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Title: Another classic audiophoolery
Post by: Bobertsawesome on October 20, 2021, 12:46:06 am
I scribbled out the poster's name as to not directly dog his beliefs of this "technology," but I figured this should pose a good laugh...

Oh, and they're directional/polarized too. Make sure you install correctly!

(https://i.ibb.co/X2wZ6Ct/image.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/kJ82Fz5/image.png)
Title: Re: Another classic audiophoolery
Post by: Bobertsawesome on October 20, 2021, 12:48:51 am
I should really get into the audiophile industry.
Title: Re: Another classic audiophoolery
Post by: xrunner on October 20, 2021, 12:52:15 am
LOL  :wtf:

What the hell do you do with those?  :-DD
Title: Re: Another classic audiophoolery
Post by: Bobertsawesome on October 20, 2021, 12:57:54 am
Most higher-end speakers have separated terminals instead of an internal crossover which allows you to filter the frequencies to the tweeter, horn, driver yourself.

So basically this:
(https://www.lifewire.com/thmb/pJtpZCRxq7PgG80N-uBErVpMDGE=/768x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/bi-wire-02-57f6fe2b5f9b586c35a32004-5b43784bc9e77c0037550024.png)

Now, why on EARTH you couldn't just connect them with the same high-quality conductor you're running from your amp escapes me...
Title: Re: Another classic audiophoolery
Post by: xrunner on October 20, 2021, 01:01:49 am
But why not just use a whole piece of copper all the way to each terminal ... oh never mind  :palm:
Title: Re: Another classic audiophoolery
Post by: Bobertsawesome on October 20, 2021, 01:17:42 am
Well, my friend, you are in luck. They have that model still in stock.

(https://i.ibb.co/kBGY3Ww/image.png)

And for running to your speakers, I suggest their piece of copper wrapped in saran-wrap laid across multiple floor trusses.

(https://i.ibb.co/SwM5DXM/image.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/DMrTDyb/image.png)
Title: Re: Another classic audiophoolery
Post by: xrunner on October 20, 2021, 01:21:54 am
 :-DD

Thank you for making my evening more enjoyable.

On second thought, I'm terrified that people fall for this.  :-[
Title: Re: Another classic audiophoolery
Post by: Bobertsawesome on October 20, 2021, 01:32:53 am
I genuinely think I could start a business like this. Include frequency response testing on every copper ribbon cable that goes out the door (more $!). Would give me a reason to buy that spectrum analyzer I've always wanted :-DD.
Title: Re: Another classic audiophoolery
Post by: AVGresponding on October 20, 2021, 05:16:08 am
I genuinely think I could start a business like this. Include frequency response testing on every copper ribbon cable that goes out the door (more $!). Would give me a reason to buy that spectrum analyzer I've always wanted :-DD.

tsk tsk, the entire point of these audiophoolery products is that they are NEVER tested with anything that could be mistaken for NIST traceable equipment; it how you imagine it sounds that is the most important thing!
Title: Re: Another classic audiophoolery
Post by: MrMobodies on October 20, 2021, 06:02:53 am
https://shop.mapleshadestore.com/Clearview-Ultrathin-Digital-Interconnect_p_1215.html
(https://i.imgur.com/bykY95W.jpg)

I wonder what thing in the middles is for?


(https://i.imgur.com/v2hRaYu.jpg)

https://shop.mapleshadestore.com/Vivilink-3-HDMI-Cable_p_1293.html
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Vivilink 3 HDMI Cable

Part Number: VIVILINK3-ST
Your Price: $195.00

The Vivilink 3 delivers better AV quality than the highest priced HDMIs on the market: sharper images, more sparkling color, deeper blacks and better articulated, more transparent sound :bullshit:

The braided cable looks tiny and the physical connectors seems to be covered heat shrink rather than in a proper plastic molded cover. Also the heat shrink seems larger than the cable it is covering up.

Doesn't that defeat the purpose of what heatshrink is for to help grip the cable in place?

Title: Re: Another classic audiophoolery
Post by: Haenk on October 20, 2021, 07:54:27 am
(https://i.imgur.com/bykY95W.jpg)

I wonder what thing in the middles is for?

I'd say that looks like a solder joint of two paper/copper strips (similar to those "bridges" in the first post).

Well, there are dodgy, nice looking things. Then there are non-dodgy, ugly things. *These* however combine the best out of two worlds: dodgy, ugly and questionable manufacturing skills.

Title: Re: Another classic audiophoolery
Post by: daqq on October 20, 2021, 08:42:45 am
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I wonder what thing in the middles is for?
It is the Quantum Currency Converter. It allows the manufacturer to affect the flow of money and convert the negative money in the pockets of idiots into the positive money their own pockets. Very useful!
Title: Re: Another classic audiophoolery
Post by: madires on October 20, 2021, 10:06:50 am
As those jumpers are obviously directional how do they cope with AC signals like the output of your stereo amp? >:D
Title: Re: Another classic audiophoolery
Post by: tszaboo on October 20, 2021, 10:23:58 am
I wonder if they investigated how the sharpie marks change the quantum undisturbed electron flow of the audio.
Title: Re: Another classic audiophoolery
Post by: xrunner on October 20, 2021, 11:05:36 am
I wonder if they investigated how the sharpie marks change the quantum undisturbed electron flow of the audio.

I think you hit on something. They don't change the flow they direct it! Isn't it said that simply observing the world has an effect? Well observing the copper and marking it must have some effect.  :-//
Title: Re: Another classic audiophoolery
Post by: CJay on October 20, 2021, 11:06:28 am
I wonder if they investigated how the sharpie marks change the quantum undisturbed electron flow of the audio.

It's a well known audiophool 'fact' that different colour markers have different effects on audio quality.

I wonder what effect using a purple Sharpie to write 'Gullible dickhead with too much money' on a speaker cable would have on the sound?
Title: Re: Another classic audiophoolery
Post by: madires on October 20, 2021, 11:19:17 am
That would cause a serious distortion.
Title: Re: Another classic audiophoolery
Post by: MrMobodies on October 20, 2021, 08:53:03 pm
Well, there are dodgy, nice looking things. Then there are non-dodgy, ugly things. *These* however combine the best out of two worlds: dodgy, ugly and questionable manufacturing skills.

I see and they give you a "clear view" of it by wrapping it up in see through plastic.
Title: Re: Another classic audiophoolery
Post by: Bobertsawesome on October 20, 2021, 11:07:11 pm
Got another update for you guys today in my quest searching Hifi classifieds for some headphones I want. Came across these:

Lengths start at .75 m all the way to 12 m!
(https://i.ibb.co/9cnDMS6/Screen-Shot-2021-10-20-at-5-55-01-PM.png)

And long-grain copper C13 cables:
(https://i.ibb.co/h2KTLBM/Screen-Shot-2021-10-20-at-6-04-30-PM.png)
Title: Re: Another classic audiophoolery
Post by: CJay on October 21, 2021, 08:00:39 am
Oh I'm so pleased someone has finally made a variable current cable, you have no idea just how hard it is to get appliances to work with constant current cabling
Title: Re: Another classic audiophoolery
Post by: Haenk on October 21, 2021, 08:18:43 am
"Carbon-based noise dissipation" does not work well with heavy metal music, filtering out all that white or pink noise.
Title: Re: Another classic audiophoolery
Post by: xrunner on October 21, 2021, 11:59:35 am
I was thinking about those speaker jumpers some more, ans as far as marketing these jumpers, I'm a little surprised at the poor construction quality. The BS word salad description is there (could use more BS though), but most of the audiophool stuff is at least made to look expensive. Most of the audiophool add-on things you buy are things the consumer can see, replace themselves, and admire for that psychological feel-good experience. "Look at my audiophool outlet strip - I paid $10,000 for it! It has gold-plated contacts and sits atop a marble base for sonic dampening."

These are pretty crappy looking for audiophool stuff. They aren't cut-out the same, wires are different lengths, the labels are hand-drawn by a sharpie, and the soldering is not "pretty". I'd take more time and cut the copper into a more complex shape - maybe even have some special holes punched for some stupid reason I come up with. Then I'd write up even more BS about what the shape is for and how it makes the sonic soundstage appear to expand the space in the room blah blah blah. I'd also advise the phools that you can buy more pairs at any time, and stack one on top of the other, to get even more sound expansion.

Hey this is easy ... Hmmm maybe I do need to look into this business.
Title: Re: Another classic audiophoolery
Post by: tszaboo on October 21, 2021, 03:37:04 pm
"Carbon-based noise dissipation" does not work well with heavy metal music, filtering out all that white or pink noise.
What, you don't replace your power cable based on the music you listen to? Some people have no class AT ALL.
Let me guess, you also leave it on the floor and don't buy these power cable holders with spiked legs to avoid vibrations.

 ;) <-Poe's law.
Title: Re: Another classic audiophoolery
Post by: TimFox on October 21, 2021, 05:55:12 pm
The carbon base is very important:  Everyone knows that pop music was better in the 1960s than in later decades.  All US audio equipment then used Allen-Bradley carbon composition resistors, that are no longer manufactured.  Coincidence:  I think not.
[sarcasm]
Title: Re: Another classic audiophoolery
Post by: Bassman59 on October 22, 2021, 07:34:02 pm
The carbon base is very important:  Everyone knows that pop music was better in the 1960s than in later decades.  All US audio equipment then used Allen-Bradley carbon composition resistors, that are no longer manufactured.  Coincidence:  I think not.
[sarcasm]

Seems to me that these cables affect only carbon-based life forms. Your standard Horta, for example, is not amused by any of this.
Title: Re: Another classic audiophoolery
Post by: jeroen79 on October 31, 2021, 09:00:42 pm
"Carbon-based noise dissipation" does not work well with heavy metal music, filtering out all that white or pink noise.
What, you don't replace your power cable based on the music you listen to? Some people have no class AT ALL.
Let me guess, you also leave it on the floor and don't buy these power cable holders with spiked legs to avoid vibrations.

 ;) <-Poe's law.
Before buying used equipment I enquire about what music was played on it before.
An amplifier that used to play rock and roll is practically useless for classical music as all the components will have adjusted for rock.
Title: Re: Another classic audiophoolery
Post by: themadhippy on October 31, 2021, 09:28:32 pm
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An amplifier that used to play rock and roll is practically useless for classical music as all the components will have adjusted for rock.
May i offer our services, we are accredited  amplifier realignment specialists.we will take your amplifier,remove all the old audio artifacts and   replace them using custom artifacts designed around your listening tastes.All work will be carried out in an acoustically sterile atmosphere to ensure no stray artifacts are introduced during the replacement process.
Title: Re: Another classic audiophoolery
Post by: Ranayna on November 01, 2021, 10:24:21 am
I was thinking about those speaker jumpers some more, ans as far as marketing these jumpers, I'm a little surprised at the poor construction quality.
[...]

I think this is deliberate. This stuff is not coming out of an anonymous mass production factory, but is rather assembled by the proverbial "nude greybearded virgins".  :-/O
The "artisanal" look is a big part of the delusion i think.
Title: Re: Another classic audiophoolery
Post by: Deodand2014 on November 04, 2021, 10:14:33 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqtuj2f19vA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqtuj2f19vA)

I'm hoping he does do a video on audiophile fuses...
Title: Re: Another classic audiophoolery
Post by: MrMobodies on November 06, 2021, 11:21:29 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/xm7GhlW.jpg)

I wonder if whoever designed that at the time was thinking about handsets and drums.


Found this:
(https://i.imgur.com/j7eUPk5.jpg)

Looks like the person writing the article made a spelling mistake or typo.
Title: Re: Another classic audiophoolery
Post by: Cyberdragon on November 09, 2021, 02:57:41 am
 :bullshit:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqtuj2f19vA