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SafeSleeve: Stuff on IndieGoGo that manages funding...
« on: May 04, 2013, 02:01:25 pm »
Like this radiation blocking laptop case.  :-DD
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/safesleeve-the-all-in-one-radiation-blocking-laptop-case

It's got $9k already. Wow.
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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2013, 02:21:53 pm »
4 people already took a distributor pack @ $900!
I'm pretty sure if you get 2 of those it also comes with a set of tinfoil hats too.  :p

 

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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2013, 02:35:10 pm »
I don't understand. If this sleeve blocks EMR, then wouldn't the laptop's wireless systems be compromised as well?
 

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Re: Stuff on IndieGoGo that manages funding...
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2013, 04:04:37 pm »
The campaign hasn't finished but someone already bought 2 for their grandchidlren :-//
 

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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2013, 06:59:59 pm »
Referencing unidentified research it says:
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Recent research suggests that any EMF exposure above 3 milliGauss may be linked to diseases such as:...

Hmm, quick sanity check: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauss_(unit)
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0.31–0.58 gauss – the Earth's magnetic field at its surface

ZOMG!!!!! The Earth causes cancer!!  :-DD
 

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Re: Stuff on IndieGoGo that manages funding...
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2013, 07:12:13 pm »
I don't understand. If this sleeve blocks EMR, then wouldn't the laptop's wireless systems be compromised as well?

Silly, you misunderstood the purpose of the product. It is not about a well reasoned attempt to make the world better through the application of well understood principles at the nexus of medicine/biology/physics/engineering.

It is about FEARMONGERING in a friendly, clean, and fashionable package.
 

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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2013, 07:52:12 pm »
It is about FEARMONGERING in a friendly, clean, and fashionable package.

You forgot profitable. ;)
 

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Re: Stuff on IndieGoGo that manages funding...
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2013, 07:58:33 pm »
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"Using a laptop on your lap is paradoxically not a safe way to use it"
- Dr. Joseph Mercola

Anyone want to start an Indiegogo fund to pay this guy never to use the word "paradoxically" again? I've got $500 - who's with me?
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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2013, 08:25:45 pm »
Oh this is hilarious  :-DD
I mean, it would make a little tiny bit of sense if these people actually knew a little bit of physics, but... Oh god.
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« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2013, 08:28:27 pm »
On the positive side of things, I think they have a really good chance of delivering their product on time. I mean, it's just a leather laptop sleeve.
 

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« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2013, 08:55:22 pm »
Okay but presume that this thing "actually worked" though its intentions I'm still not sure of, wouldn't a so called radiation blocker limit the laptops wireless capabilities?

What would they even put in there? A sheet of lead?
 

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« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2013, 09:06:14 pm »
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What would they even put in there? A sheet of lead?

No - they specifically say it's not lead

Mu metal perhaps

The screen seems to be intended to go under the laptop - presumably the dangerous radiation only goes down  :-DD
 

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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2013, 09:17:54 pm »
Okay but presume that this thing "actually worked" though its intentions I'm still not sure of, wouldn't a so called radiation blocker limit the laptops wireless capabilities?

Yes, as well as your view of the display...
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« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2013, 10:25:49 pm »
Goodness gracious....great BALLS of fire  :-DD
 

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« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2013, 10:28:07 pm »
Okay but presume that this thing "actually worked" though its intentions I'm still not sure of, wouldn't a so called radiation blocker limit the laptops wireless capabilities?

Yes, as well as your view of the display...

Why display?
 

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« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2013, 10:35:01 pm »
Duh!  :-DD
 

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Re: SafeSleeve: Stuff on IndieGoGo that manages funding...
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2013, 11:18:22 pm »
If they truly want to shield the laptop, they must also shield the LCD. In fact, as far as EMI goes, that is one of the largest sources of it. Ever thought about the pixel clock of a modern LCD? 1280 cols x 800 rows x 3 subpixels x 60 frames/sec = 184 MHz. Each data driver (at the top or bottom of the LCD) has to handle that and there are 3,840 of them.
 

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Re: SafeSleeve: Stuff on IndieGoGo that manages funding...
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2013, 11:22:17 pm »
If they truly want to shield the laptop, they must also shield the LCD. In fact, as far as EMI goes, that is one of the largest sources of it.

Yeah, but then you wouldn't be able to flog a product that "worked"  :palm:
So best not to mention pesky details like that!
 

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« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2013, 11:33:14 pm »
Classic snake oil product that takes a few basic scientific ideas, a few measurements, and extrapolates a supposed needed solution.  :palm:
Throw in the obligatory fear mongering, happy photo of the family, and some quotes from dodgy doctors http://www.emfandhealth.com/Samuel%20Milham.html
And it's a perfectly executed useless product campaign, well done!
I won't use the word scam, because:
a) these people usually really do passionately believe this stuff
b) I think they'll actually deliver a reasonable quality product, and intend to.
c) The measurements are likely real (but they don't actually show what they claim of course, but minor detail  :palm:)

So this one wins the classic snake oil award of the week  :-+
 

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Re: SafeSleeve: Stuff on IndieGoGo that manages funding...
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Re: SafeSleeve: Stuff on IndieGoGo that manages funding...
« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2013, 04:06:14 am »
I haven't fathered any children yet :) I  think I'll wrap "the boys" in al-foil when I use the laptop. I mean, radiation only goes down, right?  ::)
 

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Re: Stuff on IndieGoGo that manages funding...
« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2013, 04:30:06 am »
Okay but presume that this thing "actually worked" though its intentions I'm still not sure of, wouldn't a so called radiation blocker limit the laptops wireless capabilities?

Yes, as well as your view of the display...

Why display?

Because light is EM radiation.
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SafeSleeve: Stuff on IndieGoGo that manages funding...
« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2013, 05:41:36 am »
Mu metal perhaps

As long as its not Mu thermal....  Oops, wrong scam!

:D

 

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Re: Stuff on IndieGoGo that manages funding...
« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2013, 01:53:25 pm »
Okay but presume that this thing "actually worked" though its intentions I'm still not sure of, wouldn't a so called radiation blocker limit the laptops wireless capabilities?

Yes, as well as your view of the display...

Why display?

Because light is EM radiation.

Oh derppp.  |O

Very dangerous EMR!!!
 

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Re: Stuff on IndieGoGo that manages funding...
« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2013, 01:56:53 pm »
Because light is EM radiation.

Oh derppp.  |O

Very dangerous EMR!!!

Hey, I've got an EM burn all over my arms and face! That visible radiation is hazardous.  ;)
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