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Products => Crowd Funded Projects => Topic started by: mairo on December 22, 2019, 01:14:27 am

Title: Will this device has problems with Fluke?
Post by: mairo on December 22, 2019, 01:14:27 am
I think this has FLUKE written all over it. I bet there will be issues with this device being sold in the US.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1241079629/panfee-v1-pro-worlds-1st-laser-measure-tool-w-cross-line/description (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1241079629/panfee-v1-pro-worlds-1st-laser-measure-tool-w-cross-line/description)
Title: Re: Will this device has problems with Fluke?
Post by: james_s on December 22, 2019, 06:04:16 am
The color scheme does resemble that used by Fluke, although I don't think anyone will seriously confuse it with one. Change the yellow to something else and it should be fine.
Title: Re: Will this device has problems with Fluke?
Post by: donotdespisethesnake on December 23, 2019, 03:29:35 pm
Yup, Fluke "owns" yellow color on anything that is a meter.

https://www.sparkfun.com/news/1428 (https://www.sparkfun.com/news/1428)
Title: Re: Will this device has problems with Fluke?
Post by: james_s on December 23, 2019, 07:55:37 pm
It's crap like that (along with some questionable design decisions) that reinforce my decision to never buy another Fluke product. I've been a big fan of their products for many years but I cannot support this kind of bullying.
Title: Re: Will this device has problems with Fluke?
Post by: coromonadalix on December 25, 2019, 02:38:33 am
I recall this sad story :(
Title: Re: Will this device has problems with Fluke?
Post by: OwO on December 25, 2019, 07:11:03 am
I wouldn't put all the blame on Fluke though. The way trademark law works means you could lose a trademark if you don't actively enforce it, and Fluke's legal department is just doing what they have to do to protect their trademark. The problem is the fact that trademarks (and copyright) can be interpreted to such a broad extent in the US (most known example is mickey mouse copyright that covers anything with one large circle and two smaller circles). Most other parts of the world have far narrower definitions of what can be trademarked, for example China has a strong "generics" doctrine which led to companies denied registration of their own trademark that is well known in other countries, simply because the market was already flooded with bootlegs and the name was seen as "genericized".
Title: Re: Will this device has problems with Fluke?
Post by: james_s on December 25, 2019, 08:39:15 pm
Not all the blame, but enough of the blame to not want to give them any more of my money. It's as much about design decisions as anything else though, frankly other manufactures have improved and Fluke has done some really weird stuff like making the 87V default to AC current measurement.