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3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?

Very useful power efficiency control products.
2 (3%)
Software Defined Electricity is the future!
1 (1.5%)
Nothing new, all been done before.
4 (6.1%)
Not sure / don't know.
5 (7.6%)
Probably mostly just snake oil / scam.
54 (81.8%)

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Offline ogden

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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #175 on: August 19, 2019, 03:55:16 pm »
Hence my confusion, The neutral current is simply the sum of the individual phase currents. (in a perfect system)
We will usually have some leakage current and some neutral to earth potential, which are usually associated with a fault.

Three phase system is very clever in a sense that "power delivered" versus "wires used" ratio is very good. Perfectly balanced three-phase system can live without neutral wire at all. That's why high voltage power grid lines have only three fat conductors, fourth conductor on top acts more like lightning rod rather than neutral wire. Three phase motor do not need neutral wire to operate - think about it. Phase imbalance creates neutral current that has nothing to do with neutral to earth potential which would be earthing fault.
 

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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #176 on: September 14, 2019, 12:50:22 am »
That is correct. The amount of power demanded by the load does not change. It is the additional waste that is prevented from being drawn.
Nope, the power dissipated over the neutral wire is the power not dissipated on the phase wires, should they have been perfectly balanced. There are not much losses left over to be concerned about.
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #177 on: September 20, 2019, 12:35:08 pm »
Struggling to keep up with all the requests for information on their SDE technology, 3DFS show their 3 phase power analyzer, which is not all that portable. :horse:
https://twitter.com/doerfler/status/1174709460478103553
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #178 on: September 20, 2019, 01:51:06 pm »
Struggling to keep up with all the requests for information on their SDE technology, 3DFS show their 3 phase power analyzer, which is not all that portable. :horse:
https://twitter.com/doerfler/status/1174709460478103553

Come on; don't sandwich another bout of disbelief in between that moment of pride.  :P

Seriously though -- where do they say what's inside that trailer? (How do you know it's their power analyzer?) The trailer might simply be chuck-full of "clean power", as stated on the outside, so the bigger the better.  ;)
 

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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #179 on: September 20, 2019, 02:40:23 pm »
"How do you know it's their power analyzer?"

It says "Electrical Network Evaluation Unit." along the bottom, that's 3DFS speak for "A Power Meter". :horse:
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #180 on: September 20, 2019, 04:29:07 pm »
Holy shit! :wtf: Is it full of tubes? Even that sounds like it would be smaller, unless they have a tube computer in there too (or an arc rectifier). ;D Other wise it's probably full of rubbish like air, concrete, bricks, exc. ::)
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #181 on: September 23, 2019, 10:51:24 pm »
Yuck it up!

Is it CGI?

I can see you've been having fun on twitter, using those 2 old pdfs and the vox.com article as data is terrible, they're full of errors and #bonkers claims.
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #182 on: September 24, 2019, 05:43:35 am »
:-DD Your jealousy is palpable. I noticed you have not mentioned our Compressor Controller technology making it into a DOE funded technology commercialization program. Must have slipped your mind.

What is great about this forum is that you have all stated your disbelief and said SDE cannot be done. My reason for following this thread is to watch you all as you find out you were wrong.  :-//

Keep laughing. It only makes this funnier.

What's really funny is a modern 3-phase power analyer can fit in your toolbox. ::) And you show a damn trailer the size of a mini-camper. That is not progress, that is being stuck in the 50s. :palm:
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #183 on: September 24, 2019, 08:02:17 am »
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trailer the size of a mini-camper

Might that be a display unit for exhibitions?
 

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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #184 on: September 24, 2019, 09:27:31 am »
Might that be a display unit for exhibitions?

I don't think they do exhibitions anymore, people must google before inviting them. >:D  Perhaps it's their new premises.

After 7 years of saving the world with this transformative technology, it must be the least successful marketing campaign ever.
No results found for "3dfs customer".
No results found for "3dfs power customer".
No results found for "3dfs power customers"
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #185 on: September 24, 2019, 11:05:34 am »
 

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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #186 on: September 24, 2019, 11:06:01 am »


Yes, our power controller is so big that it is on wheels and we paint a smaller power controller and even panel on the side so it appears smaller. We were hoping nobody noticed the size, but I forget how smart people on this forum are.

Foiled again by those darn eevblog kids!


For a super serious person that has invented something the world never has seen before, you surely lack some skills...

 
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #187 on: September 24, 2019, 11:19:19 am »


Yes, our power controller is so big that it is on wheels and we paint a smaller power controller and even panel on the side so it appears smaller. We were hoping nobody noticed the size, but I forget how smart people on this forum are.

Foiled again by those darn eevblog kids!

For a super serious person that has invented something the world never has seen before, you surely lack some skills...

The skill I lack is engaging with unimportant, petulant children like adults. That is not a skill that is needed to deliver technology.

Once again you prove my point to perfection
 
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #188 on: September 24, 2019, 01:32:31 pm »
What "technology"? Google says you've delivered jack shit.

Might that be a display unit for exhibitions?

I don't think they do exhibitions anymore, people must google before inviting them. >:D  Perhaps it's their new premises.

After 7 years of saving the world with this transformative technology, it must be the least successful marketing campaign ever.
No results found for "3dfs customer".
No results found for "3dfs power customer".
No results found for "3dfs power customers"
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #189 on: September 24, 2019, 07:34:06 pm »
What "technology"? Google says you've delivered jack shit.

Might that be a display unit for exhibitions?

I don't think they do exhibitions anymore, people must google before inviting them. >:D  Perhaps it's their new premises.

After 7 years of saving the world with this transformative technology, it must be the least successful marketing campaign ever.
No results found for "3dfs customer".
No results found for "3dfs power customer".
No results found for "3dfs power customers"

"Google says" ...   :-DD  :palm:

The con artist says otherwise? ::)
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #190 on: September 24, 2019, 08:05:41 pm »
Groundhog day...  :popcorn:
 
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #191 on: September 24, 2019, 09:01:47 pm »
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Or am I missing something?

The fact that we've debunked you thoroughly and repeatedly throughout this thread yet you still claim to sell this rubbish to people. :palm: PF correction is a real thing, yes, your outlandish claims, not so much.

EDIT: Oh, and the fact that you keep saying you are better than everyone because you know some "fundamental truth". Just like the nutter who posted this thread https://www.eevblog.com/forum/dodgy-technology/over-unity-it-runs-on-water-stanley-meyer/
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #192 on: September 25, 2019, 02:10:30 am »
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Or am I missing something?

The fact that we've debunked you thoroughly and repeatedly throughout this thread yet you still claim to sell this rubbish to people. :palm: PF correction is a real thing, yes, your outlandish claims, not so much.

EDIT: Oh, and the fact that you keep saying you are better than everyone because you know some "fundamental truth". Just like the nutter who posted this thread https://www.eevblog.com/forum/dodgy-technology/over-unity-it-runs-on-water-stanley-meyer/

Debunked?!  :-DD :-DD :-DD You all haven't debunked a thing.

You have admitted that your knowledge of electronics and electronics design is limited in scope and there is even less capacity of learning what you don't know so you throw shit like monkeys.

Your self congratulations has determined that your our design would not work with your understanding. That's all.  :palm:

 :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah:

Not only have we debunked you if you read this whole thread Mr.Insane Psychologist who has no real engineering degree unlike a lot of people who have questioned you on this forum, but you have been debunked elsewhere on the internet with the same responses. (links have been posted here before)

https://www.quora.com/How-feasible-is-the-software-defined-electricity-proposed-by-3DFS
https://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/threads/an-operating-system-for-electricity.149474/
https://www.reddit.com/r/energy/comments/8or7gl/3dfss_software_for_electricity_could_double_the/

You are like a broken record, the Mad Hatter, or more like mad not-actually-a-real-scientist. ::) Just beating around the bush throwing evidence that's never any actual proof, then calling us crazy like some child going "no, I'm not wrong!" :palm:

Are the marketing team gonna punish you if you get exposed? Or, more likely, you really are completely delusional yourself.

The real kickers are the reviews of your website.

Here's an old one from 2011 that shows you to be directly associated with a free energy scam website! That's a nasty stain on your reputation.

http://americantrollsociety.blogspot.com/2011/04/overunity-suppression-tactics.html

"this website seems suspicious" ::)

http://www.scamaudit.com/domain/3dfs.com

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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #193 on: September 25, 2019, 04:28:49 am »
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #194 on: September 25, 2019, 11:10:12 am »
So show us some evidence or shut up and bugger off!
 
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #195 on: September 25, 2019, 11:32:13 am »
Debunked?!  :-DD :-DD :-DD You all haven't debunked a thing.

Back in the real world, we can see there's claims you can longer make, and supporters you've lost, so debunked.

Why do you keep trying to question our knowledge, nobody knows everything, so here's an example of yours. :)

Automatic Impedance Matching
Within the process of Real-Time synchronization is automatic impedance matching for every load. The impedance will be maintained under 1 milliohm at all time on the supply and load sides simultaneously.


Your pdfs of official tests shouldn't contain such nonsense anywhere.
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #196 on: September 25, 2019, 12:45:46 pm »
So show us some evidence or shut up and bugger off!

This is done daily. Feel free to come over.

You have shown tons of "evidence" already that we've proved scientifically to be false. :blah:

We're trolling you becauve YOU are trolling like a whiney brat and not actually even attempting to defend your claims anymore, or is it simply because you know you can't? ::)
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #197 on: September 25, 2019, 02:20:52 pm »
So show us some evidence or shut up and bugger off!

This is done daily. Feel free to come over.

You have shown tons of "evidence" already that we've proved scientifically to be false. :blah:

We're trolling you becauve YOU are trolling like a whiney brat and not actually even attempting to defend your claims anymore, or is it simply because you know you can't? ::)

Oh, you are scientists now! Then you know about the method of observation. Which is peculiar because none of you have observed this technology.


..."proved scientifically to be false".... :-DD :-DD :-DD  This mediocre trolling really kicks my day off with a smile. Thank you!

Something tells me your marketing team are not smiling. Also "you haven't seen it" is exactly the same speil free energy nuts use. In fact, that's what MariandJay said about that ZeroBreeze rubbish as well "you haven't tried it", when it can't possibly meet it's claims due to basic physics.

You have thrown around a ton of claims, and the internet full of real engineers (unlike yourself) has proven them false.

You want observation? Send EEVBlog one of your units for a teardown.
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #198 on: September 25, 2019, 03:15:37 pm »
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You want observation? Send EEVBlog one of your units for a teardown.

HA, thats never gonna happen, that 3dfs guy got way too much chicken going on.
Wonder what his excuse will be, "not possible to ship it downunder", "can't show our superior BS tech" etc
But he is sure to come up with an excuse  :-DD
 
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #199 on: September 26, 2019, 12:05:16 am »
As far as debunking goes, you are a moron who should spend less time on this forum than you do.

You're *this* close to getting banned. Stop it.
 
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