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Re: Audiophool: £2,000.00 BNC cable
« Reply #50 on: January 16, 2019, 04:49:57 pm »
It disappoints me that comments are disabled  :-DD

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Re: Audiophool: £2,000.00 BNC cable
« Reply #51 on: January 16, 2019, 09:58:18 pm »
I see they shun comments and ratings.

I was looking at their videos and comparing the ratings and views as the CopperConn video had the ratings turned on

They turned the ratings off to start with on their first couple of videos and maybe forgot to turn them off for a while up until 2015.

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Re: Audiophool: £2,000.00 BNC cable
« Reply #52 on: January 17, 2019, 10:55:41 am »
From my local audio store:
 

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Re: Audiophool: £2,000.00 BNC cable
« Reply #53 on: January 17, 2019, 11:22:50 am »
Richer Sounds?

When I used to buy HiFi kit in there years ago we'd take up three hours to buy a cheap amp and then scam them out of some free cable  :-DD
 

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Re: Audiophool: £2,000.00 BNC cable
« Reply #54 on: January 17, 2019, 11:27:43 am »
Really curious if do a blind test on these goons with aluminium cable vs the full copper one.

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Re: Audiophool: £2,000.00 BNC cable
« Reply #55 on: January 17, 2019, 11:32:08 am »
£16.50 for 50M of cable is a pretty good deal, I'd buy that and just ignore the audiophool bollocks
 

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Re: Audiophool: £2,000.00 BNC cable
« Reply #56 on: January 17, 2019, 04:29:14 pm »
£16.50 for 50M of cable is a pretty good deal, I'd buy that and just ignore the audiophool bollocks

I don't see polarity marking on it (unless it's on the other side). Anyway, before buying I'd check gauge.

Rumors say there are Chinese cables made of non-copper metal, but coated with thin copper layer. I'd stay away from them.
 

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Re: Audiophool: £2,000.00 BNC cable
« Reply #57 on: January 17, 2019, 05:12:25 pm »
That whole hi-end audio is a lost battle. No matter what you buy as equipment it is never going to be as good as the real thing.

Real audio purists just hire the artist to play live for them, preferably renting places like Sydney opera hall as a venue, but not before flooding the place with using imported air from the Swiss Alps. Oh, and don't forget to clean your ears using hand picked cotton wound around a mahogany stick dipped in Fijian spring water.
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Re: Audiophool: £2,000.00 BNC cable
« Reply #58 on: January 20, 2019, 07:12:39 pm »
AKDL1

It's the classic - I've not seen anyone top it - it's the only such thing (obvious audiophoolery) I've seen by a "real" brand name (Denon), so I suppose it was more trolling than anything else. It has hundreds of positive and amazing (as in completely over-the-top) reviews on Amazon, including at least one by a former starship officer. It was a bargain for audiophool cables at only $500.

It's interesting that the first google hit is a "Bulk Power Cord Wire" manufacturer - at least someone knows how to do SEO "right."

Unfortunately, the infamous Amazon page for it is gone (it came out over 10 years ago), but surely all those reviews are saved in archive.org or somewhere on the web.
 

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Re: Audiophool: £2,000.00 BNC cable
« Reply #59 on: January 20, 2019, 09:16:35 pm »
Seems to me like the audiophool subculture would be a good candidate for some research to be done on them and it.

There is A LOT OF research being done in that area. Shuntayo is one of those researchers :) They are reserching ways to rob people thousands of dollars and have the victim thank them and shake their hands afterwards. If that's not cutting edge research and skill, then I don't know what is  :-//
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Re: Audiophool: £2,000.00 BNC cable
« Reply #60 on: January 21, 2019, 04:32:41 pm »


Just the thing for my Mono Pole Subminiture Flux Capacitor.
However, It's taken me nearly thirty years and my entire family fortune.
So £2,000 is totally out of the question.
 

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Re: Audiophool: £2,000.00 BNC cable
« Reply #61 on: April 30, 2019, 03:08:22 am »
AKDL1
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Unfortunately, the infamous Amazon page for it is gone (it came out over 10 years ago), but surely all those reviews are saved in archive.org or somewhere on the web.
Here we go, saved on the UK site. Fortunately, most commenters just went along with the game and make HUGELY over-the-top descriptions of this cable:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Denon-AKDL1-Dedicated-Discontinued-Manufacturer-Blue/dp/B000I1X6PM
 

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Re: Audiophool: £2,000.00 BNC cable
« Reply #62 on: April 30, 2019, 03:26:17 pm »
I didn't think expensive cables are worth it until I bought my first VNA.
Those cable crafters can do something good to the society by applying their handcraft technique and patience on making high end RF cables.
It's a shame that good workmanship is poured to unnecessary marketing snake oil things.
There is no craftmanship in that crap. Most of those are worse than good non BS cable, at least from mechanical perspective. And many of them are worse than decent cheap cable.
 
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Re: Audiophool: £2,000.00 BNC cable
« Reply #63 on: May 01, 2019, 06:33:30 pm »
Rumors say there are Chinese cables made of non-copper metal, but coated with thin copper layer. I'd stay away from them.

That's not rumor. I accidentally bought some of that crap. It copper clad aluminium. There is just enough copper to give it some colour and for the solder to stick to, but only once. It's uncanny. The wire once tinned will no longer be solderable.
I still have some of it and use it for non critical stuff.

But you know what the funny part is? I bought it as audio cable. :-DD
 

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Re: Audiophool: £2,000.00 BNC cable
« Reply #64 on: March 04, 2021, 01:52:36 pm »
Oh, but they also sell an RCA cable with the same "technology" for twice as much:
https://shunyata-uk.com/product/analog-cables/sigma-rca/

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£4,000.00


Sigma Series cables showcase technological innovation and design execution that simply does not exist elsewhere — at any price. Sigma Series cables combine meaningful parts innovations with objective measurement and an artisan’s eye for construction quality. Unlike many cost-no-object cable products that have little in the way of discernible science, Sigma Series products incorporate an array of definable technologies that sets the standard for quality and performance in the cable industry.

Price is per pair of interconnect cables.
Standard length of each cable is 1 metre.
 Please contact us for custom lengths.

All prices include VAT.


The RCA cables are sold in pairs, so the price per cable is the same.

£4,000.00 for one cable would be unreasonable, apparently £2,000.00 is okay!!  ;)

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Hilarious.
Why do people fall for this stuff?   :palm:
 

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Re: Audiophool: £2,000.00 BNC cable
« Reply #65 on: March 04, 2021, 03:27:48 pm »
Why do people fall for this stuff?   :palm:

Their customers don't have knowledge that we have. My music teacher asked me my opinion if hand-wired guitar amplifiers are any better than mass-produced amp assembled on PCBs. And that's good, he has critical thinking and didn't fall into "it's more expensive, it must be better" or "hand-made electronics should better, like custom-shop guitar vs stock guitar".

This makes me thinking where are gaps in my knowledge. It's impossible to be an expert in everything.
 

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Re: Audiophool: £2,000.00 BNC cable
« Reply #66 on: March 04, 2021, 03:48:09 pm »
While I agree that there is much "audiophoolery" going on, I would not be so generically dismissive.

I am not an easy person to impress or convince. But I have had the privilege to audition top of the top audio equipment in setups that were fully planned up to the decoration of the specifically designated room.

It was generally an overwhelming experience to listen to music tracks I was already familiar with and which had been recorded to high standards (Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon or Arne Domnerus - Jazz At The Pawnshop). The sound quality was brilliant to my fairly trained ears.

My comments are:

1) There is a high standard of audio equipment, which is not met by any modern consumer product of the iPod, iPhone, Bose, Beats Pill, etc.) These consumer products may be clever for internet based streaming of highly compressed music and Bluetooth, etc., but their sound quality is poor. You don't need to have special hearing or audio training to immediatly understand the difference. A simple test hooking a good CD vs. an iPhone to a propper amplifier and speakers is more than enough.

2) You can get pertty good and amazing audio buy buying some vintage amplifier and speaker from the 70ies, 80ies and to some extend 90ies. With 200-300 Euro you can purchase a amazing second hand setup. But if you want to go the extra step, if you have an extra room and the money, hell yes, you can go much better. It will cost 4 ot 5 figures, though.

3) Once you spent 10.000 Euro or 100.000 Euro in a dream audio setup, you might as well decorate the room properly and why not buy some good quality AND GOOD LOOKING CABLES?

It's basically the same as buying designer Nike shoes for thousands of US$, when you can buy a similar model for 100 US$.

Or why buy a 1000 Euro premium smartphone if you can buy a Xiaomi smartphone pretty much as good for 200 Euro?

What sense does it make to buy a 5000 Euro valve amplifier and connect it to 8000 Euro speakers with a 20 Euro cable?

The logic is sometimes not the best way to reason...

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Re: Audiophool: £2,000.00 BNC cable
« Reply #67 on: March 04, 2021, 04:00:48 pm »
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Hilarious.
Why do people fall for this stuff?   :palm:

And why do people post a comment two years later?
 

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Re: Audiophool: £2,000.00 BNC cable
« Reply #68 on: March 04, 2021, 07:10:13 pm »
While I agree that there is much "audiophoolery" going on, I would not be so generically dismissive.

I am not an easy person to impress or convince. But I have had the privilege to audition top of the top audio equipment in setups that were fully planned up to the decoration of the specifically designated room.

It was generally an overwhelming experience to listen to music tracks I was already familiar with and which had been recorded to high standards (Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon or Arne Domnerus - Jazz At The Pawnshop). The sound quality was brilliant to my fairly trained ears.

My comments are:

1) There is a high standard of audio equipment, which is not met by any modern consumer product of the iPod, iPhone, Bose, Beats Pill, etc.) These consumer products may be clever for internet based streaming of highly compressed music and Bluetooth, etc., but their sound quality is poor. You don't need to have special hearing or audio training to immediatly understand the difference. A simple test hooking a good CD vs. an iPhone to a propper amplifier and speakers is more than enough.

2) You can get pertty good and amazing audio buy buying some vintage amplifier and speaker from the 70ies, 80ies and to some extend 90ies. With 200-300 Euro you can purchase a amazing second hand setup. But if you want to go the extra step, if you have an extra room and the money, hell yes, you can go much better. It will cost 4 ot 5 figures, though.

3) Once you spent 10.000 Euro or 100.000 Euro in a dream audio setup, you might as well decorate the room properly and why not buy some good quality AND GOOD LOOKING CABLES?

It's basically the same as buying designer Nike shoes for thousands of US$, when you can buy a similar model for 100 US$.

Or why buy a 1000 Euro premium smartphone if you can buy a Xiaomi smartphone pretty much as good for 200 Euro?

What sense does it make to buy a 5000 Euro valve amplifier and connect it to 8000 Euro speakers with a 20 Euro cable?

The logic is sometimes not the best way to reason...

Regards,
Vitor

I agree with most of your points here, and the 3/ is what I also keep saying. This is just like any other luxury business.
If people were only looking for pure utility, luxury wouldn't sell a single product.

Now what many engineers hate with all this are the technical lies that are used to sell. As engineers, we want to tell the whole world when we see claims that are blatantly idiotic.

As to you 1/, I also agree. Debunking technical lies is good, but unfortunately all this audiophoolery debunking trend tends to make people believe any cheap crap is going to be as good as decent high-end audio device. This just isn't true, and expectations from many people have sunk rather low as we keep feeding them lossy compressed crap in cheap earphones and atrocious speakers. So there's bound to be a reasonable middle ground there.


 


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