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Products => Crowd Funded Projects => Topic started by: bleckers on July 09, 2016, 12:44:19 pm

Title: Own Kickstarter - SubPos Ranger: Indoor Positioning System
Post by: bleckers on July 09, 2016, 12:44:19 pm
Hi Guys,

I thought I'd post an Aussie Kickstarter my wife and I have been developing, for some scrutiny, questions and/or suggestions (I'm a tech guy and write like one, so if you have some marketing advice that would be awesome too). It's based on the Atmel ATREB233SMAD-EK development platform and gives pretty accurate line of site positioning for hobbyists to play and experiment with. The boards we are releasing are a versatile 2.4GHz RF platform that not only measure distance and position between each other, they can even passively detect motion without any client hardware (see the updates for a demo video), or be used for a variety of other RF purposes (it uses the Atmel AT86RF233 chipset).

Anyway, here goes.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/subpos/subpos-ranger-indoor-positioning-system (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/subpos/subpos-ranger-indoor-positioning-system)
Title: Re: Own Kickstarter - SubPos Ranger: Indoor Positioning System
Post by: bitslice on July 09, 2016, 01:14:28 pm
Can't hear your voice over the music, so thanks for the subtitles.
I think this is an old person thing rather than a clarity issue as I've only recently noticed it, although a better microphone helps.

This has to work on a cat, all other applications are less interesting.

It's £31, for anyone in the UK (+shipping?)
Title: Re: Own Kickstarter - SubPos Ranger: Indoor Positioning System
Post by: bleckers on July 09, 2016, 01:16:28 pm
Oh really? Thanks for that! I'll play it back on a few devices and try to get the volume right and re-upload.

It will definitely work for cats too. I just need to borrow a cat to demo it :P

Edit: I've just adjusted it a bit, hopefully the background music doesn't drown out the voice now.
Title: Re: Own Kickstarter - SubPos Ranger: Indoor Positioning System
Post by: bitslice on July 09, 2016, 01:35:03 pm
Apparently it's a degradation in temporal discrimination (the cocktail party effect) rather than a hearing loss
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/aaa/jaaa/2012/00000023/00000008/art00007 (http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/aaa/jaaa/2012/00000023/00000008/art00007)


sorry for the tangent, just adding to my trivia collection


anyhoo, if you wanted to cover a larger area (say a Uni campus), would you just add more boards?
I've heard of less accurate systems that just use whatever wi-fi access points are in range.
Title: Re: Own Kickstarter - SubPos Ranger: Indoor Positioning System
Post by: bleckers on July 09, 2016, 01:49:04 pm
anyhoo, if you wanted to cover a larger area (say a Uni campus), would you just add more boards?
I've heard of less accurate systems that just use whatever wi-fi access points are in range.

You could definitely do it, however you do need the client to get the distance measurements. I have created a "dataless" Wi-Fi positioning system that the Ranger works with to support this sort of functionality (http://subpos.org/?q=details (http://subpos.org/?q=details)), but I don't think it would see wide support because of the hardware requirements.

Just using the Wi-Fi positioning system on its own however works with most smartphones that allow you to use the Wi-Fi scanning APIs (not Apple unfortunately). So if you don't mind the lower accuracy you get from distance measurements with RSSI, you could use that (it's all open-source).