Its just a diode. the Eb/Ib runs up to 100 volts at which point it begins to ionize. Since the anode is just a flag of nickel I was not able to outgas it completely. Monday i will make another with a cylindrical anode to allow better out gassing. That is using a .001 X .05 moly filament about 2.5 inches long. Pure moly so there is no reducing chemical in it. That was coated in triple carbonate. I reached a peak emission of 25ma which for just pure moly as a base metal is not bad. I have some real deal nickel/cobalt with a touch of chrome filaments that I know are really good. They are actually filaments for 596 rectifiers which are the same as 5R4's. When I get my system all in shape i will start playing with those. Until then I don't want to waste them. Plenty of experimenting to do for the time being with moly, pure nickel, and tungsten. I would actually like to try playing with thoria bonded tungsten. Its all around the more forgiving. Ultimately however I would like to come up with some small possibly surface mount triodes for people to mostly just play with. Something with a little geek sheik factor. Perhaps even surface mount power tubes since people use FR4 these days and it can take the heat so to speak. There is no need to re invent the wheel. I want something new and cool, and to be in the position one day that if Russia and china say to heck with it, i can at least do something. I just heard however that JJ died and his son is taking over the company. I have met them both a number of times and I believe this will actually be a good thing. The son is competent and has been shadowing his dad for man years now. I am also kinda eyeballing the lowly 45 triode. They are a very easy design to build. Wide tolerances and kinda cool looking. I would have to sell them for like $60 each, but there may be a novelty market in it. What would you think being you are the only person actually reading this thread! I could also do a nice package with 4 tubes and two output transformers type of thing. Kinda sharp looking.