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3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?

Very useful power efficiency control products.
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Software Defined Electricity is the future!
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Nothing new, all been done before.
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Not sure / don't know.
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Probably mostly just snake oil / scam.
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #275 on: September 25, 2019, 11:10:12 am »
So show us some evidence or shut up and bugger off!
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #276 on: September 25, 2019, 11:32:13 am »
Debunked?!  :-DD :-DD :-DD You all haven't debunked a thing.

Back in the real world, we can see there's claims you can longer make, and supporters you've lost, so debunked.

Why do you keep trying to question our knowledge, nobody knows everything, so here's an example of yours. :)

Automatic Impedance Matching
Within the process of Real-Time synchronization is automatic impedance matching for every load. The impedance will be maintained under 1 milliohm at all time on the supply and load sides simultaneously.


Your pdfs of official tests shouldn't contain such nonsense anywhere.
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #277 on: September 25, 2019, 11:46:02 am »
Debunked?!  :-DD :-DD :-DD You all haven't debunked a thing.

Back in the real world, we can see there's claims you can longer make, and supporters you've lost, so debunked.

Why do you keep trying to question our knowledge, nobody knows everything, so here's an example of yours. :)

Automatic Impedance Matching
Within the process of Real-Time synchronization is automatic impedance matching for every load. The impedance will be maintained under 1 milliohm at all time on the supply and load sides simultaneously.


Your pdfs of official tests shouldn't contain such nonsense anywhere.

mmm hmm :phew: Good one.

Again, is this what you call debunking?  Vomiting some words on a forum as some sort of gotcha moment?!  :-DD :-DD

Walk me through how the internal circuitry of our technology doesn't do what it has been proven to do again. I can waste your time all day.  :horse:

It must be hard that somebody with a psychology degree knows more about this area of electricity than you do. That must sting... You must be filled with rage.
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #278 on: September 25, 2019, 11:46:57 am »
So show us some evidence or shut up and bugger off!

This is done daily. Feel free to come over.
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #279 on: September 25, 2019, 12:45:46 pm »
So show us some evidence or shut up and bugger off!

This is done daily. Feel free to come over.

You have shown tons of "evidence" already that we've proved scientifically to be false. :blah:

We're trolling you becauve YOU are trolling like a whiney brat and not actually even attempting to defend your claims anymore, or is it simply because you know you can't? ::)
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #280 on: September 25, 2019, 01:33:17 pm »
So show us some evidence or shut up and bugger off!

This is done daily. Feel free to come over.

You have shown tons of "evidence" already that we've proved scientifically to be false. :blah:

We're trolling you becauve YOU are trolling like a whiney brat and not actually even attempting to defend your claims anymore, or is it simply because you know you can't? ::)

Oh, you are scientists now! Then you know about the method of observation. Which is peculiar because none of you have observed this technology.


..."proved scientifically to be false".... :-DD :-DD :-DD  This mediocre trolling really kicks my day off with a smile. Thank you!
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #281 on: September 25, 2019, 02:20:52 pm »
So show us some evidence or shut up and bugger off!

This is done daily. Feel free to come over.

You have shown tons of "evidence" already that we've proved scientifically to be false. :blah:

We're trolling you becauve YOU are trolling like a whiney brat and not actually even attempting to defend your claims anymore, or is it simply because you know you can't? ::)

Oh, you are scientists now! Then you know about the method of observation. Which is peculiar because none of you have observed this technology.


..."proved scientifically to be false".... :-DD :-DD :-DD  This mediocre trolling really kicks my day off with a smile. Thank you!

Something tells me your marketing team are not smiling. Also "you haven't seen it" is exactly the same speil free energy nuts use. In fact, that's what MariandJay said about that ZeroBreeze rubbish as well "you haven't tried it", when it can't possibly meet it's claims due to basic physics.

You have thrown around a ton of claims, and the internet full of real engineers (unlike yourself) has proven them false.

You want observation? Send EEVBlog one of your units for a teardown.
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #282 on: September 25, 2019, 03:15:37 pm »
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You want observation? Send EEVBlog one of your units for a teardown.

HA, thats never gonna happen, that 3dfs guy got way too much chicken going on.
Wonder what his excuse will be, "not possible to ship it downunder", "can't show our superior BS tech" etc
But he is sure to come up with an excuse  :-DD
 
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #283 on: September 26, 2019, 12:05:16 am »
As far as debunking goes, you are a moron who should spend less time on this forum than you do.

You're *this* close to getting banned. Stop it.
 
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #284 on: September 26, 2019, 12:14:59 am »
As far as debunking goes, you are a moron who should spend less time on this forum than you do.

You're *this* close to getting banned. Stop it.

Can we at least lock this stupid thread? It's been going in circles for months now, it's not adding anything IMHO.
 
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #285 on: September 26, 2019, 01:58:13 am »
Can we at least lock this stupid thread? It's been going in circles for months now, it's not adding anything IMHO.

I don't get these bits, is someone somehow forcing you to click on it, there's many threads here I hate and think should be removed such as the Three Word Story, TEA, any with subjects of "Question" or "Help" I get around this awful problem by just never clicking on them.
Of course it would be different if ppl were killing each other or it was spilling into other threads, but as long as it's on topic and in the right group I can't see the problem me-self. As someone else said it is or was educational, and quite fun at times.
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #286 on: September 26, 2019, 02:35:53 am »
I don't get these bits, is someone somehow forcing you to click on it, there's many threads here I hate and think should be removed such as the Three Word Story, TEA, any with subjects of "Question" or "Help" I get around this awful problem by just never clicking on them.
Of course it would be different if ppl were killing each other or it was spilling into other threads, but as long as it's on topic and in the right group I can't see the problem me-self. As someone else said it is or was educational, and quite fun at times.

It is extremely rare that I ever suggest that a thread be locked, but when it is circling around and around and around and going nowhere except swapping insults, some veiled and some not so much, what is the point really? I mean yeah it's not that big of a deal, I never suggested it was, but it's a bit pointless IMHO.

I would care even less if I could put an unlimited number of threads on my ignore list but I seem to have hit that limit and every time I hit ignore on a thread it resurrects some other thread I have long ago ignored.
 

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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #287 on: September 26, 2019, 03:18:33 am »
This is the dodgy tech section, expect actual nutters to show up here.

I mean, there's a recent thread here with a real free energy nut. ::)
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #288 on: September 26, 2019, 04:18:57 am »
I worry that if this thread is locked, or the 3dfs guy is banned, nobody will ever hear from them again and we'd lose out on some laughs.
 
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #289 on: September 26, 2019, 10:35:34 am »
As far as debunking goes, you are a moron who should spend less time on this forum than you do.

You're *this* close to getting banned. Stop it.

My apologies, that was a bit aggressive.
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« Reply #290 on: September 26, 2019, 11:25:15 am »
Pivoting away from the insults, I will relitigate this briefly because as StillTrying said, there is some merit to this conversation when it does not devolve into ego spreading.

I understand that since many of you are engineers and want to drag me down deep into your world and show my ignorance only to triumphantly declare victory, but much like a grower not a shower, there is more to it.

Conceptually, none of you have debunked this technology. You have clearly pointed out my imprecise language, education level, uncomfortability in front of crowds and poor social media techniques, etc., but not the tech.

So, instead of diving into your world, I bet if we were to walk through this from the top line down, you would all learn something that you did not know before, guaranteed.

Now, conceptually, what is the pushback behind Task Oriented Optmial Computing. It is a software based computing method that can be embedded into any processor (replacing the existing software) and more efficiently manages the processor and is able to extract orders of magnitude more computing power from that processor. In addition, multiple processors can be paralleled together for even more computing power. This is the key to all of our technology, computing power.

Is the pushback here or further down the line?
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #291 on: September 26, 2019, 11:28:58 am »

Now, conceptually, what is the pushback behind Task Oriented Optmial Computing. It is a software based computing method that can be embedded into any processor (replacing the existing software) and more efficiently manages the processor and is able to extract orders of magnitude more computing power from that processor. In addition, multiple processors can be paralleled together for even more computing power. This is the key to all of our technology, computing power.

Is the pushback here or further down the line?

That is just a load of codswallop!

How can you get more computing power out of a processor by adding your own software to ANY other software developed for that processor?
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #292 on: September 26, 2019, 11:48:01 am »

Now, conceptually, what is the pushback behind Task Oriented Optmial Computing. It is a software based computing method that can be embedded into any processor (replacing the existing software) and more efficiently manages the processor and is able to extract orders of magnitude more computing power from that processor. In addition, multiple processors can be paralleled together for even more computing power. This is the key to all of our technology, computing power.

Is the pushback here or further down the line?

That is just a load of codswallop!

How can you get more computing power out of a processor by adding your own software to ANY other software developed for that processor?

We REPLACE their software, not add. And we use processors in a principally different way. We have written our own computing language, compiler, machine code, etc.
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #293 on: September 26, 2019, 11:49:12 am »
what software are you replacing?
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #294 on: September 26, 2019, 11:52:43 am »
what software are you replacing?

All of the processor operating software. The only software used in the processors is ours. Nothing from the original manufacturer remains on the chip.
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #295 on: September 26, 2019, 11:54:22 am »
So this is software from a specific manufacturer?
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« Reply #296 on: September 26, 2019, 11:55:57 am »
So this is software from a specific manufacturer?

yes, it is proprietary from 3DFS. Used in SAM Controllers as well.

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« Reply #297 on: September 26, 2019, 12:07:25 pm »
So what does this software do?
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #298 on: September 26, 2019, 12:42:56 pm »
[...] is able to extract orders of magnitude more computing power from that processor. In addition, multiple processors can be paralleled together for even more computing power. This is the key to all of our technology, computing power.

Is the pushback here or further down the line?
I think one can start here. In my book, an order of magnitude is a tenfold increase. Here the plural is used, so let's say at least 1.5 OoM (just to be kind).
That is a 30-fold increase in "computing power" for a given processor.
Sorry, but extraordinary statements require extraordinary evidence.
Application specific computer languages are one dime a dozen.

This might just be a communication and language problem.
I would say cdoerfler is not the right guy to speak to EEs, or like minded persons, but he should be well aware of this by now.
Words are important.

If they have such a revolutionary technology, they should also have someone that understands and can explain it in a technical way.
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Re: 3DFS's VectorQ Digital Electricity Technology ?
« Reply #299 on: September 26, 2019, 01:17:45 pm »
So what does this software do?

It is all of the software required to deliver the computing power that we have. The interaction with the processor and the data processing, compiler, etc.
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