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Re: Perf+: an improvement on perfboards and Veroboards
« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2015, 10:49:15 am »
You could patent this. Just saying.
Not any more, he couldn't. It has been disclosed by publication.

OTOH nobody else could patent it and prevent him from making it himself.
Depends on the country. In US, you can publish and still file a patent application up to a year later. But I doubt any perfboard innovation could make enough money to justify the patent costs.
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Re: Perf+: an improvement on perfboards and Veroboards
« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2015, 10:35:42 pm »
A few years back I saw this pcb that is the opposite of this idea - instead of make the tracks easy to cut they made it easy to make controlled solder bridges.  I kinda like the idea, but I've never tried it myself.

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I quite like that, tempted to knock a load out myself. I hate standard veroboard, having to do wires and tracks not cutting properly and cusing problems. I soon loose track of what I am doing and have connected already. I'm tempted to have a load of these knocked out if anything for myself unless i can buy them. I seem to keep getting people asking for one off projects and veroboard is hard to make a good design on first time round.
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Re: Perf+: an improvement on perfboards and Veroboards
« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2015, 02:40:52 pm »
Nope.  You can file a provisional a year before a patent application, but you can't do a provisional after public disclosure.

You could patent this. Just saying.
Not any more, he couldn't. It has been disclosed by publication.

OTOH nobody else could patent it and prevent him from making it himself.
Depends on the country. In US, you can publish and still file a patent application up to a year later. But I doubt any perfboard innovation could make enough money to justify the patent costs.
 

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Re: Perf+: an improvement on perfboards and Veroboards
« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2015, 02:48:17 pm »
I'm sure there are variations on the theme. What happens if someone designs a slightly different pad, is the pad design or concept patented ?
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Re: Perf+: an improvement on perfboards and Veroboards
« Reply #29 on: July 19, 2015, 06:00:55 pm »
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is the pad design or concept patented

Depends on the claims (and only on the claims). If you claimed the specific pattern then some other pattern would be OK. If you claim the principle (i.e. pads joined with tracks with 0.1mm gaps) then that would cover any pattern with 0.1mm gaps. The more general your claim the harder it is get it accepted, and it is very easy indeed to make a claim with a bunch of holes anyone can drive a truck through. Thus a patent agent is usually good value for money if you're serious about a patent.

OTOH, you might just want to be able to say "my patented product" and not give a toss if anyone else rips it off - they won't be able to claim their knock-off is patented (unless they think up their own one). In such a case, a patent agent is wasted money, as may be the patent (depends what it's worth to your ego).

In this case, I would think that there is plenty of prior art to make a reasonably generalised claim impractical. But you could probably get quite specific and acquire patent status that way. Or, if it's just for a kickstarter project (i.e. the sales period is limited and not long term), shove in any old rubbish and say it's "patent pending". By the time it's rejected you'll either have your money or given up and be on a different scam :)

 

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Re: Perf+: an improvement on perfboards and Veroboards
« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2015, 06:30:13 pm »
Oh I'm not interested in patenting it jut getting some made for myself and see how i get on with them. I've just done a design and will start getting manufacturing pricing for a small batch.

I was wondering if someone did patent it could they patent the concept or would they be limited to their specific pad design.
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Re: Perf+: an improvement on perfboards and Veroboards
« Reply #31 on: July 19, 2015, 07:55:14 pm »
You can patent absolutely anything, just be prepared to defend yourself in case if someone disagrees. At least USPTO seems to grant most of the filed applications.

The thing that really matters in the patent is the last part where all the claims are enumerated, if you mention a specific pad design, then this patent will cover only that design. But what usually happens is that patent mentions a specific design and the rest of the claims  are just variations on the first one, as many as you can think of.

The good news is that you are allowed to manufacture patented stuff for your own use (not for sale).
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Re: Perf+: an improvement on perfboards and Veroboards
« Reply #32 on: July 22, 2015, 12:01:33 pm »
If you missed out on the kickstarter and would like to buy some:

The Perf+ Store is now open at the-perf-shop.myshopify.com.
All the items are stocked and ready for shipping.
 


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