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Offline nixie84

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DipTrace 4.0 Beta is out
« on: February 24, 2020, 01:20:22 pm »
DipTrace 4.0 Beta Freeware is out.

https://diptrace.com/download/download-diptrace/
https://diptrace.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=13255


The list of new features:
1. IPC-7351 standard pattern type:
- pattern is generated automatically by IPC-7351 generator integrated into Pattern Editor
- 3D model is generated on the fly in Pattern Editor and PCB Layout
2. New IPC-7351 libraries.
3. UI has been optimized for 4k monitors.
4. RoundRect and D-shape pads.
5. Pad shape can be shifted from pad hole center.
6. Rotating pads to any angle without changing to polygon.
7. Rotating component to any angle without changing it.
8. Pad terminals.
9. Segmented paste mask, solder mask by paste mask.
10. Solder mask and paste mask of pads are visible in the design area and can be printed.
11. Fiducial object in PCB and pattern editor.
12. Pattern Editor has a layer panel similar to PCB layout.
13. Both Pattern Editor and PCB Layout layer panels have configurable layer order and visibility.
14. Courtyard layer, DRC does not allow courtyard region to be overlayed (touch is allowed).
15. Component outline layer (3D model can be built by component outline).
16. Configurable Silk to Pad clearance in DRC.
17. Remove silk from pads/holes/mask wizard in Pattern Editor.
18. Place outline wizard in Pattern Editor.
19. Similar pad numbers are allowed (in this case pads are connected together inside pattern, @ symbol before or after number allows to avoid warning).
20. Two types of internal component connections are possible:
- one of pads should be connected or internal connection can be used as jumper for the net.
- all pads should be connected.
21. 3 ways to build and edit arcs (3 points, center-radius-angles, start-end-radius).
22. Any set of shapes can be converted to board outline (you can place arcs, lines, poly-lines as you wish, connect their ends and convert all to board outline).
23. Updated properties dialogs for all shapes (now can be edited by dimensions).
24. Obround shapes instead of ellipses in all programs.
25. Snap to other objects key points when building/editing shapes, board and copper pour.
26. Multi-line text.
27. Text and pictures can be rotated to any angle.
28. Pictures are now vectorized and saved together with a design file.
29. It is possible to cut text or picture/logo at the copper pour.
30. Anchor point + Left-Center-Right, Top-Center-Bottom alignment is used for text, markings, pictures and while editing shapes.
31. Cut right corner of the shapes option.
32. New Component marking system in Schematic and PCB Layout:
- any number of markings can be displayed (display property is available for each field, including additional).
- free angle and alignment
- separate marking settings for assembly layer in PCB
- custom marking font by the component
- text with parameter property placed in pattern/component editor is counted as pattern marking (PCB/Schematic do not add additional text).
- font settings can be applied to markings placed in Component/Pattern Editor
- move tool (F10) allows to move/rotate any text object inside component directly in Schematic/PCB.
33. Pattern origin is shown as cross + circle (options) and can be displayed by layers.
34. 3 ways of building 3D model of the pattern (by file, by component outline and by IPC-7351 standard).
35. Filter can be stopped on any search stage, results are displayed in real-time while searching components.
36. Component properties dialog is redesigned to allow display and edit all additional fields at once.
37. Name description, unique name and manufacturer fields have been added to the pattern.
38. Free resizing of all library/component list and additional fields in Component/Pattern Editors.
39. Pattern shape precision has been improved, recounting pattern shapes by borders when you change the number of pads/dimensions in Pattern Editor.
40. Pad to copper pour thermals are rotated to pad/component angle.
41. Selecting object and opening its sub-menu from design manager in Schematic and PCB (right click on the item in design manager).
42. Groups in Component and Pattern Editors, similar to Schematic and PCB.
43. Measure tool in Schematic and Component Editor.
44. Properties dialog windows may change locked objects after confirmation.
45. Updating PCB from Schematic keeps locked components, non-existent in Schematic.
46. Export all Gerber and Drill files into zip archive with a single click.
 
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Re: DipTrace 4.0 Beta is out
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2020, 04:28:49 pm »
nice. I think #20 might resolve one of my aggravations! Like a fuse that needs 2 pads on each end but are really internally connected... having 4 pads and being forced to connect them was a pain in the ass. sounds like this might allow me to internally connect them and have 1 pad at each end.

#46 will also be handy! :)
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Re: DipTrace 4.0 Beta is out
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2020, 02:58:58 pm »
I just noticed there is a newer build  March 5: https://diptrace.com/download/download-diptrace/
 

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Re: DipTrace 4.0 Beta is out
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2020, 06:23:18 pm »
 :scared: Super excited, I'll almost definitely buy the upgrade as I absolutely love dip trace as a cheap alternative to Altium. I hope to see it grow in popularity as it continues to improve.
 

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Re: DipTrace 4.0 Beta is out
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2020, 06:34:56 pm »
Alternative to altium? Alternative to any other eCAD ?
 

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Re: DipTrace 4.0 Beta is out
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2020, 09:22:47 am »
I've been using Diptrace for 10 years now and own a full, unlimited license. This release seems to address most of the things on my wish list for improvements.

What I like most about Diptrace is its stability - i.e. it (almost) never crashes.
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Re: DipTrace 4.0 Beta is out
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2020, 01:25:03 pm »
+1 for Diptrace

I have been using Diptrace for more than 5 years.  Starting with version 2.4
I mostly make small PCBs for my HO model railroad with the "For Non-Profit" license.
Also, creating components and footprints is very easy and quick to do.

I have also used Diptrace to create 3D Models via export STEP. 
Great for placing daughter boards on your PCB.

Tried various versions of Eagle (prior to AutoDesk takeover) and KiCad.  Hated both.
 

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Re: DipTrace 4.0 Beta is out
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2020, 03:53:59 pm »
182 Mb vs 1.1 Gb   :wtf:
Why Win vs Mac so much difference?


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MacOS 10.15 Catalina is supported, first start - up to 5 minutes.

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Re: DipTrace 4.0 Beta is out
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2020, 09:26:33 pm »
182 Mb vs 1.1 Gb   :wtf:
Why Win vs Mac so much difference?


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MacOS 10.15 Catalina is supported, first start - up to 5 minutes.

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Possibly they used a translation layer to run on macOS, and that layer is included with the installer? Possibly it uses WINE?
 

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Re: DipTrace 4.0 Beta is out
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2020, 01:47:04 am »
There is now a later beta release - May 13th 2020

https://diptrace.com/download/download-diptrace/

There were so many bugs with the earlier beta release (as so many more features have been added) that I've remained using the official release from last year - ver 3.3.1.3 which has been excellent.

Many of the new features added are implementing Altium type features ............... so every year DipTrace creates a bit more competition in this space.
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Re: DipTrace 4.0 Beta is out
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2020, 07:22:05 am »
Yep, I remain on 3.3.x.x too.

On their forum I see they are about to release 4.0. I hope it won't take much time, although not sure if I upgrade immediately -- 4.0 is not backward compatible with 3.3. If things go wrong I won't be able to open my designs with earlier versions.
 

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Re: DipTrace 4.0 Beta is out
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2020, 09:52:46 am »
I too am sticking with 3.3.x.x  especially after I read in the Diptrace forums that some people had seen the 4.0 install mess with some of the settings in their 3.3.x.x edition.

I'm sure they will fix 4.0 soon and I like the feature set, especially 4k monitor optimization and the visibility of the solder mask and paste layers in the pattern editor, but I'm not going to jump in until a few people have installed it and confirmed it's stable.
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Re: DipTrace 4.0 Beta is out
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2020, 11:38:15 am »
Yeah, I tried beta already a couple of month ago, and reverted back. Unfortunately, I don't remember what went in the way.
 

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Re: DipTrace 4.0 Beta is out
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2020, 05:46:37 am »
182 Mb vs 1.1 Gb   :wtf:
Why Win vs Mac so much difference?


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MacOS 10.15 Catalina is supported, first start - up to 5 minutes.

 :o

Possibly they used a translation layer to run on macOS, and that layer is included with the installer? Possibly it uses WINE?

Also the 3d library is installed along, while it's a separate download in windows
or at least it used to be
 

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Re: DipTrace 4.0 Beta is out
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2020, 01:05:49 am »
The above Beta has now moved to a stable release overnight.

Latest stable build: 4.0.0.0 (May 20, 2020)

https://diptrace.com/download/download-diptrace/
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Re: DipTrace 4.0 Beta is out
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2020, 06:55:23 am »
We're on 4.0.0.2 now. May 28th.

https://diptrace.com/download/download-diptrace/
 

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Re: DipTrace 4.0 Beta is out
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2020, 11:23:24 am »
You can blame me.

  - "Export All" gerber to ZIP file.  Is now a flat ZIP (no sub-directories) and the drills are merged into a single file.

  - Save as PNG image added to Schematic Editor's "Print Preview".  BMP, JPG and PNG formats now available.

  - (Comming soon) Inconsistent wire width drawing in Schematic Editor in OpenGL and DirectX modes fixed.

Refer to Diptrace forum:
   https://diptrace.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=13394
 

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Re: DipTrace 4.0 Beta is out
« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2020, 09:28:40 pm »
I tried the trial version of diptrace (schematic only), looks to be stable. So, I decided to give it a try, and I upgraded my license.

Not all changes I like (actually, I hardly notice any). Problems I see so far (probably some of them were in prev version too):
1. The component menu is refactored, and in my opinion it contains too many items. I wish they had a tree-like structure so there are no four entries for each element (such as "resistors axial", "resistors chip inch", "resistors chip metric", "resistors networks"). 2. Now many smd footprints have three options: with suffixes L, M, and N. Again, looks like waste of precious space and trippling the amount of items in the list
3. And the search is still slow as hell.
4. The opamp symbol for ad8674 is ridiculous. It's a single element for all four amplifier, no subparts. Please tell me I'm doing something wrong. Am I missing a way to split it into four part or re-arrange pins? The way it is doesn't make sense to me (see pic).

So far about my annoyance. No crashes, all is smooth (as smooth as it can be under WINE on Linux).
 

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Re: DipTrace 4.0 Beta is out
« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2020, 07:32:27 pm »
1. The component menu is refactored, and in my opinion it contains too many items.

I don't think so. When a part of software is refactored, the user does not see that. And if the behavior is changed, it is not refactoring.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_refactoring

 


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