus people, stop feeding the troll
 

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Re: Keef goes crowdfunding!!
« Reply #48 on: May 17, 2013, 07:56:09 am »
DELETED BY MOD.
Another Keef sockpuppet account.
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Re: Keef goes crowdfunding!!
« Reply #49 on: May 21, 2013, 11:55:35 pm »
We have an American version of Keef.

His name is Gary Busey.

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