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Bad/bloated web design
SilverSolder:
--- Quote from: MrMobodies on January 19, 2023, 07:21:09 am ---One thing I don't like with this new Wikipedia design is when I open the side menu items it shifts the contents right.
It would have been nice if they made it so it didn't do that.
Granted they don't have a fixed header and as long as it stays like that I'll happily donate sometimes.
Things that irritate me the most:
1: Fixed/nav toolbar/headers and widgets.
Trying to scroll away from them as with the rest of the page but they are still there and in the way.
2: Dimming overlays (including the ones behind dialogues, menus and search)
that hurt my eyes and obscures the contents
3: Gradients over pictures (especially ones that go way past what they are covering up)
that can give false illusions of shadows and clouds.
4: Animated Skeleton placeholder (cycling of gradients)
that slow down the page load, wastes cpu time power/battery.
5: Large and excessive use of fake loading animations, spinners and covering up/delayng content with overlays
that can cause annoyance due to the repetition.
6: Excessive flash/fade/transition animations
which makes it uncomfortable for my eyes.
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Basically all the stuff that "professional" web designers do, in order to make their work look like it took effort to make, and therefore was worth the fees!
MrMobodies:
Many years ago in mid 2015 when these things were just about to become widespread I only just started using Adblock for the first time to try hide the Google suggest lines when Google search removed the option to disable suggest. Then later that year I noticed the fixed nav toolbars (unbeknown what they were called at the time) starting to appear on Ebay like the Ebay basket purchase and basket bar then Amazon copied. I eventually found I could just add their elements adblock and that took care of it but before that I use to go absolutely mad and genuinely loose my temper going into developer tools to try and either either delete the element or set the fixed positioning to absolute. I felt I had no control over my viewing area with them dictating what I don't want to see constantly and large in the way.
Now thinking about it it reminds me of this video decades ago:
https://youtu.be/XNjigdElz4U?t=189
MADtv Bunifa Trading Spaces
3:09 in the video.
That is a bit how I felt at the time.
I could understand if the make over in the video was terrible which it wasn't.
PlainName:
--- Quote --- I felt I had no control over my viewing area with them dictating what I don't want to see constantly and large in the way
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I feel the same way (used to be about sites assuming the browser was the full width of a monitor - thankfully the web monkeys getting 4K screens stopped that). But... they could argue that you are destroying their carefully built presentation. Would you insist that a film director is forcing you to see what you don't want when he shows the full blood'n'guts cut? On the one hand you are paying to be provided with what you want, but on the other he is selling a specific film. Websites aren't providing you with a customised paid service, they are handing out something the provider is willing to share. Really, your choice is to accept it or not.
The snag with that view (for us) is that most people accept it, even if they hate it, so there is no 'constructive' feedback of what people would actually like.
madires:
Yep, it's the lost art of considering user experience, i.e. designing web pages pleasing to the human eye and easy to navigate or use. Instead we get overloaded and unintuitive pieces of web art. >:( It's about using a web page and not admiring the artful design. I would even go so far as to claim that a lot of today's web pages are inhuman.
SilverSolder:
--- Quote from: PlainName on January 19, 2023, 08:32:49 pm ---
--- Quote --- I felt I had no control over my viewing area with them dictating what I don't want to see constantly and large in the way
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I feel the same way (used to be about sites assuming the browser was the full width of a monitor - thankfully the web monkeys getting 4K screens stopped that). But... they could argue that you are destroying their carefully built presentation. Would you insist that a film director is forcing you to see what you don't want when he shows the full blood'n'guts cut? On the one hand you are paying to be provided with what you want, but on the other he is selling a specific film. Websites aren't providing you with a customised paid service, they are handing out something the provider is willing to share. Really, your choice is to accept it or not.
The snag with that view (for us) is that most people accept it, even if they hate it, so there is no 'constructive' feedback of what people would actually like.
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The "feedback" happens when enough people stop using it, or enough people use the web site feedback button (when available) to submit negative feedback.
eBay have fixed a lot of the most egregious problems over the years, I hope all my comments to the web team had some small influence along the way!
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