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$500 Audiofool SATA SSD Cable
« on: February 22, 2023, 01:44:23 am »
How many idiots will buy this $500 Audiophile SATA SSD Cable?

Audiofoolery  is almost as big a scam as religion.
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Re: $500 Audiofool SATA SSD Cable (ebay audiofool scammer audiophile.rocks)
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2023, 03:00:18 am »

If they made every cable like that there may not be enough space in the case.


I have a few transparent sata cables that looks just like that on the ends.

That must be easy to make and assemble.
Just pick any sata cable and push it through that piece of cloth like thing.
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Re: $500 Audiofool SATA SSD Cable
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2023, 03:12:11 am »
More audiofool junk.  :palm: Except most of it is made to at least look expensive (even though there is no evidence it does squat).

This thing ... it looks like a piece of crap, so it fits the part associated with the toilet water line. Wow, I keep thinking why don't I get in on the gravy train if it's this easy.
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/295484459418
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Supernova Hyperspace Clear Power 4m EU Schuko (European plugs, best ever sold!)


Condition:Used
“3 years old, but has been left unused for the past year. Therefore you need to burn  :bullshit: it in again.”
Price: US $2,000.00

Brand: Audiophile Rocks Their OWN brand cable
Type:Power Cable
Features:   Powered   
Cable Length:   4m

Item description from the seller
Specifications
Crystal Formula: Supernova (2019)  :bullshit:
Wiring: 70 microns extruded pure silver surface 7N OFC surface, 16awg solid core
Insulation material: FEP with threads around conductors (air dielectric)
Speed: 91% the speed of light
Connectors: Genuine Furutech FI-11 (R). European Schuko plug
Tube ending seal: White wood + Black Quartz Crystals
Sleeving: No
Grounding: No
Shielding: No
Thickness of outer tubing: 16mm
Length: 400cm
Release date: Year 2019


Looks to me like it had some use and abuse.

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Subjective impressions
Compared to the standard Supernova power cables, this EU version has a more liquid smooth and natural sound with greater soundstage size that expands in all directions.  :bullshit: * It will take you into a state of trance where you just melt away into the music.

What a scammer... just buy some ordinary cables and put some stuff around it and some fancy plugs.

* I am sure I can create the same effect on someone by blasting their ears with loud noises where they become deaf.

Just found this:
https://web.archive.org/web/20201023095309/https://www.ebay.com/usr/audiophile.rocks

https://www.facebook.com/audiophilerocks

Different product name but same thing.

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We release the laid-back Megaras Termino which is equal in performance to the forward sounding Lightspeed.
Although the detail reproduction isn't as extreme as Lightspeed, the bass performance is better where the Megaras gives bigger and stronger bass in a blacker and warmer background. It gives more of a cozy feel where you can sit back and relax to the music.
The price for Megaras Termino is $299 per piece.
E-mail us to order: info@audiophile.rocks

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Re: $500 Audiofool SATA SSD Cable (ebay audiofool scammer audiophile.rocks)
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2023, 04:56:36 am »
https://gigglehd-com.translate.goog/gg/hard/13798377?_x_tr_sl=ko&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc
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Giggles 2023.02.23 02:21 SATA cables for audio for $500

There is something called Superstar SATA 25mm 0.5m Gray Carbon Hi-Fi Cable sold on eBay.

As the title suggests, the specs are nothing special, but the cables are reinforced with expensive metal, wood, and quartz materials. It's called 'Superstar Crystal Formula'. At the end of the cable, we added a wooden stopper with a black crystal coating for added strength.

I'm reflecting on the hard sarcasm I've had looking at audio cables or products for golden ears. Didn't they at least try to make it look convincing?

However, this is an ordinary cable with an unidentified black sea cucumber inserted, and the price has been raised 1000 times.
 
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Re: $500 Audiofool SATA SSD Cable (ebay audiofool scammer audiophile.rocks)
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2023, 06:43:18 am »

If they made every cable like that there may not be enough space in the case.


I have a few transparent sata cables that looks just like that on the ends.

That must be easy to make and assemble.
Just pick any sata cable and push it through that piece of cloth like thing.

are those marshmallows with sprinkles?
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Re: $500 Audiofool SATA SSD Cable
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2023, 06:46:00 am »
The crap that people buy into  :palm:

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Re: $500 Audiofool SATA SSD Cable (ebay audiofool scammer audiophile.rocks)
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2023, 09:25:33 pm »
are those marshmallows with sprinkles?

Yes. They burned them in during roasting on a story telling camp fire trip that they are selling with the auction.

Apparently the seller suggests that despite the above it needs to be burned in again on another story telling camp fire trip after you buy them in order to sell to the next audiofool.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/295484459432
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* Superstar SUPERSUCKER'S SATA 25mm 0.5m grey carbon (LAST  :bullshit: and best computer Hi-Fi cable)
Used “4 years old, but has been left unused for the past year. Therefore you need to burn :bullshit: it in again.”

Brand: Audiofool's Rocks CROCK ery
Type: sata
Cable Length: 50 cm

The Our best SATA cable we have built threaded, and also our last one! 0.5m long with off the shelf SATA 3.0 connectors. Internally it has our classic Superstar SUPERSUCKERS Crystal black sea cucumber inserted over it which is optimized for source components SUCKERS, so it's perfect for their computer. The ends are built from wood marshmallows and black quartz crystals sprinkles for extra strength audiofool viewing. The tubing black sea cucumber is 25mm thick and contains twice the sprinkles over the 20mm version.

Simply plug it into a SATA port of the motherboard. The other end doesn't need to be connected, but if you connect it to your harddrive you will get double the effect it will take up double the space. 

To know how the performance compares against our past other cable names, see the ranking SUCKERS list below.

***** ranking SUCKERS LIST of Crystal Formula (Latest selling name on top)*****
Supernova and Superstar <- <- <-  SUPERSUCKER
Superspeed
Abyss
Nebula
H2U2
Alien Super
Unreal
Alien 2 Ultra
Dolphin Ultra (Megalodon)
Predator
Dolphin Natural
Ice King
Alien 2 Natural
Alien Ultra
Ascension
VibraPortal 3D (Pandora)
Desert
Transporter
Forest
White Haven
VibraPortal 2D (Waves)
Paradise Ultra
GroundHanger
Alien Natural
Paradise Natural
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Re: $500 Audiofool SATA SSD Cable
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2023, 09:55:42 pm »
The article states: "Without a review sample, we can’t completely dismiss all of the product listing claims regarding this cable’s Hi-Fi qualities."

Is the author trying to be funny or did he seriously mean that he couldn't honestly call the product complete and utter bullshit without seeing it first?
 
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Re: $500 Audiofool SATA SSD Cable
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2023, 10:12:37 pm »
Is the author trying to be funny

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Inside the woven toilet connector cable there are some further ingredients which are described as “our classic Superstar Crystal Formula,” and are apparently optimized for computer component

I thought that was some sort of cloth like plastic braid but when looking again at the article what I thought what sounded like a joke and now on looking up closely I see it is a flexible metal toilet hose connector.
 

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Re: $500 Audiofool SATA SSD Cable
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2023, 11:08:30 pm »
I thought that was some sort of cloth like plastic braid but when looking again at the article what I thought what sounded like a joke and now on looking up closely I see it is a flexible metal toilet hose connector.

You know why you sound better singing in the shower? No its nothing to do with room acoustics, its actually due to the woven hose connector on your toilet.
Hence the brilliant idea to use it here.
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Re: $500 Audiofool SATA SSD Cable
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2023, 11:24:24 pm »
I thought that was some sort of cloth like plastic braid but when looking again at the article what I thought what sounded like a joke and now on looking up closely I see it is a flexible metal toilet hose connector.

It's way too big to be a toilet line, it looks like the 3/4" braided flex hoses I have connecting my water heater.
 

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I last saw those hoses selling £15 pound a piece.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/295484455672
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Deepsbays Rock Galaxy #4 (Audiophile Rocks Hi-Fi tweak)

Price: US $239.00
Compatible Brand: Universal
Brand: Audiophile Rocks
Type: Tweak
Country/Region of Manufacture: Sweden

These rare specimens of Galaxy Rocks are all unique with their own shape and look, but sound equally good. This is the #4 model of the Deepsbays Rock Galaxy. It's sold for 20% cheaper because I have been using it in my own audio system.

Internally they have Deepsbays Crystal Formula which consists of our best Alien crystals that are modified with proprietary liquids and ultrasonic frequencies to activate the deep cleaning properties of the Alien crystals. This Crystal Formula is surrounded by Pro clay that has 10 times lower mass than other clays, while being stronger. This minimizes colorations from the music and enables you to hear maximum detail. You can hear sounds you never knew existed. Are you ready to enter deep into the unknown?

40 tweaks + Deepsbays Rock Galaxy, result after adding another tweak
Compared to , Galaxy sounds more transparent and detailed. It sounds much cleaner and you can hear deeper into the music with more information in complex passages. There is better musicality and enjoyment.

Compared to , Galaxy sounds cleaner and deeper with a bigger soundstage and a more mysterious sound with smooth darkness. It doesn't sound as forward and "in your face" as the Pro Ortus. Everything is further away, Galaxy sounds more laid-back and relaxing. They are equally good overall, Pro Ortus is best for recording studios while Galaxy is best for home listening.

Compared to , Galaxy sounds quicker and more lively with better musicality. It sounds more analog with more detail everywhere in the soundstage.

Compared to , Galaxy sounds better than 7 pieces, but not as good as 8 pieces of Supernova VibraDome.

** Deepsbays Crystal Formula (20 grams inside)
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Release date: January 1 2022

Simply place the rock anywhere on top of your audio system. Its entire weight must rest on top of the audio system, because the rock needs gravity to work. To know how the performance compares against our other tweaks, see the ranking list below for our Crystal Formulas. The sound improves further if the tweak is bigger and contains Pro clay.
Our products are also ranked based on price, the more it costs the better it is.
I wonder did he paint those rocks?
* Yes he did and varnished them too.

If they are rare and precious why does he feel the need to paint over the rare and precious appearance?

** So he is making this rare, precious stuff that will soon be gone and no longer available on planet earth until he materializes more from his clay making, painting and varnishing with maybe few crystal flakes or holes in them.

Check out his video on them or the transcript:

40 tweaks + Deepsbays Rock Galaxy, result after adding another tweak
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0:00 let's say
let's say you have a perfect audio system already it is not fun
you want to start from nothing and just enjoy the journey of constantly
improving your audio system you get a new tweak once a week
or once a month and you get to the next level that's
really enjoyable you get those ear orgasms you improve your system
a little at a time every month or a week to improve your system again and
then it's really enjoyable to to listen to music to hear the new
new levels of detail that you couldn't hear before oh yeah [Laughter]
deep space rock galaxy is my latest addition to my system let's turn on
the lights here deep space i got the amazing listening experiment experience
oh so uh in the previous time i added the light speed rack i got some extra detail
into the music this time i added the deep space rock galaxy and here are the
here are the results okay so i got this smoother sound deeper sound bigger sound stage
the bass was deeper and bigger and faster and i got a really relaxing listening
experience from the deep space rock galaxy so this tweak further improves the
sound even when i already have so many tweaks in my system and it kept the
the new details of the light speed rack while increasing the smoothness
and sound stage making the background blacker and deeper
with the better bass the bass was deeper bigger faster more textured :bullshit:

2:20 more resolution everything improved in the music so just from adding a tweak
that  is not as good as the tweak you added before you still improve the sound
even from the cheaper tweaks so this very very very good advice for you if
you want to buy a cheaper tweak first and later upgrade you still get better
sound from the cheaper tweak in your system you don't need to remove it from
your system you can keep it in your system and even even if you buy a light speed
rack you can buy a cheaper tweak after and still get better sound from adding this
tweak into your system but you get the big biggest improvement from the light speed rack

3:08 the more the more money the tweak costs the better the performance and the better
the value for the money so the more you pay the better but if you can't pay a lot of money you buy
the cheaper tweaks so they still improve the sound greatly and i got a really
very uh addicting listening experience i just want to keep listening to music and deep space
is the third best crystal formula ever made number one is the light speed then comes
the magus guru and here's the magus kurum wizard a very magical listening experience from
the magus guru and this one has a very deep sound :bullshit:

4:46 with great bass because it is bigger it is it is bigger in size than the light
speed and the magus guru so it will give more bass uh compared to these ones so
these ones improve other aspects in the sound but the deep space improves bass
more than those tweaks but this this light speed rack will improve detail
more than any other tweak ever ever made but because this is bigger the deep
space right galaxy is bigger it will improve bass more only because of that
reason it is bigger so what about the name deep space
it comes from abyss it is a deeper version of the abyss
crystal formula and it has small speed if you read backwards speed

5:01 and it is deep there's more bass and b-a-s-s more bass and yeah abby's
so you can re rearrange the letters to get the different words in this name
so this is why i picked this name deeps and bass and especially because it has
a deeper bass than the other crystal formulas that were made before the deep
space and after the deep space there was further evolution in the crystal formula
with the magoskurum and the light speed here so the deep space was really the
beginning of creating a better crystal formula with the mago squirm and the light speed
and the microscorum is the simplified version of the light speed light speed has the silver
inside and  all the other formulas don't have any silver in those formulas so
they are not as good light speed is much quicker and clearer more detailed
and more transparent than all the other crystal formulas but it's more expensive

6:25 but much better also better value for the money and the deep pay
this space is cheaper this one costs 299 dollars only and the live speed rack costs 879
so if you can't afford the light speed rock you get the deep space right galaxy
almost three times cheaper and you still get the really amazing listening experience
from the deep space rock galaxy really incredible what kind of sound you get
and even the cheaper tweaks that you add into your system you
get the great experience from them you don't need to pay a lot
of money for the live speed rock to get a great experience you can get
get the great experience from the cheaper tweaks also even when adding
them after the light speed rock so you can add any kind of tweaks after
as long as they have the pro clay and you get the better improvement in
the sound you get a huge improvement in the sound you get more eargasms and

7:35 enjoyment from the system with all of these tweaks with the pro
clay so look at ebay if you if the tweak has the pro play
and the only uh tweak that that is still good
which uh doesn't have the pro clay it is this one the
abysskirum ultima the ultimate tweaks are still great uh tweaks
even when they don't have the pro clay so the ultimate tweaks are really
great tweaks because just because they are bigger and you get more bass with
the bigger tweaks more bass more fullness more resolution
from the bigger tweaks but the smaller tweaks are just perfect for
speed and detail and transparency and openness especially the orca tweaks
will give an open sound like the orca glacier i don't have it here not
right right now i have it in my storage room i'm using the prototypes myself
for the orca glacier

8:41 so these are really nice sounding tweaks very open and smooth natural
realistic a big sound stage also a cooler sound from the orca glacier
but the deep space rock galaxy has a blacker sound a blacker background more
mysterious sound and deeper sound that you can travel deep into the music and
enjoy music like never before you get a very smooth silk smooth sound and relaxing
and you hear more separation also and while being well being silky smooth so the transients
in the music are quicker more separated and silky smooth :bullshit:

9:27so everything improves with the deep space rack galaxy if you want to go to  ebay
click the link below click the link bel space rock galaxy and you can find many different shapes to
choose from and all of them sound the same only the shape is different they are identical inside
the same crystal formula and the same amount of crystal formula is inside the tweak so you could
go to ebay you want to buy this right now and get the great musical experience so that you can
just sit sit back and relax and listen  to the music that's a great tweak for that and if you want to
if you want the most detail possible get the light speed rock for the most detail possible

10:16okay so yeah this is the end of the video until next time rack your audio system

goodbye
[Music]
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Re: $500 Audiofool SATA SSD Cable
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2023, 10:03:14 am »
I could imagine a kindergarden increasing their budget by having the kids creating "audiophoolish" stuff from whatever is found in the creative projects drawers and boxes - add some glue and glitter - done.

That could add up to a nice million or two extra cash, certainly enough for some nice summer camp on some remote tropical island :)
 
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Re: $500 Audiofool SATA SSD Cable
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2023, 03:17:09 am »
Not so sure how I feel with having metal just flapping around in the breeze inside my PC case either. Seems like a good way to short things out.

add some glue and glitter - done.

 

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Re: $500 Audiofool SATA SSD Cable
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2023, 04:02:03 am »
Do people actually buy this junk? Can a dishonest sociopath actually make a living selling sprinkles and globs of crud to gullible fools?
 

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« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2023, 04:11:53 am »
Do people actually buy this junk? Can a dishonest sociopath actually make a living selling sprinkles and globs of crud to gullible fools?

Yes and yes.
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« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2023, 04:16:18 am »
Sometimes I wish I was a terrible person. Thankfully, I don't give in to the temptation.
 

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Re: $500 Audiofool SATA SSD Cable
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2023, 04:50:20 am »
It's interesting to see how some stores in Australia seem to skirt around Australian Consumer Law by not making any definitive claims about performance or specifications. If they claimed to make your audio sound better, they'd be in trouble.

Take this for example: https://australiahifi.com.au/collections/power-cables/products/nordost-tyr-2-power-cable

It's just a bunch of word salad without actually meaning anything. They can't really be done for deceptive conduct because they aren't making any promises or claims about the product's performance.

If you want to buy a cable that is "mechanically tuned" (i.e.: cut to length with wire cutters), then feel free to pay the $5.5k per metre for this bullshit.
 
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Re: Nordost Tyr 2 Power Cable Norse Series bullshit
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2023, 07:24:11 am »

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Nordost Tyr 2 Power Cable Norse Series
1m - $5,459.00
2m - $6,629.00
3m - $7,799.00
4m - $8,959.00
5m - $10,129.00
6m - $11,289.00
7m - $12,459.00

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Nordost Tyr 2 Power Cable Norse Series
Nordost’s new Tyr 2 Power Cord benefits from the extensive research :bullshit: made in creating Valhalla 2, therefore extending our celebrated Norse 2 cable range into the realm :bullshit: of our Reference line. By employing Nordost’s proprietary :bullshit: Dual Mono-Filament technology, which is also found in Valhalla 2 :bullshit: , the Tyr 2 Power Cord is able to achieve the most effective insulation method in the industry, :bullshit: putting this cable a step above its Norse brothers and bounds ahead of the competition. :bullshit: This cable consists of 7 silver plated, solid core 16 AWG OFC conductors, which eliminate strand interaction, hot spots and carbonization to ensure optimum performance. The use of these conductors also allows complete material consistency with Norse 2 interconnects and speaker cables.

Like the Heimdall 2 and Frey 2 Power Cords, the Tyr 2 Power Cord uses extruded FEP insulation, which is superior :bullshit: to all other materials in terms of low signal loss and high thermal efficiency. The use of FEP in a Dual Mono-Filament construction guarantees that power is transferred more effectively, while the low resistance of the cable keeps power loss extremely low.

Finally, the Tyr 2 Power Cord implements mechanically tuned lengths :bullshit:. This technique, used in Nordost’s Norse 2, Reference, and Supreme Reference ranges, reduces internal microphony and high-frequency impedance resonance :bullshit:. The benefits can be heard at both ends of the scale– in the sheer impact that comes with real instrumental presence and explosive dynamics, and the color, texture and intimacy that brings a voice or solo instrument to life. :bullshit: The result is the most musically coherent :bullshit: and involving performance you’ll ever have heard from your system and recordings

Buzzword bullshit: the realm, proprietary, Dual Mono-Filament technology, technology, strand interaction, hot spots, carbonization, optimum performance, material consistency, FEP, extruded FEP insulation, Dual Mono-Filament construction, mechanically tuned lengths, Supreme Reference ranges, reduces internal microphony, high-frequency impedance resonance, explosive dynamics, color, texture, intimacy, musically coherent, involving performance

Bullshit opinions/phantom claims: benefits from the extensive research, a step above its Norse brothers and bounds ahead of the competition, guarantees that power is transferred more effectively, allows complete material consistency, benefits can be heard at both ends of the scale, sheer impact, real instrumental presence, brings a voice or solo instrument to life, performance you’ll ever have heard from your system and recordings.
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Re: $500 Audiofool SATA SSD Cable
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2023, 12:05:37 pm »
Right - the power cord bullshit. From the wall socket to the amp or tuner or whatever - a few feet will do the majik. Except ... Hmmm ... how may feet of plain old simple AC wiring is in the walls and the buillding and outside coming to your wall socket. But yet that majik last few feet where you use that cable will make any difference.

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« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2023, 01:33:52 pm »
Except ... Hmmm ... how may feet of plain old simple AC wiring is in the walls and the buillding and outside coming to your wall socket.

Sounds like a missed business opportunity. >:D
 

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« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2023, 05:22:20 pm »
Except ... Hmmm ... how may feet of plain old simple AC wiring is in the walls and the buillding and outside coming to your wall socket.

Sounds like a missed business opportunity. >:D

Speaking of the audiofool business, I wondered if ChatGPT could help in the descriptions. So I tried it ...


Me: I would like two paragraphs that describe a power cord product for audiophiles. That is, people who spend a lot of money on stereo system products. I will give you the phrases to use in the description. You can use any descriptive language to embellish this product. Do you understand so far?

ChatGPT: Yes, I understand. Please provide the phrases you would like me to use in the description of the power cord product for audiophiles.

Me: Some of the phrases I want you to use are: sonic beads, tuned lead spacing, deepened sound stage, vacuum sealed jacket, crystal field focusing, Chilean mined copper.

ChatGPT: Introducing the ultimate power cord product designed for audiophiles who demand nothing but the best in sound quality. Our power cord boasts a series of innovative features that are guaranteed to elevate your listening experience to new heights. With its superior construction and advanced technology, this power cord is a must-have for anyone who takes their audio seriously.

Crafted from the finest Chilean mined copper, this power cord delivers unmatched conductivity and reliability. The sonic beads within the cord work to minimize interference and eliminate noise, resulting in a clear and pristine sound. Additionally, the vacuum-sealed jacket ensures optimal insulation and protection, while the crystal field focusing technology helps to maintain a steady flow of power. The tuned lead spacing and deepened sound stage provide a dynamic range that is simply unparalleled. With this power cord, you'll hear every note and every detail in your music like never before.

Me: Perfect!

ChatGPT: I'm glad to hear that! If you have any other questions or requests, feel free to let me know.


Oh that was too easy.  :-DD

I gotta try even more meaningless phrases next.
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Audiofoolery industry shunning/suppressing honest reviewers through lawyers
« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2023, 05:30:00 pm »
Sounds like a missed business opportunity. >:D
Looks like there is no missed business opportunities for these audifool companies when they are backed by fools buying their products, lawyers controlling media such as their magazines and even reviews.

Just found this: about Nordost caught red handed and uses the lawyers to suppress/silence a review:
At a recent Axpona event Nordost was caught red handed doctoring a power cable listening session.
It turned out a cd was used with the same music on different tracks at different loudness levels and for each power cable demonstrated the track was used with a slightly higher spl levels that corresponded with the price level of each power cable.

Nordost reacted by threatening with legal actions and the blog was removed from the web page.

http://www.realhd-audio.com/?cat=45

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Nordost and AXPONA Demo QuestionsAUDIO SHOWSDr. AIX's POSTS— 21 April 2016
By Mark Waldrep
[NOTE] This post has been removed following my receipt of a “CEASE AND DESIST LETTER” from Rodney E. Gould of the law firm of Rubin, Hay & Gould, P.C. in Framingham, MA, which represents the Nordost Corporation of Holliston, MA.

THE PARAGRAPH PREVIOUSLY POSTED HERE WAS REMOVED AT 9:41 APRIL 30, 2016.
I wonder how they are still in business today.
They must be convincing for the audiofools.`
Enough audiofools and backers and can afford top lawyers.

So they are caught meddling and lying and have lawyers to enforce it.

Absolutely disgusting:
https://web.archive.org/web/20160427232128/http://www.realhd-audio.com/?p=5659
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Nordost Demo Mysteries…Solved! Part IIAUDIO SHOWSDr. AIX's POSTS— 22 April 2016
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This post is a continuation from yesterday. You can read the first part by clicking here.

Then I sat through the power cord swap out demo. I sat in the front row of their demo room. The presenter swapped out the power cord to the disc player…and only the disc player. He started with a simple IEC power cord, which probably cost about $1.50. He played about 30-45 seconds of a track from the CD. He stopped the player and turned off the power to the unit. He connected a $200 power cord from the Nordost product line. He powered up the CD player, stood in front of the player, and played the same piece of music once again. The sound coming from the speakers was noticeably louder…by about 1-2 dB. The Nordost guy stood to the side and expressed his satisfaction that the change was immediately obvious and repeatable. The volume setting on the front of the amplifier was the same in each case (unlike the change reported by Patrick…I think the presenter knew me and wasn’t going to risk moving the volume knob). This was proof positive that a “better” power cord results in “better” sound.

Nordost doesn’t build its power cords to meet certain price points. He explained that the company delineates their products by performance levels. He passed around the transparent power cords so that attendees could see the construction of the cables, the careful windings, the wires that keep the insulation from touching the power leads, and the heft of the $6000 Valhalla 2 cable (don’t you ever wonder about the AC cabling that is inside the walls? Wouldn’t that limit the sound?). The demo continued with successively more expensive cords connecting the CD player to the power strip. And each time the music amplitude associated with the more expensive cable was higher. It was not subtle, however the volume on the preamplifier remained the same (unlike the experience reported by Patrick above). The presenter stated that the expensive power cord “acts like a power conditioner” in removing the artifacts and sonic degradation coming from the wall. Was he saying you don’t need a power conditioner…just a $6000 6-foot power cord?

It was like a magician’s trick. Somehow the presenter was making a change to the system without turning up the volume. There was more output coming from the speakers after the swap. At first I couldn’t figure it out…until Patrick commented on his experience during an earlier demo. The volume on the amplifier didn’t change but the track played on the CD was never repeated more than once. I found that curious. The Nordost presenter would play some music and then swap the cable and replay the same piece of music. But instead of swapping out a new power cord and playing the same track for the third time, he always migrated to another track. This truck me as strange. Why wouldn’t he simply repeat the track a third or fourth time? At one point in the process, he turned to me as he was selecting the track number on the CD player and said, “I’m not sure which track number I played last?”
The disc that he was playing was not a commercial replicated CD. It was custom made for their demo. I believe the disc contained two copies of each track. One that was mastered slightly louder than the other. How else could I account for the difference in volume AND the fact that he didn’t go back and play the same track a third time. There were only two copies of each tune on the disc…not three or four.

I think that explains the increased volume that the audience experienced throughout the demo. The presenter played the same music from a different track…one that was 1-2 dB louder. It wouldn’t be hard to pull this off. In fact, as a former mastering engineer, I could create a custom CD-R that would retain the same track number so no one would be the wiser. I regret not recording the whole session or keeping track of the track number being played. I thought about it before heading upstairs but my wife was using my iPhone to run credit cards at our sales table.

Like the AudioQuest/Home Entertainment YouTube video earlier in the year, the Nordost demo was simply not believable. Small isolation cones and expensive power cords do not cause an audio system to get louder…if they do anything at all. The companies behind these audiophile products don’t even make that claim. There’s nothing more compelling or noticeable during an audio demo than comparing two music tracks with one louder than the other. If a power cord resulted in an increase in the volume of the output signal then using a Valhalla 2 power cord to connect a lamp to a wall socket would cause it to glow more brightly…and that doesn’t happen!

As I wrote this article, I went online and read a number of very positive reviews about Nordost cables…including a number that praised the Valhalla 2 power cords. One of them contained this sentence, “The results were stunning. Even with competing systems in adjacent rooms rattling the walls, it was easy to hear the much lower noise floor and improved soundstaging, texture and decay. Cash’s ragged voice sounded like he’d leaned an inch closer to the microphone, as well as pulled off the foam sock.” When a singer gets an inch closer to the microphone, the output amplitude of the microphone goes up. The reviewer was reporting an increase in volume and thinking the cable was the cause…it wasn’t. There are slick published “Guides to High-End Cables” full of glowing reviews and glossy photos of cables. Reading them will cause your head to spin…complete BS.

Cable vendors and the press that uniformly support them with ridiculous “reviews”, are not being truthful about the relative merits of their products. Overpriced cables…analog and digital…are not worth the money. It’s really that simple.

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It looks like Nordost wanted it to remain a mystery... maybe it is their business model.

But trying to control opinions and silence reviews because they can through lawyers if they happened to be the same country goes to how much power they have to do what they like as well as fool people.

Some contrast to the reviews on their website:
https://www.nordost.com/reviews.php

It reminds of a video posted on some thread a few years ago about Audioholics getting banned from some yearly event because things were said that one of their audiofoolic sponsors didn't like.

As I was looking for that video just found this:
https://forums.audioholics.com/forums/threads/got-banned.68964/
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steevo  Oct 8, 2010 #1
Well I finally got banned by the idiots at whathifi forum, for arguing with a guy that cable directionality did not exist. The editors are clueless idiots. They even review fibre optic cables for god sake and use words ynamics, muscle, focus, timing, detail, balance, emotion, expression, agility, refined, resolution, clarity, neutral, lively, verve, poise what nonsense. Why cant the U.K have a magazine and site like Audioholics.

As in Dave Jones No wonder why there is a flourishing industry of audiofoolery like
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1:00  there's a whole flourishing industry the audiofoolery industry... with even
1:12 more ridiculous outrageous claims andpeople get sucked into it all the tim

Through the magazines, controlled reviews and forum speak.


If they come after this forum I hope Dave gives them the middle finger and archive.org takes no notice.

Is Audiophile Snobbery and Snake Oil Ruining Our Industry? 6 Jan 2020[

Audioholics 183K subscribers Up: 2.7K Down: 60

I thought this was outrageous until the silencing above on that review:
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2:26 audio Expo dropped us as a sponsor as a media sponsor from their show and I was
really surprised by this because we put forth good effort fer for them last year
promoting their event but they told us the reason why they dropped us and they
didn't even call us audio holics they called us alcoholics like really being
derogatory towards our brand name
so they said the reason why they dropped us
as a media sponsor was because of our controversial :bullshit: views on cables
and I
thought to myself I go controversial so since when does objective science count
as controversial unfortunately we're living in an era of fake news apparently
and it's really surrounding the audio field and to me I could deal with the
...
3:31 the last 20 years it's been a struggle for audio holics because we're one of the few
audio press left that objectively measure and analyze audio performance

and also verify or invalidate manufacturer claims and I really think
it's important to have a free press to do that I think it's important to
promote the truth and the science of audio

Maybe these audiofoolery companies need alcohol poured over them to clean them out.
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« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2023, 07:40:32 pm »
This cable looks pretty inflexible.
 

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« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2023, 10:03:42 pm »
I'm looking for a way to be able to unplug a SATA drive via a in-line switch instead of wrenching it out of the socket on the drive and back in again or worse powering the drive off and back on.

Or even better a command to essentially do the same thing. (Reset the system's drive partition info after a full format.)
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« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2023, 10:35:23 pm »
Or even better a command to essentially do the same thing. (Reset the system's drive partition info after a full format.)

man partprobe

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« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2023, 04:58:29 am »
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Eargasm is my medicine because of the beta-endorphins it releases into my body. It is 18-33 times more powerful than morphine. There is no medicine or drug on Earth that can get even close to the power of the eargasm. With eargasms I was also able to double my IQ, it's that powerful (see proof in my Obscurum video). The way to get eargasms is with the Crystal Formula. This secret formula is inside the Superstar SATA cable and all other tweaks I sell. The more of them you add to your system the bigger the effect will be. The same is true when upgrading into a better formula. Most formulas doubled the performance with the next generation. After creating 36 Crystal Formulas over the past 13 years, a doubling of every generation has resulted in 34 billion times better sound between the first and last Crystal Formula. Customers were already getting eargasms from my first Crystal Formula, just imagine what the best tweaks will do. I recommend you get these while you can, because I can't create more of them in the future. The rare crystals and minerals I use are soon depleted from planet Earth.

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« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2023, 08:40:08 am »
"This SECRET formula"  :bullshit:  None of your business nevermind how it works.

So to sum it up: These crystals have "this secret formula" that will improve your life and make the audio sound twice better.
The more crystals you buy the more it will multiply the above.
 

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« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2023, 11:26:00 am »
Right - the power cord bullshit. From the wall socket to the amp or tuner or whatever - a few feet will do the majik. Except ... Hmmm ... how may feet of plain old simple AC wiring is in the walls and the buillding and outside coming to your wall socket. But yet that majik last few feet where you use that cable will make any difference.

Wasn't there this crazy japanese Audiophool who got his own powerline installed to his house?

...gooooooooogledidoo...

https://gizmodo.com/obsessed-audiophiles-in-japan-are-installing-their-own-1785291714
https://thevinylfactory.com/news/japanese-audiophiles-personal-utility-pole/

So what's another 500 bucks for yet another "superior" cable...
 

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« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2023, 12:12:16 pm »
Wasn't there this crazy japanese Audiophool who got his own powerline installed to his house?

To be fair, "private poles" are actually fairly common for houses in Australia where the blocks of land are bigger then "normal" or if you live on acreage, and where the street cabling is overhead (pole-to-pole). I have a private pole in my front yard. It's just a 3-phase tap off the lines running down the street where it then runs underground to my meter/switch box.

Someone who knows this subject more than me can confirm, but pole-to-house cabling just isn't done anymore.

Of course these crazies are doing it for entirely the wrong reasons.
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« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2023, 01:06:21 pm »
Yeah for us it was to do with the sell off. The 'private pole' was the distinction made of what was grid and what was the consumer. That's not to say you own the part from the private pole to your side of the meters.
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« Reply #32 on: February 27, 2023, 04:04:21 pm »
I am sure, the "privat lines" are common on large private lands. But the mentioned japanese audiophool built an extra one only for his audio setup. That's not so common, even for Australia, I guess ;)
 

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« Reply #33 on: February 27, 2023, 06:17:55 pm »
The article mentions 82 years old. I doubt that he can hear the difference between his setup run from one or the other utility connection.

By the looks of it his tap is from a high tension line with his own transformer, so that will reduce the line pollution a bit, but his room where he listens to the music does not seem to be adapted to the perfect sound experience. Neither does the other one with the so small apartment that opening the fridge is cumbersome.

For a real audio experience to perfection you would have to live in a studio that has been trimmed to perfection in combination with the speakers and amplifier.

To take it to the extreme go and visit a setup that has no reflections at all. Very long ago I visited such a space in Paris. Can't recall the name of the institute, but it was a very strange experience to stand in the perfect center and hearing yourself only through your bone structure. Otherwise absolute exterior silence.

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« Reply #35 on: February 27, 2023, 07:44:06 pm »
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That is a totally different experience  :-DD

Depending on the band you might need earplugs to enjoy it.

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« Reply #36 on: February 27, 2023, 08:19:33 pm »
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Does the band have audiophile power cords, speaker wires, and all the majik add-ons to make their sound come out right?  :P
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« Reply #37 on: February 27, 2023, 08:56:41 pm »
That's an idea for if you want good stuff to find out what bands use and even recording studios.
 

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bog standard nothing fancy,the most exotic you'll find is star quad with neutrik on the ends.
 

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bog standard nothing fancy,the most exotic you'll find is star quad with neutrik on the ends.

Oh come on, Neutrik is fancy compared to the Chinese shit you can buy.
 

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« Reply #40 on: February 28, 2023, 01:15:38 pm »
Does the band have audiophile power cords, speaker wires, and all the majik add-ons to make their sound come out right?  :P

When you look at the power rigs some bands use behind their guitar amps (AVR units, power isolation or even completely synthetic AC sources) the answer to that is *yes*.
 

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When you look at the power rigs some bands use behind their guitar amps (AVR units, power isolation or even completely synthetic AC sources) the answer to that is *yes*.
But that aint for audio quality reasons,thats more to do with protecting the kit from the dodgy power the 50 year old genny is spluttering out,it also makes multi country touring much simpler if you aint gotta worry about it being 110v  or 230v 50Hz or 60Hz,and whist not so much of an issue in guitar world,step over to keyboard central and having a genys speed  ramping up and down  can really upset the musos day if there using vintage kit
 

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« Reply #42 on: February 28, 2023, 03:25:43 pm »
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When you look at the power rigs some bands use behind their guitar amps (AVR units, power isolation or even completely synthetic AC sources) the answer to that is *yes*.
But that aint for audio quality reasons,thats more to do with protecting the kit from the dodgy power the 50 year old genny is spluttering out,it also makes multi country touring much simpler if you aint gotta worry about it being 110v  or 230v 50Hz or 60Hz,and whist not so much of an issue in guitar world,step over to keyboard central and having a genys speed  ramping up and down  can really upset the musos day if there using vintage kit

I read a great article with one of AC/DCs tour techs. He said Angus Young could quite easily tell if his amps weren't receiving pretty close to 236V on the button.
 

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« Reply #43 on: February 28, 2023, 05:20:31 pm »
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When you look at the power rigs some bands use behind their guitar amps (AVR units, power isolation or even completely synthetic AC sources) the answer to that is *yes*.
But that aint for audio quality reasons,thats more to do with protecting the kit from the dodgy power the 50 year old genny is spluttering out,it also makes multi country touring much simpler if you aint gotta worry about it being 110v  or 230v 50Hz or 60Hz,and whist not so much of an issue in guitar world,step over to keyboard central and having a genys speed  ramping up and down  can really upset the musos day if there using vintage kit

I read a great article with one of AC/DCs tour techs. He said Angus Young could quite easily tell if his amps weren't receiving pretty close to 236V on the button.

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« Reply #44 on: February 28, 2023, 06:59:24 pm »
I read a great article with one of AC/DCs tour techs. He said Angus Young * could quite easily tell if his amps weren't receiving pretty close to 236V on the button.

* How?

You know on old power supplies like ten years ago when the capacitors were wearing on them I could <* Redacted. None of your bloody business!> quite easily tell as well.

How? Changes in fan rpm that correlate to sudden power demand elsewhere. I hear the fans spin up and down a bit like on high cpu usage and activity with graphics card which obviously points to a drop on the 12v rail struggling to provide enough power.

I am sure he might have a way to identify a change in voltage on his kit or familiar pieces of kit that exhibit a common symptom that many may not know what to look or hear out for.

To me it's not a mystery but they seem to make it like it is one. I wonder whether he could he do it under a double blind test on it and across other pieces of kit where power supplies in them are designed differently.
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« Reply #45 on: February 28, 2023, 08:37:04 pm »
Brian May's guitar tech drags around an inverter set to 234/50.

https://youtu.be/jJ_OamX-PA8?t=1700
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« Reply #46 on: February 28, 2023, 10:44:52 pm »
Brian May's guitar tech drags around an inverter set to 234/50.

https://youtu.be/jJ_OamX-PA8?t=1700

Yea I've watched that video in the past. What he's doing (Pete Malandrone) is perfectly understandable. He wants the valve (I mean tube   :P ) amps to get the same AC power no matter where they go. They may change volume level a little bit or tone quality (even though I think they had some of that circuitry removed) if the power is a little off from 234 VAC. OK - those things are objective measurable parameters - not audiophool majik.
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« Reply #47 on: February 28, 2023, 10:52:46 pm »
The guy behind those cables and audiophile rocks started to post in Swedish HiFi forums probably 15 years ago his views were controversial to say the least, he made outrageous claims about HiFi, food, health and all sorts of tweaks he made to his sound system, and compared to this guy the famous Peter Belt was a complete amateur.  After a while he focused a lot on crystals and started Coconut audio selling the extremely thick mains cables.

Some people on the forums thought the hole thing was so strange they speculated maybe he was some sort of conceptual artist trolling them. Then Coconut audio was changed to audiophile rocks and it still goes on, I think the guy is honest in the sense that he believes it works and that his cables and other tweaks makes the sound better.

 
 
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Anything to do with this?

http://www.adventuresinhifiaudio.com/14/01/2016/coconut-audios-vibradome-blue-star-into-the-unknown/#:~:text='Founded in 2010, Coconut Audio,sound of the audio system.
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Coconut Audio’s Vibradome Blue Star – Into The Unknown
Accessories Review 14 Jan 2016

Firstly my heartfelt apology to Kamilla Liljegren of Coconut Audio, who contacted me last year (June) out of the blue to review one of her ‘Tweaks’, as she markets them, the Vibradome Blue Star. I am late to this, very – sorry – and as such recently checking her website it looks like the Blue Star might have been discontinued (1), however as Coconut Audio are still trading and have new products to replace/supersede the Blue Star I felt I would continue to do the review, if nothing else to highlight the ‘Tweaks’ and how one of them worked.

For what they are worth, here are my thoughts, and experiences.

...

I must be honest, I was somewhat sceptical of Conconut Audio and I was, after checking the website out, going to decline Kamilla’s offer of a review as frankly this smacked of ‘New Age’ mumbo jumbo. However I do have an open mind and I was curious, so after much thought I replied to her email and agreed to accept a Vibradome Blue Star for review.

Frankly I don’t understand how placing a Blue Star on top of any of my equipment could make a difference, and I won’t pretend to being knowledgeable about how crystals might be able to effect a piece of audio equipment, but Coconut Audio feel they do as their product range, which includes interconnects, speaker cables SATA, USB and powercables are all based on using crystals.

...

Conclusions

Well I came to this very sceptical, I came pretty close to saying thank you but no thank you to Kamilla Liljegren’s offer of a review, as frankly I just can’t imagine how things like this are anything but a con to gullible audiophiles who accept things with not even a remote basis in engineering or science (3), * but in the case of the Coconut Audio Vibradome Blue Star its presence on a CD player, Pre-amplifier and Power-amplifier did make a very audible difference and being on either of those three items brought a repeatable improvement to music reproduction in my system.

I can offer no explanation for this, I am at a total loss but I heard what I heard and as such I must accept that this particular item does what it says on the tin, I just can’t tell you how. However what I can say is that I feel – for those with an open mind – that Coconut Audio’s Vibradome Blue Star, is definitely worth a try.

 

Neil

 

Source of loan – Manufacturer .

UK Retail Price  £50 – available directly from Coconut Audio.

Coconut Audio

Organization number: 9201264307

VAT number: SE 920126430701

Office address:

Kamilla Liljegren
Lysviksgatan 42
12342 Farsta
Sweden

Contact: http://Email: info@coconut-audio.com


* Could it be his sense of perception increased during the review trying to find answers?
 

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Re: $500 Audiofool SATA SSD Cable
« Reply #49 on: February 28, 2023, 11:30:35 pm »
To be fair, "private poles" are actually fairly common for houses in Australia where the blocks of land are bigger then "normal" or if you live on acreage, and where the street cabling is overhead (pole-to-pole). I have a private pole in my front yard. It's just a 3-phase tap off the lines running down the street where it then runs underground to my meter/switch box.

Someone who knows this subject more than me can confirm, but pole-to-house cabling just isn't done anymore.

Of course these crazies are doing it for entirely the wrong reasons.

My grandma's house had that. Actually she had two poles on her property, and a dedicated transformer feeding only her house which was formerly a chicken farm and thus had quite high power requirements back in the 60s when it was installed. The land was large enough that multiple poles were required to span the distance between the road and the house. I remember her saying they used a "trick" to greatly reduce the cost and paid for a leased yard light on a pole which the PUD would do at least back then. That way the utility would pay for everything up to the pole near the house which had the yard light on it, and from that it was only about a 40 foot run of triplex from that pole to the house.
 

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Re: $500 Audiofool/COCONUTAUDIO UNREAL SATA Cable
« Reply #50 on: February 28, 2023, 11:36:02 pm »
Oh look what I found under another name:

https://web.archive.org/web/20140511002314/http://coconut-audio.com/digital.html
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Unreal SATA

Unreal SATA gives a blacker background :bullshit: with more detail than Megalodon SATA. You will hear sounds you never heard before.

Specifications
2-stage Alien crystal formula
Ultra Transparent Crystal Treatment
SATA 6Gbps
Whitewood tree fibers
Black crystal crust
32mm thick
50 cm long

Price: $3,000
Factory :bullshit: Direct price: $1,500 (must be selling loads of these to be manufactured in a factory)
2 weeks building time

E-mail us to order: order@coconut-audio.com

Shipping
Worldwide shipping is included in the price. This cable is shipped with Registered Mail that is often as quick as Express.
A hose with some crystal and fibre artwork on it.

The guy behind those cables and audiophile rocks started to post in Swedish HiFi forums probably 15 years ago his views were controversial to say the least, he made outrageous claims
Just like this one on their ebay listing:
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About
The precious crystals used in our Hi-Fi tweaks can no longer be found on planet Earth.  :bullshit: We sell the remaining tweaks here until they are gone forever.

Nonsense... sounds to me he pulls it out of his backside with a bit of pressure selling. I am sure if and when he feels like it more will come out like that.

So he is saying he is the *only* person capable of making this *magical* stuff that you slap on your audio gear to improve the sound and others can't do the same.
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« Reply #51 on: March 01, 2023, 02:51:00 am »
Oh look what I found under another name:

coconut-audio.com

I think it means you have to be a complete coconut to even contemplate buying one.

The stupid thing looks like a dog chew toy.
 
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Re: $10000 Audiofool/COCONUTAUDIO UNREAL SPDIF Cable
« Reply #52 on: March 01, 2023, 08:04:37 am »
Just noticed this on the same page but with no picture:
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Unreal 2.0 RCA * SPDIF
Picture coming soon
Special order
Specifications
2-stage Alien crystal formula
Ultra Transparent Crystal Treatment
Furutech FX-Alpha-Ag * wiring  :bullshit:
Whitewood tree fibers
Black crystal crust
20mm thick
3.5m long

Price: $10,000
Factory Direct price: $5,000 1 month building time
* How can there be wires in there when it is suppose to be optical.

https://www.brontecablecompany.com/products/copy-of-furutech-fx-alpha-ag-coaxial-fp-160-g-spdif-digital-cable
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Furutech FX-Alpha-Ag Coaxial/FP-110 (G) SPDIF Digital Cable-1.5 Meter
Regular price $240.00

So $540 for 3.5m and that's about 18 times markup.
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Re: $500 Audiofool/COCONUTAUDIO UNREAL SATA Cable
« Reply #53 on: March 01, 2023, 09:59:47 am »
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no one else sees this?  :o

Cut off the cable ends and you have a $500 kinky toy  :D

for server geeks in the back room,

where the old school Xerox is parked   :popcorn:

Definitely an office party no go zone for normal folks, sober or not   :palm:

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« Reply #54 on: March 01, 2023, 10:15:39 am »
"2-stage Alien crystal formula"

I might invest an extra grand or so for a 3-stage Alien crystal formula tuned SATA-cable. But 2-stage is just outdated technology, no wonder the aliens left that crystal stuff in his pants or stove (not sure). Not-so-polite people and aliens would just describe it as "waste dumping"...
 

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« Reply #55 on: March 01, 2023, 06:05:09 pm »
I was initially rather shock that anyone would buy an meter-long AC cord at over $100 let alone 50x that.  That curiosity took me to Dave's video and others...  "What kind of nuts are these..." was dominating my thoughts.

But...  The value of things is defined by what others are willing to pay to have it.

I am sure in a blind test, one cannot distinguish whether one is wearing the Hope Diamond or one is wearing merely a properly shaped and weighted piece of common rock.  So, "fools" are aplenty everywhere you look.

If $5000 for an extension cord buys them satisfaction or happiness, It is not for me to argue....  (If you can peek into my brain, you would see my dominating thought still is: Damn bloody fools, go buy miniature solid gold toilet, it will hold its value better...)
 

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« Reply #56 on: March 01, 2023, 06:31:09 pm »
I was initially rather shock that anyone would buy an meter-long AC cord at over $100 let alone 50x that.  That curiosity took me to Dave's video and others...  "What kind of nuts are these..." was dominating my thoughts.

"There's a sucker born every minute."

Often attributed to P.T. Barnum

I've wondered, what if the seller of these BS parts came out and just said -

"All this crap is bogus - it don't do jack squat. I will offer to refund all your money."

This after many audiofools have made posted claims of sound improvement. How many would admit they were wrong and get the refund? I bet not all would.
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« Reply #57 on: March 01, 2023, 07:09:52 pm »
This after many audiofools have made posted claims of sound improvement. How many would admit they were wrong and get the refund? I bet not all would.

Nobody likes to admit they were fooled, so you are likely to win  8)

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« Reply #58 on: March 02, 2023, 09:56:15 am »
This after many audiofools have made posted claims of sound improvement. How many would admit they were wrong and get the refund? I bet not all would.

Nobody likes to admit they were fooled, so you are likely to win  8)

They are more likely to state that any comment and exposure of their ripoff foolery expenditure
is because concerned clued people tipping them off are jealous and poor, 
and clicking on too many Youtube mythbusting channels,

with no appreciation or understanding of   'you get what you pay for..:horse:
 
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« Reply #59 on: March 02, 2023, 10:25:53 am »
This after many audiofools have made posted claims of sound improvement. How many would admit they were wrong and get the refund? I bet not all would.

Classic cognitive dissonance at work. Since I can't admit wasting a large sum on audiophoolery it makes me believe the sound is better. Problem solved.
 

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« Reply #60 on: March 02, 2023, 04:16:02 pm »
I always wonder how many of these things are essentially money laundering schemes.
If an actual audiophool buys one of these cables, all the better for the launderers :D
 

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Re: $500 Audiofool SATA SSD Cable (ebay audiofool scammer audiophile.rocks)
« Reply #61 on: March 03, 2023, 05:31:55 am »
Just looking at more of his things but noticed the about info has changed from when I last looked:
Archive.org:
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https://www.ebay.com/usr/audiophile.rocks
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The precious crystals used in our Hi-Fi tweaks can no longer be found on planet Earth. We sell the remaining tweaks here until they are gone forever.

Location: Sweden
Member since: Nov 16, 2004

Now:
https://www.ebay.com/usr/audiophile.rocks?#tab1
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About
Since year 2010 we have designed thousands of rocks that are placed on top of the audio system. These contain our proprietary  :bullshit: Crystal Formula * which has been fine-tuned by ear to 0.01 gram accuracy.  :bullshit: We created 36 different levels of Crystal Formulas where the performance was doubled with every new generation. In most cases a single rock is equally good as two rocks of the previous generation. So you can either buy a more expensive rock, or many cheap ones. The prices of our rocks are based on the performance level, so whichever rock you choose to buy, you can never go wrong.
** We recommend to cover your entire system with rocks, with at least 50% coverage. *** After you reach this stage, you get the best result when upgrading to more expensive rocks.

Location: Sweden
Member since: Nov 16, 2004
Buzzword bullshit: Proprietary, crystal formulas, fine-tuned

* By which method used to calculate what the ear is getting? or by the ear itself? :bullshit:

** We recommend you SPEND ALL OF YOUR MONEY on rocks until there is no space left on your audio system.

*** After you reach that stage, the joy of them wears out and then you get sucked into more overpriced rocks until you get overdrawn in debt and then it is all over.


23rd of October 2020
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We specialize in high-end audiophile tweaks using crystal based formulas.

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« Reply #62 on: March 03, 2023, 05:37:29 pm »
Search Google: Audiogon audiorocks
https://www.google.com/search?q=Audiogon+audiorocks
Audiophile Rocks | Shop & Research :bullshit: - Audiogon

Just found this on AUDIOGOON and I wonder is this him?
https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lisa13c3-audiophile-rocks-white-night-superstar-1m-eu-schuko-ac-cables
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Sorry, this listing has ended
Audiophile Rocks White Night Superstar 1m EU Schuko [Expired]
patrick82  member since April 2005

This 1 meter Superstar cable has only been built with European style plug. It is extra thick (25mm) which gives greater vibration damping  :bullshit: . It uses our best Superstar Crystal Formula which is 3 times better than H2U2 (which was many times better than Unreal and White Night cables). This Superstar cable is built in the classic White Night design from year 2013 which was our most sold cable. The Superstar version is 10+ times better!!   :blah:
It has a rhodium  :bullshit: plated European male plug. The female end has a gold plated connector with a Furutech outer barrel with better clamps, this makes the sound a little warmer than my other cables. This IEC connector comes from a Nordost Valhalla power cable which I cut open 15 years ago. ** All of my cables are better than Valhalla :bullshit: which is especially noticeable in how lively and detailed the music sounds like. Between the tube and plug it has white wood in multiple layers including a layer of black quartz crystals which are hidden on the inside. I have only built a couple cables in this improved design because the construction is more complex compared to my normal cables. But it gives unbelievable sound quality  :bullshit: while looking beautiful at the same time!
This cable also has passive shielding on the outside for boosted performance which further sets it apart from our older cables. :bullshit:

Testimonials (year 2013 version)
"Wow how good the sound became. Wider :bullshit: and deeper soundstage, treble became crispy :bullshit: nice and the voices transformed  :bullshit: into people. Everything got better." - Vox   "Cable performance is excellent, blacker :bullshit: background, more detail and a more natural :bullshit: sound reproduction  :bullshit:. I didn't think this was possible. You are a genius." - Objektivisten   "It feels so amazinly organic :bullshit: in the sound, very fine detail and impressive size in all directions  :bullshit:." - Kurt49 Producer / Song writer
"It's like I'm surrounded by music. * The 3-dimensionality is impressive. And no, I'm only running two channel speakers. This cable is definitely in a different league." - Cheez

Specifications
Crystal Formula: Superstar Wiring: Standard copper Connectors: Rhodium plated European Schuko plug. Gold plated Wattgate IEC with Furutech FI-11 (R) outer barrel and clamps. Seal: White wood + black quartz crystals (hidden).
Sleeving: Techflex Grey carbon. Grounding: Yes Shielding: Yes. Active and Passive. Thickness of conductors: 15awg Thickness of tubing: 25mm Length: 100cm

Burn-in time
While the copper cable sounds amazing right from the beginning, it doesn't reach its full performance until after 1+ months of burn-in time. We made a direct comparison between two identical cables with different burn-in times. The first cable was burned in for a week, the second cable was burned in only 2 hours  :bullshit:. The one with 1 week burn-in time sounded more lively with greater dynamics  :bullshit:, detail, clarity, smoothness  :bullshit: and bass in a larger soundstage. The vocals sounded more transparent :bullshit: and realistic  :bullshit: while being more distinct from the rest of the music.
Opinions for facts.
*It is surround sound like SRS3D/DTS in some form or effect built into the amp or player.
**Every other cable has got to be better than his in that he just picks any bog standard normal sata cable and threads it through some art decor rock and hose.

Search Google: coconut audio patrick
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Patrick Nut - Inventor - Coconut-Audio | LinkedIn

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Inventor på Coconut-Audio
Greater Stockholm Metropolitan Area
1 följare 1 kontakt
Bli medlem för att se profilen
Coconut-Audio

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Coconut-Audio-bild
Inventor
  :bullshit:

So it IS him and he has an AudioGoon account too.

Nut as in the name.
I wonder if that his not his real name, he knows what he is doing and making making a mockery out of it.
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Re: $500 Audiofool SATA SSD Cable LAST ONE LIE
« Reply #63 on: March 08, 2023, 01:54:33 pm »
He lied twice before about his Superstar Sata cable being the last one:
https://www.ebay.com/fdbk/feedback_profile/audiophile.rocks?user_context=BUYER
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Superstar SATA computer cable 20mm black/white 0.5m LAST ONE! (Audiophile Rocks) (#294564954429) More than a year ago
Superstar SATA computer cable 20mm blue 0.5m LAST ONE! (Audiophile Rocks) (#294564938789) More than a year ago



So he lie's again that his latest Superstar sata cable is his last one in his live listing:
Superstar SATA 25mm 0.5m grey carbon (LAST and best computer Hi-Fi cable) (#295484459432)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/295484459432

Unless he means just the art decor and not his "proprietary formula".

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The best SATA cable ever made, but also the last one; we can't build more of it because the crystals are depleted from planet Earth! I have been using it in my system for 4 years, but it's still in excellent condition. The cable is 0.5m long with standard SATA 3.0 connectors. Internally it has our classic Superstar Crystal Formula which is optimized for source components, so it's perfect for the computer. The ends are built from wood and black quartz crystals for extra strength. The tubing is 25mm thick and contains twice the Crystal Formula over the 20mm version.

I'll have to wait and see for another listing to see if that says the same thing.

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Re: $500 Audiofool SATA SSD Cable
« Reply #64 on: March 08, 2023, 06:07:34 pm »


Now that looks like a legit salesman. I would happily hand him over thousands of bucks for some space optimized crap crystals.
 

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« Reply #65 on: March 08, 2023, 06:37:26 pm »
How gullible do you have to be to buy into this bullshit.  :-DD

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« Reply #66 on: March 08, 2023, 06:50:12 pm »
How gullible do you have to be to buy into this bullshit.  :-DD

Hmmm. I'm wonderin' what would happen if I put one or two of them rock-things on top of my 34401A, would it improve it's performance?
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« Reply #67 on: March 08, 2023, 08:10:12 pm »
Isn't the disguise a giveaway? He doesn't have an online betting agency or pub full of pokies to do it with, so he's taking money for nothing cottage industry style. At least he's only targeting those with too much money to begin with.
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Re: $500 Audiofool SATA SSD Cable
« Reply #68 on: March 09, 2023, 01:09:51 pm »
I think I have identified this guy.

https://www.hitta.se/patrick+marcus+sebastian+liljegren/bergvik/person/dRw-1J7ecE

Age matches, "Patrick" matches, and the Liljegren from Coconut matches as well.

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Re: Audiofool Patrick Marcus Sebastian Liljegren
« Reply #69 on: March 09, 2023, 03:08:20 pm »
Excellent work, "Patrick Marcus Sebastian Liljegren" now that Sounds more like it.

"Nut" didn't sound to me like part of his real name at first but now I think he could mean it shortened for coconut.


See the outline? I wonder if that is greenscreened.


Also despite the audio equipment showing a shadows on that pool table it seems a bit blurred compared to the rest and a slight reflect on the edges of the bottom side.

His appearance reminds me of something I have seen before a bit like a pirate.
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« Reply #70 on: March 09, 2023, 03:14:18 pm »
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I'm wonderin' what would happen if I put one or two of them rock-things on top of my 34401A, would it improve it's performance?
Great idea,im gonna stick a couple  on the top of my mates marshal stack,that should guarantee an international no 1 hit single.
 
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Re: $500 Audiofool SATA SSD Cable
« Reply #71 on: March 09, 2023, 06:37:21 pm »
Foolishness knows no bounds.  It is really ironic that the really stupid ones are too stupid to know they are stupid.

It would be interesting to see, with upcoming economic downturns, if such foolishness is affected by general economic conditions as say expensive coffee.  But, given current state of affairs, there is probably a multi-million dollar government grant already given to study audio rock price vs broccoli price already.  I'll just monitor the Silly Walk Ministry website and not miss the results.
 

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Re: $500 Audiofool SATA SSD Cable
« Reply #72 on: March 09, 2023, 09:57:08 pm »
It looks like he green screened the whole thing apart from the snooker table and possibly the lights which he spoke of:

youtube.com/watch?v=fdGgJYsS94s

Comparing different pool masks, which one is the best
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00:28 so i like this mask more however the lights are too dark i don't have any
lights at all on top of my pools table so i i i see everything  too dark okay i don't have any pool
table lights i don't have pool table lights i couldn't hang them anywhere but i i have the
uh the hall lights up in the ceiling very bright a total 50 000 lumens of lighting is what i have
but nothing directly on top of the pool table facing down
i don't have any any lights


Foolishness knows no bounds.  It is really ironic that the really stupid ones are too stupid to know they are stupid.
Just noticed in the background:


So he didn't just put it in there for show and removed it after the ebay listing but left it in there and it looks like he might even believe his own claims.


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Re: $500 Audiofool SATA SSD Cable
« Reply #73 on: March 16, 2023, 07:59:13 pm »
Ummm.... you guys realize this is a joke and you and everyone else is being trolled... right?
 
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Re: $500 Audiofool SATA SSD Cable
« Reply #74 on: March 16, 2023, 08:19:26 pm »
With "Nut" in his Linkedin profile name that did cross my mind.
 

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Re: $500 Audiofool SATA SSD Cable
« Reply #75 on: March 17, 2023, 08:08:03 am »
Ummm.... you guys realize this is a joke and you and everyone else is being trolled... right?

Per se, I would agree.
However, he is selling this stuff for years on his ebay account, so I would assume some commercial interest, which makes this a fraud.
 
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« Reply #76 on: March 18, 2023, 05:35:35 pm »
Per se, I would agree.
However, he is selling this stuff for years on his ebay account, so I would assume some commercial interest, which makes this a fraud.
Technically, whether it's a fraud depends on what is stated in this cable's specifications.

upd: I checked the listing. There are literally no claims, except that "the best SATA cable ever made" may be considered inappropriate advertising in some jurisdictions.
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« Reply #77 on: March 18, 2023, 09:14:56 pm »
Stop ranting about a very lucrative business, be smart, let's sell audiophile-grade toothpicks for $50 ;)
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Re: $500 Audiofool SATA SSD Cable
« Reply #78 on: March 19, 2023, 06:41:34 pm »
Stop ranting about a very lucrative business, be smart, let's sell audiophile-grade toothpicks for $50 ;)

Nahhh...   I think "rants" and technical discussion here would not make a bit of difference at all.

If reality such as (web and printed) pages and pages of technical data, scope display, so on have already been put forth over the years and made no difference, why would a few more pages of rants by "people who doesn't have refined ears" make any difference?

In fact, folks here can use "business ideas" and this discussion reaffirms "there is money out there to be made".  It would be interesting to consult someone of high repute and respect: "If buyer is willing and no lies were told, is it moral to sell something that you know for sure wont do any good or harm?"
 

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Re: $500 Audiofool SATA SSD Cable
« Reply #79 on: March 19, 2023, 10:15:56 pm »
Stop ranting about a very lucrative business, be smart, let's sell audiophile-grade toothpicks for $50 ;)

I think you will find that I have those patented, just biding my time.
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Re: $500 Audiofool SATA SSD Cable
« Reply #80 on: March 20, 2023, 08:21:08 pm »
It would be interesting to consult someone of high repute and respect: "If buyer is willing and no lies were told, is it moral to sell something that you know for sure wont do any good or harm?"

Reminds me a bit like the gambling machines.
Doesn't do any harm until they get taken in and all their money is gone despite the warnings on the unit and a gambling careline phone number.

Taken in with the imaginary claims that it will make their audio output sound better where they say as Dave Jones mentioned something about in his Audiofoolery video that they have come out with bigger, better, bolder claims that about their new cables sounding better to hook the buyers in.
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Re: $500 Audiofool SATA SSD Cable
« Reply #81 on: March 23, 2023, 10:10:37 pm »
"If buyer is willing and no lies were told, is it moral to sell something that you know for sure wont do any good or harm?"

Uh. Most of what is being sold fits in that category.

Who gets to decide what is good or harmful? (Excepting harmful as in dangerous, of course, which is already illegal anyway.)

Debunking dodgy stuff is good. It's fun and has the potential to educate people.
And, anything that qualifies as a scam or is not compliant with regulations is illegal. So if you can prove something is illegal to sell, end of the story.

In all other cases, making it a moral matter and going down this slippery lane? I don't think so. ::)
 

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Re: $500 Audiofool SATA SSD Cable
« Reply #82 on: March 24, 2023, 06:48:41 am »
"If buyer is willing and no lies were told, is it moral to sell something that you know for sure wont do any good or harm?"

Uh. Most of what is being sold fits in that category.

Who gets to decide what is good or harmful? (Excepting harmful as in dangerous, of course, which is already illegal anyway.)

Debunking dodgy stuff is good. It's fun and has the potential to educate people.
And, anything that qualifies as a scam or is not compliant with regulations is illegal. So if you can prove something is illegal to sell, end of the story.

In all other cases, making it a moral matter and going down this slippery lane? I don't think so. ::)

Alcohol, tobacco, and high sugar/fat foods are all legal, and all scientifically proven to be harmful, period. Firearms are dangerous (which to me, mean they are harmful when misused, and are very easily misused) but legal in quite a few countries.

Hell, cars are dangerous, in fact any vehicle pretty much is.
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Re: $500 Audiofool SATA SSD Cable
« Reply #83 on: April 04, 2023, 07:00:03 am »
Almost 4y ago i made my own cable for my headphones.

It use litz 0.7mm², G+L braided w/ step 20mm, G+R w/ step 34mm, and both channels are braided w/ step 50mm guess. Also it's shielded additionally.
It's well protected and well soldered. Sound is improved 😁
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